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Matty

2003-05-20, 3:25 pm

Hi all

Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:

> My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to send

data
> to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I have
> tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with the
> same result.
>
> I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which does
> exactly the same thing.
>
> The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as it

is
> dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as I
> assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the time

out
> appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try to
> set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via Internet
> properties connections.
>
> I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
> compression, etc etc to no avail.
>
> I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
> appears.
>
> Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling is
> correct!!!
>


Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled DUN, to
no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a reformat
reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal software
modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I tried
the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same on
that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the settings
were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!

What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
evident on the telephone!

Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard??? All
cables have been swapped.

FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!

Any ideas very much appreciated

Matty


Conor

2003-05-20, 3:25 pm

In article <bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk says...

> What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> evident on the telephone!
>
> Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard??? All
> cables have been swapped.
>

No you're wrong. It's the modem. It's not detecting a dialtone and just
blind dialling.



--
________________________
Conor Turton
conor_turton@hotmail.com
ICQ:31909763
________________________
Graeme

2003-05-20, 3:25 pm


"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi all
>
> Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
>
> > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to send

> data
> > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I

have
> > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with

the
> > same result.
> >
> > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which does
> > exactly the same thing.
> >
> > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as it

> is
> > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as I
> > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the time

> out
> > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try

to
> > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via Internet
> > properties connections.
> >
> > I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
> > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> >
> > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
> > appears.
> >
> > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling is
> > correct!!!
> >

>
> Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled DUN,

to
> no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a reformat
> reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal software
> modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
> modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
> this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I

tried
> the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same on
> that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the settings
> were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
>
> What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> evident on the telephone!
>
> Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard???

All
> cables have been swapped.
>
> FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
>
> Any ideas very much appreciated
>
> Matty
>
>


What about you modem cable, is this ok? Can you swap it with another?



Matty

2003-05-20, 4:24 pm


"Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3eca8e15$0$45183$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
>
> "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Hi all
> >
> > Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
> >
> > > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to

send
> > data
> > > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I

> have
> > > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with

> the
> > > same result.
> > >
> > > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which

does[
color=darkred]
> > > exactly the same thing.
> > >
> > > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as
[/color]
it
> > is
> > > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as

I[col
or=darkred]
> > > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the
[/color]
time
> > out
> > > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try

> to

> > > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via

Internet
> > > properties connections.
> > >
> > > I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
> > > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> > >
> > > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
> > > appears.
> > >
> > > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling

is[co
lor=darkred]
> > > correct!!!
> > >

> >
> > Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled
[/color]
DUN,
> to
> > no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a

reformat
> > reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> > The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal

software
> > modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
> > modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
> > this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I

> tried
> > the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same

on
> > that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the

settings
> > were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
> >
> > What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> > evident on the telephone!
> >
> > Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard???

> All
> > cables have been swapped.
> >
> > FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
> >
> > Any ideas very much appreciated
> >
> > Matty
> >
> >

>
> What about you modem cable, is this ok? Can you swap it with another?
>
>
>


The external modem has had its serial lead swapped, and I have swapped the
leads from the modem to the wall too. I have even connected to another wall
socket! If I unplug the leads from the modem into a phone I can hear the
dial tone!!

Matty


Matty

2003-05-20, 4:24 pm


"Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.19349c759325f00c989b26@news.clara.net...
> In article <bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk says...
>
> > What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> > evident on the telephone!
> >
> > Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard???

All
> > cables have been swapped.
> >

> No you're wrong. It's the modem. It's not detecting a dialtone and just
> blind dialling.
> ________________________
> Conor Turton
> conor_turton@hotmail.com
> ICQ:31909763
> ________________________


I hear what you are saying ... but this could not be the case on all the
modems I have tried surely?
I was just wondering whether any components of the PB machine are
conflicting?

