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| Matty 2003-02-08, 11:24 am |
| Hi Again
How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
for my mothers machine!
The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Matty
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| Tom MacIntyre 2003-02-08, 11:24 am |
| On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:25:35 -0000, "Matty"
<matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi Again
>
>How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
>been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
>cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
>Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
>port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
>for my mothers machine!
It may just be that particular modem which needs MMX. See if you can
find an older PCI modem. An ISA modem might be okay anyway as well.
Tom
>
>The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
>Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
>Matty
>
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| Conor Turton 2003-02-08, 11:24 am |
| In article <b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk says...
> Hi Again
>
> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
> been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
> cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
> Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
> port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
> for my mothers machine!
>
> The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
It's dead easy if you use a proper modem and not a cheap XXX bag of
shit winmodem. Did you bother to read the minimum requirements on the
box? You know, the bit that says CPU Min P166MMX???
Get an external serial port one.
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| Alien Zord 2003-02-08, 11:24 am |
| "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
> been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
> cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
>
There are 2 types of PCI modems. Hardware and software. Conexant themselves
make both types of chipsets.
Hardware modem executes all its functions in on-board electronics.
Software modem only has the minimum of on-board electronics capable of
executing the minimum of necessary interface functions, the rest is done by
the CPU. Therefore the CPU needs to be 166 MHz MMX or better.
A software modem is a bit cheaper than hardware modem.
A Conexant hardware modem's chip will have a part no. like RH56, HCF or
HW56.
A Conexant software modem's chip will have RS56, HSF or Soft56K.
There are other modem chipsets like Motorola, AFAIK all software, Intel
Ambient, AFAIK all hardware, USR/3Com, Winmodems are software, rest
hardware.
AFAIK all ISA modems are hardware (with the exceptions of USR Winmodems).
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| Get a real modem which has an onboard controller. You could get a pci
one(you did say
that the motherboard has a pci slot?) , an Isa one(if the motherboard
has an isa slot), or
an external serial one. Be prepared to spend at least $40 for it though.
Modems with
a controller say on the box that they work with DOS. If you want a PCI
one, the
US Robotics 2976 would imo be a good choice.
Matty wrote:
>Hi Again
>
>How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
>been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
>cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
>Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
>port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
>for my mothers machine!
>
>The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
>Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
>Matty
>
>
>
>
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| Matty 2003-02-08, 11:24 am |
|
"Alien Zord" <rem.alienzord@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:b23d0i$17rhgp$1@ID-172721.news.dfncis.de...
> "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I
have
> > been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error
" modem
> > cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
> >
> >
> There are 2 types of PCI modems. Hardware and software. Conexant
themselves
> make both types of chipsets.
> Hardware modem executes all its functions in on-board electronics.
> Software modem only has the minimum of on-board electronics capable of
> executing the minimum of necessary interface functions, the rest is done
by
> the CPU. Therefore the CPU needs to be 166 MHz MMX or better.
> A software modem is a bit cheaper than hardware modem.
>
> A Conexant hardware modem's chip will have a part no. like RH56, HCF or
> HW56.
> A Conexant software modem's chip will have RS56, HSF or Soft56K.
> There are other modem chipsets like Motorola, AFAIK all software, Intel
> Ambient, AFAIK all hardware, USR/3Com, Winmodems are software, rest
> hardware.
> AFAIK all ISA modems are hardware (with the exceptions of USR Winmodems).
>
>
Great Help...Very Many Thanks
Matty
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| On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:25:35 -0000, "Matty"
<matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi Again
>
>How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
>been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
>cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
>Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
>port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
>for my mothers machine!
>
>The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
>Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
>Matt
Put simply, the system is too slow for a PCI winmodem regardless of
whether it has MMX or not.
It might be time to replace the old box, but if you really need to
keep using it then look for ISA modems on ebay, i've seen some for
$10-15.
Dave
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| Forget the PCI modem - go for Isa or Serial. The PCI modem will use too
many system resources for that machine.
