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MCSE courses in London - advice please
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| I am currently looking for a full MCSE course in London. I currently
work as a systems administrator (Win 2K) as well as in general
helpdesk work - this is my first full IT job and I've been there over
six months. I have fairly good hardware experience having built many
PC's but would like to improve my IT qualifications and gain more
server experience which I would be able to utilise on the 20 servers
in use at work.
Therefore I've been thinking about doing a MCSE. As I work a
compressed four day week I would prefer an instructor led/online
training mixture. I have been looking at the various training
organisations available and have been thinking about using Smartrack,
based in Tottenham Hale as this is fairly close and offers instructor
training.
I was wondering if any of you have studied with them or heard some bad
stories. Alternatively any other training providers I should check
out or avoid. Or possibly you may think that the MCSE is old hat and
I should persue another course.
All comments welcomed.
Thanks
Mark
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| Dean S. Lautermilch®²ºº³ 2003-04-21, 7:25 pm |
| Would you want to be in a class with a bunch of newbies who are learning the
very basics?
Invest your money in a home network and multiple sets of books instead and
do it on your own.
"mark" <markb28@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:73e66b92.0304211501.5dd6d01c@posting.google.com...
> I am currently looking for a full MCSE course in London. I currently
> work as a systems administrator (Win 2K) as well as in general
> helpdesk work - this is my first full IT job and I've been there over
> six months. I have fairly good hardware experience having built many
> PC's but would like to improve my IT qualifications and gain more
> server experience which I would be able to utilise on the 20 servers
> in use at work.
>
> Therefore I've been thinking about doing a MCSE. As I work a
> compressed four day week I would prefer an instructor led/online
> training mixture. I have been looking at the various training
> organisations available and have been thinking about using Smartrack,
> based in Tottenham Hale as this is fairly close and offers instructor
> training.
>
> I was wondering if any of you have studied with them or heard some bad
> stories. Alternatively any other training providers I should check
> out or avoid. Or possibly you may think that the MCSE is old hat and
> I should persue another course.
>
> All comments welcomed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark
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| pheonix1t 2003-04-22, 10:25 pm |
| mark wrote:
> I am currently looking for a full MCSE course in London. I currently
> work as a systems administrator (Win 2K) as well as in general
> helpdesk work - this is my first full IT job and I've been there over
> six months. I have fairly good hardware experience having built many
> PC's but would like to improve my IT qualifications and gain more
> server experience which I would be able to utilise on the 20 servers
> in use at work.
>
> Therefore I've been thinking about doing a MCSE. As I work a
> compressed four day week I would prefer an instructor led/online
> training mixture. I have been looking at the various training
> organisations available and have been thinking about using Smartrack,
> based in Tottenham Hale as this is fairly close and offers instructor
> training.
>
> I was wondering if any of you have studied with them or heard some bad
> stories. Alternatively any other training providers I should check
> out or avoid. Or possibly you may think that the MCSE is old hat and
> I should persue another course.
>
> All comments welcomed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark
I agree with Dean.....the class is a waste of your time and money! Get
a lab at home and get some good books. Also....if I were
you....consider a good education (computer science, Info. systems),
think about getting a few certs. The mcse is now a joke....entry level
help desk cert. I guess you're actually living that reality.
Decide if you want to go the router path or the database path. don't
limit yourself to 1 vendor or 1 technology.
I did the database path (oracle, sql, java, asp, html) At first the
languages seemed very hard...but after a while it all comes naturally.
I don't mess with routers that much and I don't intend to....databases
and development are a handful. The one good thing about databases is
that the tech. for databases doesn't change as much or as fast as the
operating systems.
the programming languages is a different story....but still not as bad
as operating systems
what made me choose databases.....very simple. If a few workstations go
down, the business still runs. If a few dsl lines go down, the business
still runs (dial-up or redundant isp's), however if the database goes
down, the business crashes to a halt. All hell breaks loose, maybe some
heads might roll...unless the database gets back up ASAP.
I didn't mention the servers...that is important...but from what I've
seen, the DBA has much more power and influence on management than the
sys. admin. The way the economy is now, they out-source a lot of the
sys. admin work to consultants that can also keep the databases
working.....that's what we do!!
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| Thanks for your advice - I've gone and got some books and will make a
small network in the meantime.
Mark
pheonix1t <9090pheonix1t.at@earthlink.net909090.oio> wrote in message news:<3EA5FB97.2020807@earthlink.net909090.oio>...
> mark wrote:
> > I am currently looking for a full MCSE course in London. I currently
> > work as a systems administrator (Win 2K) as well as in general
> > helpdesk work - this is my first full IT job and I've been there over
> > six months. I have fairly good hardware experience having built many
> > PC's but would like to improve my IT qualifications and gain more
> > server experience which I would be able to utilise on the 20 servers
> > in use at work.
> >
> > Therefore I've been thinking about doing a MCSE. As I work a
> > compressed four day week I would prefer an instructor led/online
> > training mixture. I have been looking at the various training
> > organisations available and have been thinking about using Smartrack,
> > based in Tottenham Hale as this is fairly close and offers instructor
> > training.
> >
> > I was wondering if any of you have studied with them or heard some bad
> > stories. Alternatively any other training providers I should check
> > out or avoid. Or possibly you may think that the MCSE is old hat and
> > I should persue another course.
> >
> > All comments welcomed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mark
> I agree with Dean.....the class is a waste of your time and money! Get
> a lab at home and get some good books. Also....if I were
> you....consider a good education (computer science, Info. systems),
> think about getting a few certs. The mcse is now a joke....entry level
> help desk cert. I guess you're actually living that reality.
> Decide if you want to go the router path or the database path. don't
> limit yourself to 1 vendor or 1 technology.
> I did the database path (oracle, sql, java, asp, html) At first the
> languages seemed very hard...but after a while it all comes naturally.
>
> I don't mess with routers that much and I don't intend to....databases
> and development are a handful. The one good thing about databases is
> that the tech. for databases doesn't change as much or as fast as the
> operating systems.
> the programming languages is a different story....but still not as bad
> as operating systems
>
>
> what made me choose databases.....very simple. If a few workstations go
> down, the business still runs. If a few dsl lines go down, the business
> still runs (dial-up or redundant isp's), however if the database goes
> down, the business crashes to a halt. All hell breaks loose, maybe some
> heads might roll...unless the database gets back up ASAP.
> I didn't mention the servers...that is important...but from what I've
> seen, the DBA has much more power and influence on management than the
> sys. admin. The way the economy is now, they out-source a lot of the
> sys. admin work to consultants that can also keep the databases
> working.....that's what we do!!
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