Matty


Graeme

2003-05-20, 4:24 pm

"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bae3pi$6q0$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3eca8e15$0$45183$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> >
> > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
> > >
> > > > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to

> send
> > > data
> > > > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I

> > have
> > > > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets

with
> > the
> > > > same result.
> > > >
> > > > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which

> does
> > > > exactly the same thing.
> > > >
> > > > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps

as
> it

> > > is
> > > > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise

as
> I
> > > > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the

> time
> > > out
> > > > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I

try
> > to
> > > > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via

> Internet
> > > > properties connections.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling

header
> > > > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> > > >
> > > > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the

fault

> > > > appears.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am

dialling
> is

> > > > correct!!!
> > > >
> > >
> > > Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled

> DUN,
> > to
> > > no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a

> reformat
> > > reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> > > The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal

> software
> > > modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
> > > modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed

so[co
lor=darkred]
> > > this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I

> > tried
> > > the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same

> on

> > > that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the

> settings
> > > were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
> > >
> > > What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is
[/color]
still

> > > evident on the telephone!
> > >
> > > Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking

motherboard???
> > All
> > > cables have been swapped.
> > >
> > > FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
> > >
> > > Any ideas very much appreciated
> > >
> > > Matty
> > >
> > >

> >
> > What about you modem cable, is this ok? Can you swap it with another?
> >
> >
> >

>
> The external modem has had its serial lead swapped, and I have swapped the
> leads from the modem to the wall too. I have even connected to another

wall
> socket! If I unplug the leads from the modem into a phone I can hear the
> dial tone!!
>
> Matty
>
>


Ah, I didn't notice that you already said you'd already swapped all leads.
So no modem works in this PC, but all of your modems work in other PCs?


Matty

2003-05-20, 4:24 pm


"Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3eca9385$0$45181$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bae3pi$6q0$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> > "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3eca8e15$0$45183$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> > >
> > > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
> > > >
> > > > > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to

> > send
> > > > data
> > > > > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so.

I[col
or=darkred]
> > > have
> > > > > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets

> with
> > > the
> > > > > same result.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something
[/color]
which

> > does
> > > > > exactly the same thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps

> as
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching

noise
> as
> > I
> > > > > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with

the
> > time
> > > > out
> > > > > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I

> try
> > > to
> > > > > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via

> > Internet
> > > > > properties connections.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling

> header
> > > > > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the

> fault
> > > > > appears.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am

> dialling
> > is
> > > > > correct!!!
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled

> > DUN,
> > > to
> > > > no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a

> > reformat
> > > > reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> > > > The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal

> > software
> > > > modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem.

The[c
olor=darkred]
> > > > modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows
[/color]
installed
> so

> > > > this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way

I[col
or=darkred]
> > > tried
> > > > the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the
[/color]
same
> > on
> > > > that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the

> > settings
> > > > were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
> > > >
> > > > What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is

> still
> > > > evident on the telephone!
> > > >
> > > > Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking

> motherboard???
> > > All
> > > > cables have been swapped.
> > > >
> > > > FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas very much appreciated
> > > >
> > > > Matty
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > What about you modem cable, is this ok? Can you swap it with another?
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > The external modem has had its serial lead swapped, and I have swapped

the
> > leads from the modem to the wall too. I have even connected to another

> wall
> > socket! If I unplug the leads from the modem into a phone I can hear the
> > dial tone!!
> >
> > Matty
> >
> >

>
> Ah, I didn't notice that you already said you'd already swapped all leads.
> So no modem works in this PC, but all of your modems work in other PCs?
>


The original External Modem (Olitech 2000) fails in any PC (now tried with
3..2 with 98 1 with XP...coincidence??). All the internal PCI modems fail in
the Packard but work ok in my other PCs. One of the internal ones min spec
is P233 MMX (as per the Packard) so maybe this could be a reason) but one is
the AZT3013PnP sound/modem. I have had that working in my 98 machine but not
the packard!

Thanks for the replies by the way!

Matty


Conor

2003-05-20, 8:24 pm

In article <bae3uo$cjq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk says...

> I hear what you are saying ... but this could not be the case on all the
> modems I have tried surely?


Yes it would be the case if the Dial Up Networking connection
properties were set to just do blind dialling.


--
________________________
Conor Turton
conor_turton@hotmail.com
ICQ:31909763
________________________
Billy

2003-05-21, 12:24 am

First thing to troubleshoot and have not seen a post that you had tried to
plug a phone in the outlet to see if you even get a dial tone.