--
RussS
MCP W2K, A+, Net+
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| Franc Zabkar 2003-02-08, 3:24 pm |
| On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:58:57 -0000, "Alien Zord"
<rem.alienzord@dsl.pipex.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
>> been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
>> cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>>
>>
>There are 2 types of PCI modems. Hardware and software. Conexant themselves
>make both types of chipsets.
Actually there are three types. A full hardware modem has a
controller, a digital signal processor (DSP), and a telephone line
interface (DAA, data access arrangement). A controllerless modem (aka
Winmodem) has a DSP and DAA, while a softmodem has only a DAA.
Softmodems have the greatest impact upon system resources, while
controllerless modems present a relatively minor load. Both soft and
controllerless modems require drivers, whereas hardware modems require
only an INF file (when configured for Windows).
-- Franc Zabkar
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
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| calypso@fly.srk.fer.hr 2003-02-08, 4:24 pm |
| In alt.comp.hardware Conor Turton <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It's dead easy if you use a proper modem and not a cheap XXX bag of
> shit winmodem. Did you bother to read the minimum requirements on the
> box? You know, the bit that says CPU Min P166MMX???
Motorola SM56 works on P133... I've installed one on my friends one... It
only requires a good FPU... The other CPU I was trying (Cyrix 6x86/166+)
haven't god a good FPU, so it didn't worked on it... 
--
U rodilistu se jucer nezdrav kaktusu udaru. By runf
Damir Lukic, calypso@fly.srk.fer.hr
a member of hr.comp.hardver FAQ-team
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| ~misfit~ 2003-02-08, 6:24 pm |
|
"kony" <kony_@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:25:35 -0000, "Matty"
> <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Hi Again
> >
> >How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
> >been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
> >cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
> >
> >Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
> >port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
> >for my mothers machine!
> >
> >The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
> >
> >Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Matt
>
>
> Put simply, the system is too slow for a PCI winmodem regardless of
> whether it has MMX or not.
>
> It might be time to replace the old box, but if you really need to
> keep using it then look for ISA modems on ebay, i've seen some for
> $10-15.
I had a P1 200 non-MMX and a softmodem I tried to installing it at the time
refused to run as no MMX. I swapped CPUs for a 166MMX and it ran fine. MMX
*is* important with softmodems and P1s.
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| Ralph Wade Phillips 2003-02-08, 8:24 pm |
| Howdy!
"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi Again
>
> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
> been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
> cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
> Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
> port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
> for my mothers machine!
!I! would. Don't forget how much dedicated horsepower there is in a
"real modem". Even a $15 28K8 modem has more DSP horsepower than a P1-133
can possibly generate.
External serials aren't that much, when you can find them.
Or - find a faster machine. I was at the Northwest LA
ComputerSheaux today (won't be another one for three months!) and a gent had
several Celeron 400's with 64M of RAM and 4G HDs and CD-ROMs for $35(!!)
each. Nice kick in the tail, and capable of running that Conexant
piece-of-crap ... err, internal modem ... as well as possible.
RwP
>
> The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
> Matty
>
>
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| John E. Carty 2003-02-08, 9:24 pm |
|
"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@subNOSPAMdimension.com> wrote in message
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>
> "kony" <kony_@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:3e454e88.309807508@netnews.insightbb.com...
> > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:25:35 -0000, "Matty"
> > <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > >Hi Again
> > >
> > >How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I
have[
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> > >been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error[/color]
" modem
> > >cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the
modem. [colo
r=darkred]
> > >
> > >Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older[/color]
serial
> > >port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go
online
> > >for my mothers machine!
> > >
> > >The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
> > >
> > >Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >Matt
> >
> >
> > Put simply, the system is too slow for a PCI winmodem regardless of
> > whether it has MMX or not.
I had a winmodem in an old p120, and it worked just fine :-)
> >
> > It might be time to replace the old box, but if you really need to
> > keep using it then look for ISA modems on ebay, i've seen some for
> > $10-15.
>
> I had a P1 200 non-MMX and a softmodem I tried to installing it at the
time
> refused to run as no MMX. I swapped CPUs for a 166MMX and it ran fine. MMX
> *is* important with softmodems and P1s.
