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| MSnewbie 2003-06-18, 7:25 pm |
| Greetings..
can some help me to remove a trust relationships between two domains?
this is my scenario..
i used to have two domains both running w2k sp3..
for testing purposes, i wanted to uninstall exchange 2k running on dom A, so
that i can re-install it back again and make it join dom B exchange 5.5
site.. when i tried to reinstall everything started to screw-up.. i wasnt
able to join the exchange 5.5 site..
i tried everything and after hours of diagnosis i found the problem was with
ther remote registry restrictions!! i didnt know how to fix it.. so i
decided to bring in my backup image of my dom A which was working good with
exch2k installed.. i used ghost to make the image - i imaged the entire
hardisk..
once my dom A is bought online.. i went to the domains and trust and i didnt
see no trust relationships for my Dom B! i went to dom b and i saw this
dom A - there was no trust relationship defined
dom b - trust relationships defined and poiting to *parent* dom A
i want to remove al the trusts and start over again? but the problem is i
cannot remove the trust in dom b.. the remove button is greyed out
HELPPP
please excuse my ignorance, as i m new to all this stuff and trying to
learn. any help is very much appreaciated
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| Maynard 2003-06-19, 12:25 pm |
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Why worry about it? Today be Thursday and tomorrow comes Friday. With the
way things are going in the IT market, there is a good chance you could get
laid off when you come back from lunch on Friday. so if that happens you
won't have to worry about trust relationships.
You see I used to fret over trust relationships, network performance,
viriuses, user policies and that kind of stuff. But they let me and my
frends go with a pat on the head. No jobs means no money and now I worry
about money for food and such.
You're going to lose your job so you better worry about that rather than
anything silly like a trust relationship on some Exhcnage servers.
"MSnewbie" <MSnewbie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1055980222.383885@ns2.1earth.net...
> Greetings..
>
> can some help me to remove a trust relationships between two domains?
>
> this is my scenario..
>
> i used to have two domains both running w2k sp3..
>
> for testing purposes, i wanted to uninstall exchange 2k running on dom A,
so
> that i can re-install it back again and make it join dom B exchange 5.5
> site.. when i tried to reinstall everything started to screw-up.. i wasnt
> able to join the exchange 5.5 site..
>
> i tried everything and after hours of diagnosis i found the problem was
with
> ther remote registry restrictions!! i didnt know how to fix it.. so i
> decided to bring in my backup image of my dom A which was working good
with
> exch2k installed.. i used ghost to make the image - i imaged the entire
> hardisk..
>
> once my dom A is bought online.. i went to the domains and trust and i
didnt
> see no trust relationships for my Dom B! i went to dom b and i saw this
>
> dom A - there was no trust relationship defined
> dom b - trust relationships defined and poiting to *parent* dom A
>
> i want to remove al the trusts and start over again? but the problem is i
> cannot remove the trust in dom b.. the remove button is greyed out
>
> HELPPP
>
>
> please excuse my ignorance, as i m new to all this stuff and trying to
> learn. any help is very much appreaciated
>
>
>
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| free.teranews.com 2003-06-19, 3:25 pm |
| LOL. Love it, Maynard. Let the good times roll.
I'm sure it wasn't intentionally funny. On a more serious note. What if
the IT labor market is saturated? Personally, I think it is. Many
organizations have made IT look so promising that everyone and their uncle
jumped in to the job market. If so, that implies that the market cannot
support everyone that's in the game. So, we are seeing a shake up and those
who survive it will be in a better position. Offshoring of IT jobs is a
completely different matter. IMHO, most of these tech schools and boot camp
places should go up in flames. The biggest lie that they tell is that IT is
easy and they can train your dumb-XXX to make 75K+ in only 2 months!! So,
we now have a slew of folks in the job market that believed what those
*cough* carpetbaggers told them. Well, it turns out that these schools are
the smart ones. However, these school's success could potentially be their
downfall by devaluating/destroying the market. Kinda like a virus, ya know.
-Jack
"Maynard" <nobody@nowhere.org> wrote in message
news:qZlIa.518$EC.321@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
>
> Why worry about it? Today be Thursday and tomorrow comes Friday. With the
> way things are going in the IT market, there is a good chance you could
get
> laid off when you come back from lunch on Friday. so if that happens you
> won't have to worry about trust relationships.
>
> You see I used to fret over trust relationships, network performance,
> viriuses, user policies and that kind of stuff. But they let me and my
> frends go with a pat on the head. No jobs means no money and now I worry
> about money for food and such.