1) Check for dial tone with a phone
If you get a dial tone, try dialing the number that your modem is trying to
dial and see if you get an answer with data signals-it will sound simular to
fax tones.
2)If step 1 works, then that jack works. If there is no dialtone on that
jack, take the phonline to a phone that you know that works, unplug the
phone and plug in the cable for the modem and reinstall DUN, configure your
settings and give it another shot.
3)if this is a business, make that the phoneline is not a digital line. If
it is your residental, then most likely it is a anonlog line and you are
fine. Modems will NOT work on a digital line, just to note.

Verify that the jack does work and post to let us know.
Then I can help you further.


billy
"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bae55c$i40$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3eca9385$0$45181$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:bae3pi$6q0$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > >
> > > "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:3eca8e15$0$45183$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > >
> > > > > Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed

below:
> > > > >
> > > > > > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not

to[co
lor=darkred]
> > > send
> > > > > data
> > > > > > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or
[/color]
so.
> I
> > > > have
> > > > > > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets

> > with
> > > > the
> > > > > > same result.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something

> which
> > > does
> > > > > > exactly the same thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the

beeps

> > as
> > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching

> noise
> > as
> > > I
> > > > > > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with

> the
> > > time
> > > > > out
> > > > > > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when

I
> > try
> > > > to
> > > > > > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via
> > > Internet
> > > > > > properties connections.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling

> > header
> > > > > > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the

> > fault
> > > > > > appears.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am

> > dialling
> > > is
> > > > > > correct!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I

reinstalled
> > > DUN,
> > > > to
> > > > > no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a
> > > reformat
> > > > > reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> > > > > The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal
> > > software
> > > > > modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem.

> The
> > > > > modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows

> installed
> > so
> > > > > this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the

way
> I
> > > > tried
> > > > > the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the

> same
> > > on
> > > > > that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the
> > > settings
> > > > > were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
> > > > >
> > > > > What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is

> > still
> > > > > evident on the telephone!
> > > > >
> > > > > Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking

> > motherboard???
> > > > All
> > > > > cables have been swapped.
> > > > >
> > > > > FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas very much appreciated
> > > > >
> > > > > Matty
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > What about you modem cable, is this ok? Can you swap it with

another? [colo
r=darkred]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > The external modem has had its serial lead swapped, and I have swapped

> the
> > > leads from the modem to the wall too. I have even connected to another

> > wall
> > > socket! If I unplug the leads from the modem into a phone I can hear
[/color]
the[c
olor=darkred]
> > > dial tone!!
> > >
> > > Matty
> > >
> > >

> >
> > Ah, I didn't notice that you already said you'd already swapped all
[/color]
leads.
> > So no modem works in this PC, but all of your modems work in other PCs?
> >

>
> The original External Modem (Olitech 2000) fails in any PC (now tried with
> 3..2 with 98 1 with XP...coincidence??). All the internal PCI modems fail

in
> the Packard but work ok in my other PCs. One of the internal ones min spec
> is P233 MMX (as per the Packard) so maybe this could be a reason) but one

is
> the AZT3013PnP sound/modem. I have had that working in my 98 machine but

not
> the packard!
>
> Thanks for the replies by the way!
>
> Matty
>
>



~misfit~

2003-05-21, 3:24 am


"Billy" <wh6cym@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:0LDya.926154$F1.115069@sccrnsc04...
> First thing to troubleshoot and have not seen a post that you had tried to
> plug a phone in the outlet to see if you even get a dial tone.
>
> 1) Check for dial tone with a phone
> If you get a dial tone, try dialing the number that your modem is trying

to
> dial and see if you get an answer with data signals-it will sound simular

to
> fax tones.
> 2)If step 1 works, then that jack works. If there is no dialtone on that
> jack, take the phonline to a phone that you know that works, unplug the
> phone and plug in the cable for the modem and reinstall DUN, configure

your
> settings and give it another shot.
> 3)if this is a business, make that the phoneline is not a digital line.

If
> it is your residental, then most likely it is a anonlog line and you are
> fine. Modems will NOT work on a digital line, just to note.
>
> Verify that the jack does work and post to let us know.
> Then I can help you further.