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| Stacey 2003-02-08, 9:24 pm |
| On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:25:35 -0000, "Matty"
<matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi Again
>
>How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
>been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
>cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
>Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
>port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
>for my mothers machine!
You don't want a software PCI modem on a machine that slow. It will
drag it to it's knees! Been there done that. You WANT an isa modem,
they ussually provide more throughput from my experience than a PCI
modem anyway. I have an old K6-2 box as a gateway so I can use an old
V-everything USR modem cause it connects faster than any of the PCI
modems I've tried on my lines..
Stacey
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| Stacey 2003-02-09, 12:24 am |
| On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:46:17 GMT, "John E. Carty"
<jcarty@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@subNOSPAMdimension.com> wrote in message
>news:9ch1a.77119$F63.1583013@news.xtra.co.nz...
>>
>> "kony" <kony_@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> news:3e454e88.309807508@netnews.insightbb.com...
>> > On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:25:35 -0000, "Matty"
>> > <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Hi Again
>> > >
>> > >How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I
> have
>> > >been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error
>" modem
>> > >cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the
>modem.
>> > >
>> > >Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older
> serial
>> > >port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go
> online
>> > >for my mothers machine!
>> > >
>> > >The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>> > >
>> > >Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>> > >
>> > >Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > Put simply, the system is too slow for a PCI winmodem regardless of
>> > whether it has MMX or not.
>
>I had a winmodem in an old p120, and it worked just fine :-)
>
Probably was a controllerless or "DSP" modem not a true software
moden. A p120 wouldn't run a soft modem but would run a dsp style one
fine. My old pentium 133 laptop has a dsp and it works fine.
Stacey
| |
|
| On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:46:17 GMT, "John E. Carty"
<jcarty@NOSPAMaustin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> > Put simply, the system is too slow for a PCI winmodem regardless of
>> > whether it has MMX or not.
>
>I had a winmodem in an old p120, and it worked just fine :-)
>
A P120 is too slow to start adding devices that require host
processing to work from a user standpoint. I won't do it nor would i
recommend that anyone else do it unless there was no other
alternative.
The modem "might" work, but then consider USING the system too...
It's already slow, will be slower, maybe disconnect frequently, and
some winmodems will even connect at lower speeds on a slow system.
Then there's the PCI slots... fewer of them on an old socket 7 board,
it's often better to use ISA slots for any device that doesn't need
the PCI bus for best performance.
IMHO there's no good reason to choose a PCI winmodem on any system
under 300MHz, especially these days with the ISA hardware modems being
dirt cheap.
Dave
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| Andy Foster 2003-02-09, 3:24 am |
| You need a hardware modem. The modem you tried to use is almost certainly a
winmodem.
HTH
Andy
"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi Again
>
> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
> been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
> cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
> Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
> port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
> for my mothers machine!
>
> The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
> Matty
>
>
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| Mark W 2003-02-09, 4:24 am |
|
"Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hi Again
>
> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
> been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
> cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
> Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
> port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
> for my mothers machine!
>
> The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
A serial modem would be the easiest to get working.
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| bogustxtburnetga@muohio.edu 2003-02-10, 10:24 pm |
| In article <b23b0d$vh7$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Matty" <matt@slippeddisk.fsnenegspamt.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi Again
>
>How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
>been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
>cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
>Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
>port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
>for my mothers machine!
>
>The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
>Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
>Matty
>
>
Check out www.axiontech.com thay have a few
"new sysytem pulls" of the old isa USR 5687 $19
It was a very good model.
Good luck.
| |
| CBFalconer 2003-02-11, 8:24 am |
| bogustxtburnetga@muohio
.edu wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
> Check out www.axiontech.com thay have a few
> "new sysytem pulls" of the old isa USR 5687 $19
> It was a very good model.
I did and I was willing to buy one. No way to do so on their
pages. (I operate with javascript and image downloading disabled
for security). While this alone is a small matter, they have
permanently lost any possibility of further business with me.
Idiotic site designers.
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| Steve Reinis 2003-02-11, 9:25 am |
| Idiotic site builders because they are keeping up with the times?