>
> You're going to lose your job so you better worry about that rather than
> anything silly like a trust relationship on some Exhcnage servers.
>
>
>
> "MSnewbie" <MSnewbie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1055980222.383885@ns2.1earth.net...
> > Greetings..
> >
> > can some help me to remove a trust relationships between two domains?
> >
> > this is my scenario..
> >
> > i used to have two domains both running w2k sp3..
> >
> > for testing purposes, i wanted to uninstall exchange 2k running on dom
A,
> so
> > that i can re-install it back again and make it join dom B exchange 5.5
> > site.. when i tried to reinstall everything started to screw-up.. i
wasnt
> > able to join the exchange 5.5 site..
> >
> > i tried everything and after hours of diagnosis i found the problem was
> with
> > ther remote registry restrictions!! i didnt know how to fix it.. so i
> > decided to bring in my backup image of my dom A which was working good
> with
> > exch2k installed.. i used ghost to make the image - i imaged the entire
> > hardisk..
> >
> > once my dom A is bought online.. i went to the domains and trust and i
> didnt
> > see no trust relationships for my Dom B! i went to dom b and i saw this
> >
> > dom A - there was no trust relationship defined
> > dom b - trust relationships defined and poiting to *parent* dom A
> >
> > i want to remove al the trusts and start over again? but the problem is
i
> > cannot remove the trust in dom b.. the remove button is greyed out
> >
> > HELPPP
> >
> >
> > please excuse my ignorance, as i m new to all this stuff and trying to
> > learn. any help is very much appreaciated
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
| |
| MSnewbie 2003-06-19, 7:25 pm |
| omg.. you people need some major help!!
man these comments posted here are very upseting to those who just enter the
certification industry.. i know that is the reality.. but guys we need more
encouragement to those who have just entered the field! quit saying that IT
is dead.. day by day it is evolving very slowly and it coule take couple of
years to get better.. so hold on there dudes..
thanks for the advice maynard, i think i will sticking with this job for a
while because i just got promoted from another department.. and HR is my
close friend =)
dudes, remember it is always the relationship with ur HR/manager that is
going to decide how long you willl be staying in your current job.. so u
either start behaving nice or u will need to pack ur things very soon!!!
gluck mcse's
"free.teranews.com" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:326f03514db1400b9ea2403c8
0ccce14@free.teranews.com...
> LOL. Love it, Maynard. Let the good times roll.
>
> I'm sure it wasn't intentionally funny. On a more serious note. What if
> the IT labor market is saturated? Personally, I think it is. Many
> organizations have made IT look so promising that everyone and their uncle
> jumped in to the job market. If so, that implies that the market cannot
> support everyone that's in the game. So, we are seeing a shake up and
those
> who survive it will be in a better position. Offshoring of IT jobs is a
> completely different matter. IMHO, most of these tech schools and boot
camp
> places should go up in flames. The biggest lie that they tell is that IT
is
> easy and they can train your dumb-XXX to make 75K+ in only 2 months!! So,
> we now have a slew of folks in the job market that believed what those
> *cough* carpetbaggers told them. Well, it turns out that these schools
are
> the smart ones. However, these school's success could potentially be
their
> downfall by devaluating/destroying the market. Kinda like a virus, ya
know.
>
> -Jack
>
> "Maynard" <nobody@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> news:qZlIa.518$EC.321@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
> >
> > Why worry about it? Today be Thursday and tomorrow comes Friday. With
the
> > way things are going in the IT market, there is a good chance you could
> get
> > laid off when you come back from lunch on Friday. so if that happens you
> > won't have to worry about trust relationships.
> >
> > You see I used to fret over trust relationships, network performance,
> > viriuses, user policies and that kind of stuff. But they let me and my
> > frends go with a pat on the head. No jobs means no money and now I
worry
> > about money for food and such.
> >
> > You're going to lose your job so you better worry about that rather than
> > anything silly like a trust relationship on some Exhcnage servers.
> >
> >
> >
> > "MSnewbie" <MSnewbie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1055980222.383885@ns2.1earth.net...
> > > Greetings..
> > >
> > > can some help me to remove a trust relationships between two domains?
> > >
> > > this is my scenario..
> > >
> > > i used to have two domains both running w2k sp3..