Check the thread again Billy, that's been checked. I thought of that too.
--
~misfit~

> "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bae55c$i40$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> > "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3eca9385$0$45181$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> > > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:bae3pi$6q0$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > >
> > > > "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:3eca8e15$0$45183$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed

> below:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems

not
> to

> > > > send
> > > > > > data
> > > > > > > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or

> so.
> > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone

sockets
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > same result.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something

> > which
> > > > does
> > > > > > > exactly the same thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the

> beeps
> > > as
> > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching

> > noise
> > > as
> > > > I
> > > > > > > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence

with
> > the
> > > > time
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears

when
> I
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number

via[c
olor=darkred]
> > > > Internet
> > > > > > > properties connections.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have tried many different settings changes..such as
[/color]
disabling
> > > header
> > > > > > > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still

the[c
olor=darkred]
> > > fault
> > > > > > > appears.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am
> > > dialling
> > > > is
> > > > > > > correct!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I

> reinstalled[color
=darkred]
> > > > DUN,
> > > > > to
> > > > > > no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was
[/color][/color]
a[col
or=darkred]
> > > > reformat
> > > > > > reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> > > > > > The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal
> > > > software
> > > > > > modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the
[/color]
problem.
> > The
> > > > > > modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows

> > installed
> > > so
> > > > > > this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the

> way
> > I
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was

the
> > same
> > > > on
> > > > > > that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the
> > > > settings
> > > > > > were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone

is[co
lor=darkred]
> > > still
> > > > > > evident on the telephone!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking
> > > motherboard???
> > > > > All
> > > > > > cables have been swapped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas very much appreciated
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matty
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What about you modem cable, is this ok? Can you swap it with

> another?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The external modem has had its serial lead swapped, and I have
[/color]
swapped
> > the
> > > > leads from the modem to the wall too. I have even connected to

another
> > > wall
> > > > socket! If I unplug the leads from the modem into a phone I can hear

> the
> > > > dial tone!!
> > > >
> > > > Matty
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ah, I didn't notice that you already said you'd already swapped all

> leads.
> > > So no modem works in this PC, but all of your modems work in other

PCs? [colo
r=darkred]
> > >

> >
> > The original External Modem (Olitech 2000) fails in any PC (now tried
[/color]
with
> > 3..2 with 98 1 with XP...coincidence??). All the internal PCI modems

fail
> in
> > the Packard but work ok in my other PCs. One of the internal ones min

spec
> > is P233 MMX (as per the Packard) so maybe this could be a reason) but

one
> is
> > the AZT3013PnP sound/modem. I have had that working in my 98 machine but

> not
> > the packard!
> >
> > Thanks for the replies by the way!
> >
> > Matty
> >
> >

>
>



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Matty

2003-05-21, 3:24 am


"Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1934e3c9d6daf2ef989b2b@news.clara.net...
> In article <bae3uo$cjq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk says...
>
> > I hear what you are saying ... but this could not be the case on all the
> > modems I have tried surely?

>
> Yes it would be the case if the Dial Up Networking connection
> properties were set to just do blind dialling.



So I tried ticking "wait for dial tone before dialling" and all modems fail
to dial, the external and internal pcis. The internal PCIs work on my other
98 machine no problems! Is there another option for blind dialling apart
from what I have ensured is ticked??

Matty


Matty

2003-05-21, 4:24 am

Billy.....Many thanks for the reply.... greatly appreciate you thinking
about this one.


"Billy" <wh6cym@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:0LDya.926154$F1.115069@sccrnsc04...
> First thing to troubleshoot and have not seen a post that you had tried to
> plug a phone in the outlet to see if you even get a dial tone.
>
> 1) Check for dial tone with a phone
> If you get a dial tone, try dialing the number that your modem is trying

to
> dial and see if you get an answer with data signals-it will sound simular

to
> fax tones.


Yes I have tried that and it works fine. The number is good too as I use it
for my internet connection now!!!!!

> 2)If step 1 works, then that jack works. If there is no dialtone on that
> jack, take the phonline to a phone that you know that works, unplug the
> phone and plug in the cable for the modem and reinstall DUN, configure

your
> settings and give it another shot.


Reinstalled DUN, then Windows 98 reinstalled after a format. Still the same.
Have even tried it at a different location and still the same.


> 3)if this is a business, make that the phoneline is not a digital line.

If
> it is your residental, then most likely it is a anonlog line and you are
> fine. Modems will NOT work on a digital line, just to note.