I suppose we should all go back to plain ASCII days on monochrome monitors
where 64k of RAM and a 360k floppy was perfect for anything a person could
ever want to do on a computer?
And even if you don't like JavaScript, it's not as if they shut you out
completely. I quickly found alternative ways to order products from Axion:
Ordering by Phone:
Toll Free: 1-888-AXION55
Tel: (281) 575-0007 option 2
Monday to Friday 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m (CST)
If you live in the Houston, TX area
.. Walk-In:
Monday to Friday 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. (CST).
.. Open for Saturday (Phone & Walk-In):
From 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m (CST). Excluding Holidays.
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> bogustxtburnetga@muohio
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> >
> ... snip ...
> >
> > Check out www.axiontech.com thay have a few
> > "new sysytem pulls" of the old isa USR 5687 $19
> > It was a very good model.
>
> I did and I was willing to buy one. No way to do so on their
> pages. (I operate with javascript and image downloading disabled
> for security). While this alone is a small matter, they have
> permanently lost any possibility of further business with me.
> Idiotic site designers.
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| defdskaO 2003-02-11, 9:25 am |
| No... Idiot designers because they expect folks to leave their PC's
open for attack.
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> Idiotic site builders because they are keeping up with the times?
>
> I suppose we should all go back to plain ASCII days on monochrome
monitors
> where 64k of RAM and a 360k floppy was perfect for anything a person
could
> ever want to do on a computer?
| |
| Steve Reinis 2003-02-11, 10:24 am |
| Amazing how in the many years I've been using technology and computers (From
DOS and Windows, to Mac, Unix and OS/2 - Since about 1984 or so) I've never
once had a virus infection or anything else harmful get to me via malicious
scripting. Use precaution, sense, and quality anti-virus software, as well
as other tools here and there and you can survive without staring at plain
text in your web browser or worrying about little nasties arriving via
email.
-Steve
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| CBFalconer 2003-02-11, 2:25 pm |
| Steve Reinis wrote:
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> > bogustxtburnetga@muohio
.edu wrote:
> > >
> > ... snip ...
> > >
> > > Check out www.axiontech.com thay have a few
> > > "new sysytem pulls" of the old isa USR 5687 $19
> > > It was a very good model.
> >
> > I did and I was willing to buy one. No way to do so on their
> > pages. (I operate with javascript and image downloading disabled
> > for security). While this alone is a small matter, they have
> > permanently lost any possibility of further business with me.
> > Idiotic site designers.
>
> Idiotic site builders because they are keeping up with the times?
>
> I suppose we should all go back to plain ASCII days on monochrome
> monitors where 64k of RAM and a 360k floppy was perfect for anything
> a person could ever want to do on a computer?
It is not hard to build sites that don't rely on insecurities.
And yes, plain text is suitable for almost everything - it results
in rapid transmissions, easy searches, and general usability.
>
> And even if you don't like JavaScript, it's not as if they shut you
> out completely. I quickly found alternative ways to order products
> from Axion:
>
> Ordering by Phone:
> Toll Free: 1-888-AXION55
> Tel: (281) 575-0007 option 2
> Monday to Friday 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m (CST)
Thanks for that, but I am put off and not likely to use them.
Note that that info was not even apparent on their site.
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Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
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| Stacey 2003-02-12, 2:24 am |
| On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:28:33 GMT, CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>bogustxtburnetga@muohio.edu wrote:
>>
>... snip ...
>>
>> Check out www.axiontech.com thay have a few
>> "new sysytem pulls" of the old isa USR 5687 $19
>> It was a very good model.
>
>I did and I was willing to buy one. No way to do so on their
>pages. (I operate with javascript and image downloading disabled
>for security). While this alone is a small matter, they have
>permanently lost any possibility of further business with me.
>Idiotic site designers.
Duh maybe try turning it ON for this one transaction? I have this
stuff disabled in my firewall software but turn it on if I have to use
java to order stuff etc. If it's not some sleezy site, java shouldn't
be a concern.
I agree with the other poster, I've been using computers since the
early 80's and have never gotten the first virus and never gone to any
extreams to avoid them. I don't even use AV software, just common
sense, something it sound like you are lacking...
