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HELP!!!!!!! My NIC says disconnected
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| I've installed a second NIC in my Win2K server box and the icon says
it's disconnected..
The setup is:
2nd PC NIC ---> Win2K Server NIC2, NIC1 connected to router
What IP should I assign at the 2nd PC and Win2K NIC2?
Win2k Server using static IP
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| oddduck 2003-03-20, 8:05 am |
| Weel, If it says it's disconnected either you have it disabled or a defective card/cable, etc.. I so from what I gather from your set up you have something like
2000 pro <---> 2000 server <----> router
What internal addressed should you use?
You could just let them default to 169.254.*.* automatic addressing and they would be able to communicate. Because it's all internal it doesn't really matter what IP's you use, though they have reserved a set of IP's of each class for this purpose
10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 (class a)
172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255 (class b)
192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 (class c)
169.254.0.0 to 169.254.255.255 (the automatic addresses)
oddduck/Marianne | |
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| On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:05:22 -0500, oddduck
<oddduck.klfoe@mail.examnotes.net> wrote:
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>Weel, If it says it's disconnected either you have it disabled or a
>defective card/cable, etc.. I so from what I gather from your set up
>you have something like
>
>2000 pro <---> 2000 server <----> router
>
>What internal addressed should you use?
>
>You could just let them default to 169.254.*.* automatic addressing and
>they would be able to communicate. Because it's all internal it
>doesn't really matter what IP's you use, though they have reserved a
>set of IP's of each class for this purpose
>
>10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 (class a)
>172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255 (class b)
>192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 (class c)
>169.254.0.0 to 169.254.255.255 (the automatic addresses)
>
>oddduck/Marianne
the NIC is not defective, I've plugged a cable direct from cable modem
to that NIC and it lights up.
I'm trying to try out some labs using my Win2k box as a router.
Could it be that the IP Routing in RRAS is not setup correctly?
theory meets practical....
>View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1004357.html
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| On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:05:22 -0500, oddduck
<oddduck.klfoe@mail.examnotes.net> wrote:
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>Weel, If it says it's disconnected either you have it disabled or a
>defective card/cable, etc.. I so from what I gather from your set up
>you have something like
>
>2000 pro <---> 2000 server <----> router
>
>What internal addressed should you use?
(PC2) 2K Server NIC <--> NIC #2 (PC1) 2K Server (DC) NIC #1 --->
Router
NIC #2 says disconnected.
I've read Minasi's book and everything looks fine, setup 2 IP subnets
on the DC (Multihome) and the server should route it's own data over
to the 2nd subnet
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| Andy Foster 2003-03-20, 3:25 pm |
| Sam <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote in message news:< 4poi7v03mii03o1q9vpnl352bp75ld
kjio@4ax.com>...
> I've installed a second NIC in my Win2K server box and the icon says
> it's disconnected..
>
>
> The setup is:
>
>
> 2nd PC NIC ---> Win2K Server NIC2, NIC1 connected to router
>
>
>
> What IP should I assign at the 2nd PC and Win2K NIC2?
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> Win2k Server using static IP
What does the 2nd PC say ?
How are the Server and 2nd PC connected ? If you connected them
directly, you did you a crossover cable didn't you ?
What does Device Manager on the Server say ?
Have you installed the drivers for the 2nd NIC ?
Andy
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| On 20 Mar 2003 13:19:02 -0800, andyn05p4m@hotmail.com (Andy Foster)
wrote:
>Sam <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote in message news:< 4poi7v03mii03o1q9vpnl352bp75ld
kjio@4ax.com>...
>> I've installed a second NIC in my Win2K server box and the icon says
>> it's disconnected..
>>
>>
>> The setup is:
>>
>>
>> 2nd PC NIC ---> Win2K Server NIC2, NIC1 connected to router
>>
>>
>>
>> What IP should I assign at the 2nd PC and Win2K NIC2?
>>
>>
>> Win2k Server using static IP
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>What does the 2nd PC say ?
also says network cable disconnected.
>How are the Server and 2nd PC connected ? If you connected them
>directly, you did you a crossover cable didn't you ?
>What does Device Manager on the Server say ?
>Have you installed the drivers for the 2nd NIC ?
>
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>Andy
hmm, I didn't use a crossover, I think that's why... argh! I should
have thought about that. The drivers are fine cause right now I have
the cable modem connected directly to the NIC.
The reason was I had everything setup connected to my SMC router, and
I thought I could just disconnect the connection from router and plug
into my 2nd NIC, so I can test out routing.