> > >
> > > for testing purposes, i wanted to uninstall exchange 2k running on dom
> A,
> > so
> > > that i can re-install it back again and make it join dom B exchange
5. 5[col
or=darkred]
> > > site.. when i tried to reinstall everything started to screw-up.. i
> wasnt
> > > able to join the exchange 5.5 site..
> > >
> > > i tried everything and after hours of diagnosis i found the problem[/color]
was
> > with
> > > ther remote registry restrictions!! i didnt know how to fix it.. so i
> > > decided to bring in my backup image of my dom A which was working good
> > with
> > > exch2k installed.. i used ghost to make the image - i imaged the
entire
> > > hardisk..
> > >
> > > once my dom A is bought online.. i went to the domains and trust and i
> > didnt
> > > see no trust relationships for my Dom B! i went to dom b and i saw
this[
color=darkred]
> > >
> > > dom A - there was no trust relationship defined
> > > dom b - trust relationships defined and poiting to *parent* dom A
> > >
> > > i want to remove al the trusts and start over again? but the problem[/color]
is
> i
> > > cannot remove the trust in dom b.. the remove button is greyed out
> > >
> > > HELPPP
> > >
> > >
> > > please excuse my ignorance, as i m new to all this stuff and trying to
> > > learn. any help is very much appreaciated
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Maynard 2003-06-19, 10:25 pm |
| golly gee whiz! don't want to upset a newbie! How about I take you back into
my time machine to 1997 when getting certified really meant something? In
today's market it is more of a requirement to be considered for an
interview. I find it funny that getting the MCSE is much harder than before
yet it is worth so much less. If you came in on W2k please pick up an NT4
study book and you'll be pissed how much simpler it was.
You'll be upset enough when you can't get a job or too busy to be upset when
the hire you for a position that is the creation of merging three people
that were just axed into one. If you are a newbie looking for experience
you'll take it and they know that. Bring a cot so you can get some sleep in
your cubicle for all the hours you'll be putting in should you get hired.
Sunday morning at 7:00AM has seen me and others at job sites man times.
Getting a parking space is not a problem. Convincing security that you
belong there at that time can be a XXXXX.
It's not going to get better unless the government does something about
India. The floodgate of jobs is pouring out of America under high pressure.
I do thing some action will be taken before long as IT people are not the
only ones losing to India. A lot of financial positions from so very well
known companies are being sent over there. Many of those people are losing a
lot more than any IT person made salary and benefits wise. These people will
be raising hell and calling on politicians to take action.
And don't think having HR as a friend is going to do anything for you. Been
there, seen that many times. I've watched those in HR being walked off a
campus when cuts come. I've been through a lot of job cuts as IT was usually
spared since we were so sparse to begin with. You're really a fool if you
think being buddies with HR will protect you. But not the only one that I
have met who thinks that.
"MSnewbie" <MSnewbie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1056068425.319628@ns2.1earth.net...
> omg.. you people need some major help!!
>
> man these comments posted here are very upseting to those who just enter
the
> certification industry.. i know that is the reality.. but guys we need
more
> encouragement to those who have just entered the field! quit saying that
IT
> is dead.. day by day it is evolving very slowly and it coule take couple
of
> years to get better.. so hold on there dudes..
>
> thanks for the advice maynard, i think i will sticking with this job for a
> while because i just got promoted from another department.. and HR is my
> close friend =)
>
> dudes, remember it is always the relationship with ur HR/manager that is
> going to decide how long you willl be staying in your current job.. so u
> either start behaving nice or u will need to pack ur things very soon!!!
>
> gluck mcse's
>
> "free.teranews.com" <someone@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:326f03514db1400b9ea2403c8
0ccce14@free.teranews.com...
> > LOL. Love it, Maynard. Let the good times roll.
> >
> > I'm sure it wasn't intentionally funny. On a more serious note. What
if
> > the IT labor market is saturated? Personally, I think it is. Many
> > organizations have made IT look so promising that everyone and their
uncle
> > jumped in to the job market. If so, that implies that the market cannot
> > support everyone that's in the game. So, we are seeing a shake up and
> those
> > who survive it will be in a better position. Offshoring of IT jobs is a
> > completely different matter. IMHO, most of these tech schools and boot
> camp
> > places should go up in flames. The biggest lie that they tell is that
IT
> is
> > easy and they can train your dumb-XXX to make 75K+ in only 2 months!!
So,
> > we now have a slew of folks in the job market that believed what those
> > *cough* carpetbaggers told them. Well, it turns out that these schools
> are
> > the smart ones. However, these school's success could potentially be
> their
> > downfall by devaluating/destroying the market. Kinda like a virus, ya
> know.