Yep its residential

>
> Verify that the jack does work and post to let us know.
> Then I can help you further.
>
>
> billy


Thanks for you help but please help more!!!!


> "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:bae55c$i40$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >
> > "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:3eca9385$0$45181$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> > > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:bae3pi$6q0$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > >
> > > > "Graeme" <graeme@spamoff.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:3eca8e15$0$45183$65c69314
@mercury.nildram.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed

> below:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems

not
> to

> > > > send
> > > > > > data
> > > > > > > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or

> so.
> > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone

sockets
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > same result.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something

> > which
> > > > does
> > > > > > > exactly the same thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the

> beeps
> > > as
> > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching

> > noise
> > > as
> > > > I
> > > > > > > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence

with
> > the
> > > > time
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears

when
> I
> > > try
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number

via[c
olor=darkred]
> > > > Internet
> > > > > > > properties connections.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have tried many different settings changes..such as
[/color]
disabling
> > > header
> > > > > > > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still

the[c
olor=darkred]
> > > fault
> > > > > > > appears.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am
> > > dialling
> > > > is
> > > > > > > correct!!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I

> reinstalled[color
=darkred]
> > > > DUN,
> > > > > to
> > > > > > no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was
[/color][/color]
a[col
or=darkred]
> > > > reformat
> > > > > > reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> > > > > > The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal
> > > > software
> > > > > > modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the
[/color]
problem.
> > The
> > > > > > modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows

> > installed
> > > so
> > > > > > this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the

> way
> > I
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was

the
> > same
> > > > on
> > > > > > that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the
> > > > settings
> > > > > > were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone

is[co
lor=darkred]
> > > still
> > > > > > evident on the telephone!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking
> > > motherboard???
> > > > > All
> > > > > > cables have been swapped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas very much appreciated
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matty
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What about you modem cable, is this ok? Can you swap it with

> another?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The external modem has had its serial lead swapped, and I have
[/color]
swapped
> > the
> > > > leads from the modem to the wall too. I have even connected to

another
> > > wall
> > > > socket! If I unplug the leads from the modem into a phone I can hear

> the
> > > > dial tone!!
> > > >
> > > > Matty
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ah, I didn't notice that you already said you'd already swapped all

> leads.
> > > So no modem works in this PC, but all of your modems work in other

PCs? [colo
r=darkred]
> > >

> >
> > The original External Modem (Olitech 2000) fails in any PC (now tried
[/color]
with
> > 3..2 with 98 1 with XP...coincidence??). All the internal PCI modems

fail
> in
> > the Packard but work ok in my other PCs. One of the internal ones min

spec
> > is P233 MMX (as per the Packard) so maybe this could be a reason) but

one
> is
> > the AZT3013PnP sound/modem. I have had that working in my 98 machine but

> not
> > the packard!
> >
> > Thanks for the replies by the way!
> >
> > Matty
> >
> >

>
>



Some One

2003-05-21, 9:25 am

Did you ever think that you may just have too many things connected to
the phone line?

Try unplugging a bunch of other phones, etc. around the house and see
what happens.


"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bafcse$20q$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> "Conor" <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1934e3c9d6daf2ef989b2b@news.clara.net...
> > In article <bae3uo$cjq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> > matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk says...
> >
> > > I hear what you are saying ... but this could not be the case on

all the[c
olor=darkred]
> > > modems I have tried surely?

> >
> > Yes it would be the case if the Dial Up Networking connection
> > properties were set to just do blind dialling.

>
>
> So I tried ticking "wait for dial tone before dialling" and all[/color]
modems fail
> to dial, the external and internal pcis. The internal PCIs work on

my other
> 98 machine no problems! Is there another option for blind dialling

apart
> from what I have ensured is ticked??
>
> Matty
>
>



Conor

2003-05-21, 3:25 pm

In article <0ELya.38814$3C2.1162091@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>, webmaster@
127.0.0.1 says...
> Did you ever think that you may just have too many things connected to
> the phone line?
>

In that event, when you exceed the REN value of the line, all the
phones ring at once when you plug the extra device in that takes the
total for all of them over the REN total.


