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Lee Whattler

2003-11-25, 6:25 pm

Taking the exam on Thursday... Panicing already :-)
Been reading round the various areas and have just used the Transcender exam
disc. Failed one and passed the other two tests.

Are the questions in the transcender a pretty close representation of the
actual exams questions?

Thanks

Marlin Munrow

2003-11-25, 6:25 pm

Transcender is pretty close (well on the concepts anyway - no where
near the *actual* questions)

I saw a great link on advice (general) for exam taking - wish I'd
noted down the URL

216 is as tough as every (according to one of my guys who just sat it)

All I can say is there really aint enough time - you gotta budget 90
seconds per question. - good luck

I always offer the same advice no matter what the exam:
(sounds like the song about "sunscreen" from the 80's!)

1) Treat each question as equally important

2) Read the question aloud. (in a quiet whisper) and make sure you
"say" every word. Wherever there is a "NOT" or an "AND" emphasise
these. (For "NOT!" I always think of Roseanne)

3) Read the last sentence of each paragraph of the question twice
(this is where the question usually lies)

3a) Read the answers first then read the question

4) If there are 4 answers read the last answer first then read the
third then second and then first (read them D, C, B then A) this will
stop you settling on the wrong answer too quickly.

5) Try to spot where the question writers have introduced "noise"
(irrelevant information intended to catch those going for the world
speed record) Ignore noise where you can.

6) Try to to score the responses in multiple choices as:
-Hot
-Warm
-Cold
Use these to isolate the responses you are not interested in before
trying to compare the two "hot" answers.

7) In the event where you have multiple steps only enter the minimum
steps required - nothing more!

8) Where you are uncertain having used all the steps above (which will
likely be less than 25-30% of the questions (say 10-15 at most) use
the "mark" button and come back to them after you have answered all
the ones you have some certainty about.

For the "beast" the key is stay calm, and plan to pass by keeping an
eye on the time. Enjoy the cut and thrust of the questions which can
come from many different angles.

I like to think of myself as being like Morpheus saying to the
question writer "stop trying to hit me and hit me". This helps me
feel that the question writer is only another human being whose skill
I am trying to outwit and boosts my confidence. Dont let the question
writer knock you off balance using questions from other parts of the
curriculum, take them in your stride, expect the "off-topic" questions
and welcome them.

Keep your Mind Clear of clutter and trust your instincts. If you see
and answer and your response is "I like that answer" and maybe you
have a wry smile on your face as you think that it may just "be the
one".

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:22:14 -0000, "Lee Whattler"
<aptd20@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

>Taking the exam on Thursday... Panicing already :-)
>Been reading round the various areas and have just used the Transcender exam
>disc. Failed one and passed the other two tests.
>
>Are the questions in the transcender a pretty close representation of the
>actual exams questions?
>
>Thanks
>
>

Nettransplant

2003-11-25, 11:27 pm

I was really disappointed with 216. I had expected more IP questions and
did not get them. I also lucked out and got several WINS and DHCP questions
which is a main area of interest (I looked after both at a major airline).
No subnetting questions at all but many people seem to get them.

"Marlin Munrow" <MarlinMunrow-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
news:n8n7svcc1e1ksmk4ioti9tlbf
pbpcj01f4@4ax.com...
> Transcender is pretty close (well on the concepts anyway - no where
> near the *actual* questions)
>
> I saw a great link on advice (general) for exam taking - wish I'd
> noted down the URL
>
> 216 is as tough as every (according to one of my guys who just sat it)
>
> All I can say is there really aint enough time - you gotta budget 90
> seconds per question. - good luck
>
>
> I always offer the same advice no matter what the exam:
> (sounds like the song about "sunscreen" from the 80's!)
>
> 1) Treat each question as equally important
>
> 2) Read the question aloud. (in a quiet whisper) and make sure you
> "say" every word. Wherever there is a "NOT" or an "AND" emphasise
> these. (For "NOT!" I always think of Roseanne)
>
> 3) Read the last sentence of each paragraph of the question twice
> (this is where the question usually lies)
>
> 3a) Read the answers first then read the question
>
> 4) If there are 4 answers read the last answer first then read the
> third then second and then first (read them D, C, B then A) this will
> stop you settling on the wrong answer too quickly.
>
> 5) Try to spot where the question writers have introduced "noise"
> (irrelevant information intended to catch those going for the world
> speed record) Ignore noise where you can.
>
> 6) Try to to score the responses in multiple choices as:
> -Hot
> -Warm
> -Cold
> Use these to isolate the responses you are not interested in before
> trying to compare the two "hot" answers.
>
> 7) In the event where you have multiple steps only enter the minimum
> steps required - nothing more!
>
> 8) Where you are uncertain having used all the steps above (which will
> likely be less than 25-30% of the questions (say 10-15 at most) use
> the "mark" button and come back to them after you have answered all
> the ones you have some certainty about.
>
> For the "beast" the key is stay calm, and plan to pass by keeping an
> eye on the time. Enjoy the cut and thrust of the questions which can
> come from many different angles.
>
> I like to think of myself as being like Morpheus saying to the
> question writer "stop trying to hit me and hit me". This helps me
> feel that the question writer is only another human being whose skill
> I am trying to outwit and boosts my confidence. Dont let the question
> writer knock you off balance using questions from other parts of the
> curriculum, take them in your stride, expect the "off-topic" questions
> and welcome them.
>
> Keep your Mind Clear of clutter and trust your instincts. If you see
> and answer and your response is "I like that answer" and maybe you
> have a wry smile on your face as you think that it may just "be the
> one".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:22:14 -0000, "Lee Whattler"
> <aptd20@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
exam[color=blue]
>

Marlin Munrow

2003-11-26, 2:24 pm

My guess... maybe it depends on your Microsoft Profile?

If you've taken loads of exams and always answer the pre-test with "I
am an expert, I've used the product for a long time" then the
questions appear to be selected ahead of time to suit you ?

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 03:27:24 GMT, "Nettransplant"
<nettransplant@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I was really disappointed with 216. I had expected more IP questions and
>did not get them. I also lucked out and got several WINS and DHCP questions
>which is a main area of interest (I looked after both at a major airline).
>No subnetting questions at all but many people seem to get them.
>
>"Marlin Munrow" <MarlinMunrow-the-PFY@gonefission.com> wrote in message
> news:n8n7svcc1e1ksmk4ioti9tlbf
pbpcj01f4@4ax.com...
>exam
>

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