Stacey
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| Jake ROT-13 2003-02-12, 5:24 pm |
| On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:55:55 -0500, Stacey <fotocord@yahoo.com> dropped
his keyboard in the bathtub. The resulting short-circuit generated the
following gibberish:
>I agree with the other poster, I've been using computers since the
>early 80's and have never gotten the first virus and never gone to any
>extreams to avoid them. I don't even use AV software, just common
>sense, something it sound like you are lacking...
>
I agree with you about common sense, and just don't like going to
extremes like the other guy. I believe Java is at best, an unneeded
resource hogger and possibly an invitation to attack, but I realise it's
a necessity in everyday life. I simply turn off Java when I'm poking
around sites I'm not *sure* about.
However...
If you dont use AV software, how do you know for sure your system is
clean? Not all malware has noticible symptoms. Common sense alone
can't protect anybody from attack. Despite all the precautions I took,
I got bit once by a virus. A friend brought over an infected game
diskette about 10 years ago. We were playing when the power went off for
a few seconds. When the power came back on, the machine rebooted with
the diskette still in the drive, infecting the machine with
"Frankenstein," a boot-sector virus.
No real damage, but there could have been. After that incident, I
change my BIOS settings to boot from HD only, except on the rare
occasion I need to boot from a floppy.
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| Matty wrote:
> Hi Again
>
> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I have
> been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error "modem
> cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
>
> Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older serial
> port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go online
> for my mothers machine!
>
> The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>
> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>
> Matty
>
>
If the comp has a free 9 pin serial port get an external 56K serial
modem and cable - even DOS can use them. The serial cable performance
hit is relatively minor and you get all those pretty 'blinkin lights'.
HTH,
John
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You know what to do ...
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| MrToed 2003-02-22, 9:24 pm |
| JDK <John@nowhere.com> Quite suddenly blurted out in public
news:v5gcsqsvt2t351@corp.supernews.com:
> Matty wrote:
>> Hi Again
>>
>> How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I
>> have been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the
>> error "modem cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore
>> disables the modem.
>>
>> Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older
>> serial port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able
>> to go online for my mothers machine!
>>
>> The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
>>
>> Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Matty
>>
>>
>
> If the comp has a free 9 pin serial port get an external 56K serial
> modem and cable - even DOS can use them. The serial cable performance
> hit is relatively minor and you get all those pretty 'blinkin lights'.
>
> HTH,
> John
>
Actually, there is no performance hit.
Even the old serial ports can do 128K, way faster than any modem...  ]
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"Light travels faster than sound;
This is why some people appear to be bright
until you hear what they have to say"
-anonymous
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| johnbald 2003-02-24, 2:24 am |
| If you need to use an internal modem throw away the conexant modem. Get an
internal modem with the lucent chip. Easy to install and works everytime.
All my internal modems are lucent modems. In my experience conexant modems
give me the most trouble and never worked for me!!!
Wish you luck.
If you can incerease your Ram to 64MB or higher but I think not in excess of
128MB.
"JDK" <John@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:v5gcsqsvt2t351@corp.supernews.com...
> Matty wrote:
> > Hi Again
> >
> > How easy will it be to get a modem to work in a pre-MMX P1 133 PC? I
have
> > been trying to fit a CNet Conexant 56K PCI modem but get the error
" modem
> > cannot find a MMX-capable CPU" and Windows therefore disables the modem.
> >
> > Am I left with fitting an ISA modem to work here, or even an older
serial
> > port one? This is not essential but would be nice to be able to go
online
> > for my mothers machine!
> >
> > The machine runs windows 98Se, and has 48MB ram, and a 10GB HDD!!
> >
> > Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Matty
> >
> >
>
> If the comp has a free 9 pin serial port get an external 56K serial
> modem and cable - even DOS can use them. The serial cable performance
> hit is relatively minor and you get all those pretty 'blinkin lights'.
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> --
> All messages checked by Norton Antivirus.
> You know what to do ...
> jdk<at>sgi<dot>net
>
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