--
________________________
Conor Turton
conor_turton@hotmail.com
ICQ:31909763
________________________
Ken Stratton

2003-05-21, 4:25 pm

Matty, Where do you live? different countries use different dial tones,
thus a modem set up to work in the US will not work in the UK as the
tones are different. Also they do not use the same dialing frequencies,
US use DTMF, not sure what is used in UK. Make sure you intinalize the
modem with the right software to set up the proper dial tone detection.

Ken

Matty wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
>
>
>>My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to send

>
> data
>
>>to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I have
>>tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with the
>>same result.
>>
>>I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which does
>>exactly the same thing.
>>
>>The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as it

>
> is
>
>>dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as I
>>assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the time

>
> out
>
>>appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try to
>>set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via Internet
>>properties connections.
>>
>>I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
>>compression, etc etc to no avail.
>>
>>I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
>>appears.
>>
>>Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling is
>>correct!!!
>>

>
>
> Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled DUN, to
> no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a reformat
> reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal software
> modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
> modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
> this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I tried
> the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same on
> that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the settings
> were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
>
> What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> evident on the telephone!
>
> Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard??? All
> cables have been swapped.
>
> FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
>
> Any ideas very much appreciated
>
> Matty
>
>


Steve Magruser

2003-05-22, 4:26 pm

In article <bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Matty" says...
>
>Hi all
>
>Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
>
>> My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to send

>data
>> to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I have
>> tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with the
>> same result.
>>
>> I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which does
>> exactly the same thing.
>>
>> The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as it

>is
>> dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as I
>> assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the time

>out
>> appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try to
>> set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via Internet
>> properties connections.
>>
>> I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
>> compression, etc etc to no avail.
>>
>> I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
>> appears.
>>
>> Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling is
>> correct!!!
>>

>
>Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled DUN, to
>no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a reformat
>reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
>The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal software
>modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
>modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
>this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I tried
>the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same on
>that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the settings
>were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
>
>What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
>evident on the telephone!
>
>Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard??? All
>cables have been swapped.
>
>FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
>
>Any ideas very much appreciated
>
>Matty
>
>


Have you checked the possibility of an interrupt conflict? Something else may be
using the com port of the modem. Also, remember that Com 1 & 3 are associated,
as are Com 2 & 4. That is, if something is using Com 1, a modem on Com 3 won't
work.

The interrupts associated with the com ports are 3 & 4.

--Steve

Franc Zabkar

2003-05-22, 6:25 pm

On Wed, 21 May 2003 20:53:45 +0100, Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>In article <0ELya.38814$3C2.1162091@news3.calgary.shaw.ca>, webmaster@
>127.0.0.1 says...
>> Did you ever think that you may just have too many things connected to
>> the phone line?


The Ringer Equivalence Number of modern telephone appliances does not
impact upon any device's ability to draw a dialtone. It merely
represents the total load seen by the 90VAC ring signal. The REN has
absolutely no bearing on the load at voice frequencies.

>In that event, when you exceed the REN value of the line, all the
>phones ring at once when you plug the extra device in that takes the
>total for all of them over the REN total.


Nonsense. No phone will ring unless a ring signal is present. In the
worst case you may hear tinkling during pulse dialing in older
equipment, but most (all?) appliances these days have anti-tinkling
circuitry. In any case, no such tinkling can occur during tone
dialing.


-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
Matty

2003-05-22, 6:25 pm


"Steve Magruser" <stvhrrs@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:bajdm901q71@drn.newsguy.com...
> In article <bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Matty" says...
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
> >
> >> My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to send

> >data
> >> to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I

have[
color=darkred]
> >> tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with
[/color]
the[c
olor=darkred]
> >> same result.
> >>
> >> I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which
[/color]
does[
color=darkred]
> >> exactly the same thing.
> >>
> >> The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as
[/color]
it
> >is
> >> dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as

I[col
or=darkred]
> >> assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the
[/color]
time
> >out
> >> appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try

to[co
lor=darkred]
> >> set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via
[/color]
Internet
> >> properties connections.
> >>
> >> I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
> >> compression, etc etc to no avail.
> >>
> >> I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
> >> appears.
> >>
> >> Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling

is[co
lor=darkred]
> >> correct!!!
> >>

> >
> >Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled DUN,
[/color]
to
> >no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a

reformat
> >reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> >The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal software
> >modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
> >modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
> >this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I

tried

> >the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same on
> >that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the settings
> >were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
> >
> >What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> >evident on the telephone!
> >
> >Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard???