I dont' want to run another 100 feet of cable so I guess I'll have to
put a switch or hub in between them right?
Thanks!
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| if its a legacy nic you will have to set the jumpers,
"Sam" <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote in message
news:4poi7v03mii03o1q9vpnl352b
p75ldkjio@4ax.com...
> I've installed a second NIC in my Win2K server box and the icon says
> it's disconnected..
>
>
> The setup is:
>
>
> 2nd PC NIC ---> Win2K Server NIC2, NIC1 connected to router
>
>
>
> What IP should I assign at the 2nd PC and Win2K NIC2?
>
>
> Win2k Server using static IP
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| Andy Foster 2003-03-21, 5:24 pm |
| Sam <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote in message >
> hmm, I didn't use a crossover, I think that's why... argh! I should
> have thought about that. The drivers are fine cause right now I have
> the cable modem connected directly to the NIC.
>
> The reason was I had everything setup connected to my SMC router, and
> I thought I could just disconnect the connection from router and plug
> into my 2nd NIC, so I can test out routing.
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>
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> I dont' want to run another 100 feet of cable so I guess I'll have to
> put a switch or hub in between them right?
>
Yes - you need something to swap the RX and TX lines (usually a hub).
You might be able to find a cheap "2 port hub" on ebay (basically a
connector for joining 2 RJ45s, but with the wiring crossed over) -
being a connector, it doesn't need a power supply (which kinda makes
life a little easier).
HTH
Andy
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| If you're trying to use the server box as a router to get outside you
have to configure RRAS as NAT. IP routing won't work with private IPs
because the internal header stays on the packet all the way to the
destination. When the destination server sends the reply back it now
will have your private IP address as the destination address. Internet
Routers are programmed not to pass private IP addresses in the ranges
stated in the previous message.
The packets will be dropped at the first router in the return trip.
As for the connection, if you have the pro box connected directly to
the server box nic to nic you have to have a crossover cable or the
connection will never be made. If you have a hub plug both into it
this will handle the crossover job for you. Network cabling requires
two pairs of wires (there are four in your cat5 but only two are used)
There is a transmit pair and a receive pair. If you plug the two nics
together the transmit of one computer is going into the transmit of
the other. Thus the need for crossing over the pairs.
Jim
MCP, MCSA, MCSE, A+, Net+
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:19:21 GMT, Sam <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:05:22 -0500, oddduck
><oddduck.klfoe@mail.examnotes.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>Weel, If it says it's disconnected either you have it disabled or a
>>defective card/cable, etc.. I so from what I gather from your set up
>>you have something like
>>
>>2000 pro <---> 2000 server <----> router
>>
>>What internal addressed should you use?
>>
>>You could just let them default to 169.254.*.* automatic addressing and
>>they would be able to communicate. Because it's all internal it
>>doesn't really matter what IP's you use, though they have reserved a
>>set of IP's of each class for this purpose
>>
>>10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 (class a)
>>172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255 (class b)
>>192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 (class c)
>>169.254.0.0 to 169.254.255.255 (the automatic addresses)
>>
>>oddduck/Marianne
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>the NIC is not defective, I've plugged a cable direct from cable modem
>to that NIC and it lights up.
>
>I'm trying to try out some labs using my Win2k box as a router.
>
>
>Could it be that the IP Routing in RRAS is not setup correctly?
>
>
>theory meets practical....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1004357.html
>>oddduck------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>oddduck's Profile: http://www.examnotes.net/forums/mem...o&userid=101552
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| On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:11:36 GMT, Jim <jim@yahoo.com> wrote:
>If you're trying to use the server box as a router to get outside you
>have to configure RRAS as NAT. IP routing won't work with private IPs
>because the internal header stays on the packet all the way to the
>destination. When the destination server sends the reply back it now
>will have your private IP address as the destination address. Internet
>Routers are programmed not to pass private IP addresses in the ranges
>stated in the previous message.
>The packets will be dropped at the first router in the return trip.
>As for the connection, if you have the pro box connected directly to
>the server box nic to nic you have to have a crossover cable or the
>connection will never be made. If you have a hub plug both into it
>this will handle the crossover job for you. Network cabling requires
>two pairs of wires (there are four in your cat5 but only two are used)
>There is a transmit pair and a receive pair. If you plug the two nics
>together the transmit of one computer is going into the transmit of
>the other. Thus the need for crossing over the pairs.
