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What should my Salary BE??????
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| Hello,,
I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range I should
be at.
A little background of my work history...
I live in Oklahoma City
Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information Systems,
A+ Certification
Network+ Certification
Soon to be MCSA
I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the Networking
department. Our company has about 40 employees.
About 6 months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his
responsibilities.
I take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and also all
the network Infrastructure management for the employees. I am the only
employee in the network department now since the other employee left.
Salary:
I make in the low 30's.
I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions.
Thanks......
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| On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 04:59:26 +0000, josh wrote:
> Hello,,
>
> I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range I
> should be at.
> A little background of my work history...
>
> I live in Oklahoma City
> Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information Systems, A+
> Certification
> Network+ Certification
> Soon to be MCSA
> I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the
> Networking department. Our company has about 40 employees. About 6
> months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his responsibilities. I
> take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and also all
> the network Infrastructure management for the employees. I am the only
> employee in the network department now since the other employee left.
>
> Salary:
> I make in the low 30's.
> I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions. Thanks......
I manage 500+ servers 6000+ desktops in a 20000 Sqf data center and over
150,000 employees world wide and make in the 60's. You are over paid you
should only be making in the 5's  .
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| If I did only make in the 5's like you say Jeff, then I would put that money
aside and save up to put a hit out on you head.
Jeff is a XXX!!!!
"Jeff" <in2falling@notmail.com> wrote in message
news an.2002.11.27.05.54.40.607443@notmail.com...
> On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 04:59:26 +0000, josh wrote:
>
> > Hello,,
> >
> > I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range I
> > should be at.
> > A little background of my work history...
> >
> > I live in Oklahoma City
> > Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information Systems, A+
> > Certification
> > Network+ Certification
> > Soon to be MCSA
> > I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the
> > Networking department. Our company has about 40 employees. About 6
> > months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his responsibilities. I
> > take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and also all
> > the network Infrastructure management for the employees. I am the only
> > employee in the network department now since the other employee left.
> >
> > Salary:
> > I make in the low 30's.
> > I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions. Thanks......
>
>
> I manage 500+ servers 6000+ desktops in a 20000 Sqf data center and over
> 150,000 employees world wide and make in the 60's. You are over paid you
> should only be making in the 5's .
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| SuperTech 2002-11-27, 7:24 pm |
| "josh" <josh@me.com> wrote in
news:OiYE9.1609$0b.66@news2.central.cox.net:
> Hello,,
>
> I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range
> I should be at.
> A little background of my work history...
>
> I live in Oklahoma City
> Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information
> Systems, A+ Certification
> Network+ Certification
> Soon to be MCSA
> I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the
> Networking department. Our company has about 40 employees.
> About 6 months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his
> responsibilities.
> I take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and
> also all the network Infrastructure management for the employees.
> I am the only employee in the network department now since the
> other employee left.
>
> Salary:
> I make in the low 30's.
> I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions.
> Thanks......
Based on your experience and skill set, I would say that your salary
should be at least in the high 30's, low 40's. Did you talk with
your employer about salary compensation when the network
administrator left?
SuperTech
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| Ya, I talked to them when he left.
Our company was just bought out by another computer company, so my HR lady
told me it would be about 4 months before they could do anything.
Now that they are giving raises, I felt that I should get a salary
adjustment, not just a % increase. Well see if they are going to increase
my salary, if not I will probably look around for another job.
> Based on your experience and skill set, I would say that your salary
> should be at least in the high 30's, low 40's. Did you talk with
> your employer about salary compensation when the network
> administrator left?
>
> SuperTech
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| On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:45:15 +0000, josh wrote:
> If I did only make in the 5's like you say Jeff, then I would put that
> money aside and save up to put a hit out on you head.
>
> Jeff is a XXX!!!!
Oh I am so sorry that I did not post what you wanted to hear! Ok you
should be making in the $70's and a new company car! There is that better?
I mean really who the hell would post a question like this in a NG? Have
you not looked at job ads in you city? Have you not looked at the
unemployment rate and the overall IT industry? You manage a 40 users
network, most companies would out source this and would be maybe a 10 hour
a week job for someone.
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| ONCE Again
JEFF IS a XXX!!!!!!!
and he can kiss mine!!!!!!!!!
Bye the way, I don't think you know anything about networking.
Plugging a computer into a wall outlet is not networking you jerk...
Out of the 150,000 employees that you say you manage, I bet you don't go and
see any of them. Not every office could outsource with 40 employees.
How about I pay you 5000 to come and work for me. I don't think you could
handle it.
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| Chocolat Belgique 2002-11-29, 12:24 pm |
| It's very, very simple.
You salary should be whatever you can convince an employer that you're worth
paying - nothing more, and nothing less. If you've hit a ceiling with one
employer there's nothing stopping you from trying another.
Degrees, certificates, on-the-job experience, and anything else you can
bring to bear are all legitimate tools that you can use to help persuade an
employer of your value, but not one of them entitles you to a thing.
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| On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 03:41:30 +0000, josh wrote:
> ONCE Again
> JEFF IS a XXX!!!!!!!
>
> and he can kiss mine!!!!!!!!!
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> Bye the way, I don't think you know anything about networking.
Awww did I hurt your feelings? Have to resort to name calling?
>Plugging a
> computer into a wall outlet is not networking you jerk...