All
> >cables have been swapped.
> >
> >FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
> >
> >Any ideas very much appreciated
> >
> >Matty
> >
> >

>
> Have you checked the possibility of an interrupt conflict? Something else

may be
> using the com port of the modem. Also, remember that Com 1 & 3 are

associated,
> as are Com 2 & 4. That is, if something is using Com 1, a modem on Com 3

won't
> work.
>
> The interrupts associated with the com ports are 3 & 4.
>
> --Steve
>


Steve

I think you are right but if you refer to my later post you will see how i
concluded the snag!!

Many many thanks for taking the time to offer help. Much appreciated

Matty


JK

2003-05-23, 8:25 am



Matty wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
>
>
>>My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to send

>
> data
>
>>to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I have
>>tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with the
>>same result.
>>
>>I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which does
>>exactly the same thing.


Try using a real modem that has a controller.

>>
>>The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as it

>
> is
>
>>dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as I
>>assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the time

>
> out
>
>>appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try to
>>set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via Internet
>>properties connections.
>>
>>I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
>>compression, etc etc to no avail.
>>
>>I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
>>appears.
>>
>>Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling is
>>correct!!!
>>

>
>
> Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled DUN, to
> no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a reformat
> reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal software
> modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
> modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
> this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I tried
> the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same on
> that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the settings
> were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
>
> What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> evident on the telephone!
>
> Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard??? All
> cables have been swapped.
>
> FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!


Try using a modem with a controller. Especially with computers that have
a slow processor, controllerless modems can be problematic.

>
> Any ideas very much appreciated
>
> Matty
>
>


sdlomi

2003-05-23, 8:25 am


"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bae0t2$9pb$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi all
>
> Further to my last post regarding the modem problem detailed below:
>
> > My modem a Olitec Self Memory 2000 will dial but then seems not to send

> data
> > to connect to the ISP server... timing out after 60 seconds or so. I

have
> > tried different telephone cables, serial cable and phone sockets with

the
> > same result.
> >
> > I have now tried a new internal PCI winmodem..Intel something which does
> > exactly the same thing.
> >
> > The fault works like this. Clicking dial the modem makes the beeps as it

> is
> > dialling the number. Then where I would expect the screeching noise as I
> > assume data is sent to the ISP server all i get is silence with the time

> out
> > appearing after the set 60 seconds. This fault also appears when I try

to
> > set up a new connection through the Windows referral number via Internet
> > properties connections.
> >
> > I have tried many different settings changes..such as disabling header
> > compression, etc etc to no avail.
> >
> > I have uninstalled dial up networking and reinstalled, still the fault
> > appears.
> >
> > Any ideas cos I am getting desperate. I know the number I am dialling is
> > correct!!!
> >

>
> Many thanks for all the replies which I have followed. I reinstalled DUN,

to
> no avail... then Windows 98 with a different copy, and this was a reformat
> reinstall aswell, and I used the typical settings.
> The problem still existed so I tried different modems, internal software
> modems and trying them in different slots. Still have the problem. The
> modems definitely work in my other pC with the same windows installed so
> this leads me to think hardware and motherboard at that. By the way I

tried
> the olitech modem on my pc (windows XP pro) and the fault was the same on
> that... it even fails to detect the dial tone. I can confirm the settings
> were the same on my working pc asthe problem one!
>
> What i do know is even when the modem is dialling the dial tone is still
> evident on the telephone!
>
> Now i am stumped well and truly!! Am i right in thinking motherboard???

All
> cables have been swapped.
>
> FYI the pc is a packard bell P233 ... quite old i know!!
>
> Any ideas very much appreciated
>
> Matty
>
>

Hi, Matty. I know this sounds elementary; however, I have worked off
and on for long periods of time just to find an elementary problem. Try
physically moving your non-working comp. with known good modem installed,
into the e-x-a-c-t environment used by a WORKING modem/computer--identical
power lines, phone cables/connectors, wall outlets, etc. When it then
works, replace that elementary cable, line, adapter with a non-defective
one. HTH & good luck. sdlomi


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