>
>Jim
>MCP, MCSA, MCSE, A+, Net+
So there's no way I can test out IP Routing? I want to try it out for
my 70-216 Studies. I've got ICS and NAT working already. Wouldn't it
be possible to route between 2 different subnets using the 172.16 and
192.168 private ranges?
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:19:21 GMT, Sam <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote:
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>>On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:05:22 -0500, oddduck
>><oddduck.klfoe@mail.examnotes.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Weel, If it says it's disconnected either you have it disabled or a
>>>defective card/cable, etc.. I so from what I gather from your set up
>>>you have something like
>>>
>>>2000 pro <---> 2000 server <----> router
>>>
>>>What internal addressed should you use?
>>>
>>>You could just let them default to 169.254.*.* automatic addressing and
>>>they would be able to communicate. Because it's all internal it
>>>doesn't really matter what IP's you use, though they have reserved a
>>>set of IP's of each class for this purpose
>>>
>>>10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 (class a)
>>>172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255 (class b)
>>>192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 (class c)
>>>169.254.0.0 to 169.254.255.255 (the automatic addresses)
>>>
>>>oddduck/Marianne
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>>the NIC is not defective, I've plugged a cable direct from cable modem
>>to that NIC and it lights up.
>>
>>I'm trying to try out some labs using my Win2k box as a router.
>>
>>
>>Could it be that the IP Routing in RRAS is not setup correctly?
>>
>>
>>theory meets practical....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1004357.html
>>>oddduck------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>oddduck's Profile: http://www.examnotes.net/forums/mem...o&userid=101552
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| That will work, yes. What I meant was you couldn't route to the
Internet. Just run the RRAS wizard and select IP routing and point it
to the two nics with those IP ranges. If you enable two routers and a
third network you'll have to install RIP or OSPF routing protocols
manually.
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 01:32:29 GMT, Sam <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 18:11:36 GMT, Jim <jim@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>If you're trying to use the server box as a router to get outside you
>>have to configure RRAS as NAT. IP routing won't work with private IPs
>>because the internal header stays on the packet all the way to the
>>destination. When the destination server sends the reply back it now
>>will have your private IP address as the destination address. Internet
>>Routers are programmed not to pass private IP addresses in the ranges
>>stated in the previous message.
>>The packets will be dropped at the first router in the return trip.
>>As for the connection, if you have the pro box connected directly to
>>the server box nic to nic you have to have a crossover cable or the
>>connection will never be made. If you have a hub plug both into it
>>this will handle the crossover job for you. Network cabling requires
>>two pairs of wires (there are four in your cat5 but only two are used)
>>There is a transmit pair and a receive pair. If you plug the two nics
>>together the transmit of one computer is going into the transmit of
>>the other. Thus the need for crossing over the pairs.
>>
>>Jim
>>MCP, MCSA, MCSE, A+, Net+
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>So there's no way I can test out IP Routing? I want to try it out for
>my 70-216 Studies. I've got ICS and NAT working already. Wouldn't it
>be possible to route between 2 different subnets using the 172.16 and
>192.168 private ranges?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>> On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 19:19:21 GMT, Sam <house4rent@howhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:05:22 -0500, oddduck
>>><oddduck.klfoe@mail.examnotes.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Weel, If it says it's disconnected either you have it disabled or a
>>>>defective card/cable, etc.. I so from what I gather from your set up
>>>>you have something like
>>>>
>>>>2000 pro <---> 2000 server <----> router
>>>>
>>>>What internal addressed should you use?
>>>>
>>>>You could just let them default to 169.254.*.* automatic addressing and
>>>>they would be able to communicate. Because it's all internal it
>>>>doesn't really matter what IP's you use, though they have reserved a
>>>>set of IP's of each class for this purpose
>>>>
>>>>10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 (class a)
>>>>172.16.0.0 to 172.31.255.255 (class b)
>>>>192.168.0.0 to 192.168.255.255 (class c)
>>>>169.254.0.0 to 169.254.255.255 (the automatic addresses)
>>>>
>>>>oddduck/Marianne
>>>
>>>
>>>the NIC is not defective, I've plugged a cable direct from cable modem
>>>to that NIC and it lights up.
>>>
>>>I'm trying to try out some labs using my Win2k box as a router.
>>>
>>>
>>>Could it be that the IP Routing in RRAS is not setup correctly?
>>>
>>>
>>>theory meets practical....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>View this thread: http://www.examnotes.net/article1004357.html
>>>>oddduck------------------------------------------------------------------------
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