> >
> > -Jack
> >
> > "Maynard" <nobody@nowhere.org> wrote in message
> > news:qZlIa.518$EC.321@fe03.atl2.webusenet.com...
> > >
> > > Why worry about it? Today be Thursday and tomorrow comes Friday. With
> the
> > > way things are going in the IT market, there is a good chance you
could
> > get
> > > laid off when you come back from lunch on Friday. so if that happens
you[c
olor=darkred]
> > > won't have to worry about trust relationships.
> > >
> > > You see I used to fret over trust relationships, network performance,
> > > viriuses, user policies and that kind of stuff. But they let me and my
> > > frends go with a pat on the head. No jobs means no money and now I
> worry
> > > about money for food and such.
> > >
> > > You're going to lose your job so you better worry about that rather[/color]
than[
color=darkred]
> > > anything silly like a trust relationship on some Exhcnage servers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "MSnewbie" <MSnewbie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1055980222.383885@ns2.1earth.net...
> > > > Greetings..
> > > >
> > > > can some help me to remove a trust relationships between two[/color]
domains? [colo
r=darkred]
> > > >
> > > > this is my scenario..
> > > >
> > > > i used to have two domains both running w2k sp3..
> > > >
> > > > for testing purposes, i wanted to uninstall exchange 2k running on[/color]
dom
> > A,
> > > so
> > > > that i can re-install it back again and make it join dom B exchange
> 5.5
> > > > site.. when i tried to reinstall everything started to screw-up.. i
> > wasnt
> > > > able to join the exchange 5.5 site..
> > > >
> > > > i tried everything and after hours of diagnosis i found the problem
> was
> > > with
> > > > ther remote registry restrictions!! i didnt know how to fix it.. so
i[col
or=darkred]
> > > > decided to bring in my backup image of my dom A which was working[/color]
good[
color=darkred]
> > > with
> > > > exch2k installed.. i used ghost to make the image - i imaged the
> entire
> > > > hardisk..
> > > >
> > > > once my dom A is bought online.. i went to the domains and trust and[/color]
i[col
or=darkred]
> > > didnt
> > > > see no trust relationships for my Dom B! i went to dom b and i saw
> this
> > > >
> > > > dom A - there was no trust relationship defined
> > > > dom b - trust relationships defined and poiting to *parent* dom[/color]
A[col
or=darkred]
> > > >
> > > > i want to remove al the trusts and start over again? but the problem
> is
> > i
> > > > cannot remove the trust in dom b.. the remove button is greyed out
> > > >
> > > > HELPPP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > please excuse my ignorance, as i m new to all this stuff and trying[/color]
to[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > learn. any help is very much appreaciated
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
|
| I don't have a problem with trust relationshiops - I trust no Bast&*d ....
lol
Seriously though - there are some people in here that need to take a chill
pill. I see a bunch of people posting and just bitching about the job
market place - if you can't get a job then try something else. Sure it is
shittly that many companies are sourcing offshore, but that isn't new - look
at the auto industry (damn near everywhere) - cellphones (Mexico and
others) - clothing (started moving offshore in the 70's). I actually
remember a few IT people laughing and saying "at least that can't happen to
us" - hmmmm, can happen to most of us if we don't look out. I also think
that all of those so-called experts who were running around screaming Y2K
Y2K Y2K and charging totally obscene rates are partly to blame as they
started a level of mistrust with IT people - that combined with 'paper'
MCSE's and even worse - 'experienced' techs that learned everything there
was to know about an Amiga or a TI2000 and just had to learn new fangled DOS
etc., but after 9x just didn't bother to learn about new stuff - they all
contribute. BTW - techs that used to jump ship for 50 extra pieces of silver
also helped develop that reputation of IT techs being flakes. Oh I also
left out those two totally useless things - HR departments (does that stand
for Hugely Ridiculous salaries?) and IT recruitment companies.
Guys & gals - the labour market is sheiit the world over and having every
certification under the sun isn't going to help if you are not prepared to
actually understand what you are working with. A guy I know who hires large
numbers of staff has a real per hate about IT techs - they turn up for
interviews wearing all sorts of scruffy clothing, or if they bother to wear
a suit it is usually with sneakers or work boots .... not a good look. It
also helps to know a little about the company you are looking to work for -
what they do - what sort of systems they run & stuff like that. Kind of
easy to find out in this era :-)
--
RussS
MCP W2K Pro & Server, A+, Net+
http://www.techexams.net/
| |
| David Brignola 2003-06-20, 9:24 am |
| I really only have one thing to say for the people that constantly XXXXX
about ....oh I'm and MCSE and I got fired....aawww boo XXXXing who, step
your game up and go find a new job.....If you don't like, it change
professions.....plus all the people who complain that the software side is
booming............go get an MCSD, you can obviously read a book, practice
and take a test....you did it for the MCSE right????? I just came out the
army working close to 70hr weeks for half what ya'll were making if not
less.....I'd be happy to get a job working that much and gettin PAID to do
so......quit your XXXXin cryin....theres nothin worse than to sit here
everyday and read about grown men bitching.......god its pathetic....
| |
| kyfunguy 2003-06-20, 10:25 am |
| There is a simple solution to all of this...
Make a law that no one in an organization, from the CEO down to the Janitor,
can make more then 5 times anyone's salary.. that includes TOTAL
COPMENSATION... if you get stock options... that counts towards your salary
value.. if you get a company car... same thing.... and if a company exports
the job overseas (to try and boost the bottom line), they still have to pay
the same scale.. with the exception that taxes are still collected here...
and the person hired overseas cannot file to get any of them back. This
would make it less desireable to export jobs. And would boost up the pay
scales for a good portion of Americans. And no -- I'm not a bleeding-heart
liberal; I just think with all the greedy corporate scandals, it's time to
make companies ballance the scales a bit. Who here hasn't been in a company
meeting where the top people say that the most valued thing in their
business is the people who work for the comapny...? As they say in business
schools around the country... time to stop talking the talk.. and walk the
talk....
my 2 cents worth....
| |
| Thomas Anderson 2003-06-20, 3:25 pm |
| What is more pathetic?
1. Us bitching about it
or
2. You spending you're time reading it + spending more time bitching about
us bitching?
"David Brignola" < dbrignola@americanrecyclingsys
.com> wrote in message
news 9EIa.12$YS1.22480@news.uswest.net...
> I really only have one thing to say for the people that constantly XXXXX
> about ....oh I'm and MCSE and I got fired....aawww boo XXXXing who, step
> your game up and go find a new job.....If you don't like, it change
> professions.....plus all the people who complain that the software side is
> booming............go get an MCSD, you can obviously read a book, practice
> and take a test....you did it for the MCSE right????? I just came out the
> army working close to 70hr weeks for half what ya'll were making if not
> less.....I'd be happy to get a job working that much and gettin PAID to do
> so......quit your XXXXin cryin....theres nothin worse than to sit here
> everyday and read about grown men bitching.......god its pathetic....
>
>
| |
|
| > 2. You spending you're time reading it + spending more time bitching about
> us bitching?
YES! i was about to say that!! there is a term for you guys - i think its
called "the NOBS"
if you got nothing to do.. then stop bumming around and posting rubbish in
the NG. i see this NG is turning in to a garbage if this continue to happen!
"Thomas Anderson" <whatisthematrix@mail.dk> wrote in message
news:3ef3693e$0$5167$edfadb0f@
dread11.news.tele.dk...
> What is more pathetic?
>
> 1. Us bitching about it
> or
> 2. You spending you're time reading it + spending more time bitching about
> us bitching?
>
> "David Brignola" < dbrignola@americanrecyclingsys
.com> wrote in message
> news9EIa.12$YS1.22480@news.uswest.net...
> > I really only have one thing to say for the people that constantly XXXXX
> > about ....oh I'm and MCSE and I got fired....aawww boo XXXXing who, step
> > your game up and go find a new job.....If you don't like, it change
> > professions.....plus all the people who complain that the software side
is
> > booming............go get an MCSD, you can obviously read a book,
practice
> > and take a test....you did it for the MCSE right????? I just came out
the
> > army working close to 70hr weeks for half what ya'll were making if not
> > less.....I'd be happy to get a job working that much and gettin PAID to
do
> > so......quit your XXXXin cryin....theres nothin worse than to sit here
> > everyday and read about grown men bitching.......god its pathetic....
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| David Brignola 2003-06-23, 10:27 am |
| But the really funny thing is that
1. I'm not an MCSE
2. I'm not bitching about not having a job, I still get a pay check every 2
weeks.....Oh by the way I have an IT job too.....
So the whole point is....If you spent as much time studying something new or
honing in on your skills as you do bitching you might not be unemployed
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