Did you learn that in A+ or Net+ class?
> Out of the
> 150,000 employees that you say you manage, I bet you don't go and see any
> of them.
No not to many of they since I work on server side.
> Not every office could outsource with 40 employees. How about I
> pay you 5000 to come and work for me. I don't think you could handle
>it.
No you are right I don't think I could handle it, I would probably shoot
my self from shear boredom after the first week.
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| alement 2002-11-29, 5:24 pm |
| Well put!!
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 21:50:03 +1100, Chocolat Belgique wrote:
> It's very, very simple.
>
> You salary should be whatever you can convince an employer that you're
> worth paying - nothing more, and nothing less. If you've hit a ceiling
> with one employer there's nothing stopping you from trying another.
>
> Degrees, certificates, on-the-job experience, and anything else you can
> bring to bear are all legitimate tools that you can use to help persuade
> an employer of your value, but not one of them entitles you to a thing.
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| Tom MacIntyre 2002-11-29, 6:25 pm |
| On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 10:50:03 -0000, "Chocolat Belgique"
<Henri.Schact@hotmail.be> wrote:
>It's very, very simple.
>
>You salary should be whatever you can convince an employer that you're worth
>paying - nothing more, and nothing less. If you've hit a ceiling with one
>employer there's nothing stopping you from trying another.
>
>Degrees, certificates, on-the-job experience, and anything else you can
>bring to bear are all legitimate tools that you can use to help persuade an
>employer of your value, but not one of them entitles you to a thing.
>
Good post...Jeff, however, is certainly being mean.
Tom
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| Steven Rose 2002-11-29, 9:24 pm |
| Hello Josh,
First off, make sure you value having a full time job. With today's
economy, especially in the I.T. field you can't just walk across the
street and get another job. You just moved into the Admin role, so
just do your job and don't make any waves. When it comes time for
your annual review, then you can ask for a pay increase. Maybe you
can get the same pay as the previous Network Admin was getting, if you
haven't already. Get your MCSA, but better yet your MCSE, and focus
on what your company needs as far as the exams you take. Like do you
have Exchange Servers, SQL servers, or is Security important to your
company. Maybe the new Microsoft security tests, plus the CompTIA
Security+ certification would make you extra valuable to your company.
Ask them what they want, and how you could be more valuable to them.
It's better if they think it's their idea. Honestly, I think the low
30's is okay for the size of your network, and the responsibilities
you describe. I was the network admin of 170+ users, around 15
servers, and hand held my users all day long. I only made in the low
30's with that job. Anyhow, I think the salary range for someone with
you education, experience, and job duties could be from $32,500 -
$42,500.
Good Luck, and remember to value what you have. Your making $30K+
more than a person with a Bachelor's degree and no job.
Steven Rose
Senior Consultant
I.T. Centric
MCSE, MCSA, MCP/NT4,
CNA, CCNA, CIW Security Analyst,
CompTIA A+, iNet+, Network+
"josh" <josh@me.com> wrote in message news:<OiYE9.1609$0b.66@news2.central.cox.net>...
> Hello,,
>
> I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range I should
> be at.
> A little background of my work history...
>
> I live in Oklahoma City
> Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information Systems,
> A+ Certification
> Network+ Certification
> Soon to be MCSA
> I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the Networking
> department. Our company has about 40 employees.
> About 6 months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his
> responsibilities.
> I take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and also all
> the network Infrastructure management for the employees. I am the only
> employee in the network department now since the other employee left.
>
> Salary:
> I make in the low 30's.
> I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions.
> Thanks......
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| You really sound personable JEFF.
Stay working behind the servers.
I don't think any end-user could handle talking to you.
They would probably have to shoot themselves after hearing your computer
knowledge. Maybe you can tell them you make in the 60's to impress them.
:-)
HAVE A NICE DAY jeff
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| josh wrote:
> You really sound personable JEFF.
> Stay working behind the servers.
> I don't think any end-user could handle talking to you.
> They would probably have to shoot themselves after hearing your computer
> knowledge. Maybe you can tell them you make in the 60's to impress them.
> :-)
> HAVE A NICE DAY jeff
I am not trying to tout my salary around. My original reply to you, I was
just pulling your leg and you got all bent out of shape. I was just
pointing out that you are going to have a hard time making any really
money working in a small shop, and the economy is not the greatest for IT.
Maybe 5 years ago you could ask for 45k in a small shop but not today.
What I would do if I where you take advantage of what you have right now and
study your XXX off and then try and find another job a few years down the
road at a bigger shop where you can get more experience and make more
money. Also MCSE is a alright cert but there are many many of them out
there, which drives the salaries down. Your bachelors is going to help you
once you get more experience and some certs. I would also try and find a
specialized area along with you your general certs if you want to make more
money in the IT field, maybe look at SQL/Orcale DBA or CCIE.
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> Based on your experience and skill set, I would say that your salary
> should be at least in the high 30's, low 40's. Did you talk with
> your employer about salary compensation when the network
> administrator left?
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> SuperTech
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He's only looking after 40 users... that's tiny.... 25 + in the current
market is good ... its a buyers market and there ain't jobs out there, so I
would watch what you do and say to your boss.. and as Jeff says a 40 user
site is about 2 days work a week if the System Administrator is any good..
I know this as I have numerous sites to manage and support and some of the
smaller ones are 40 - 100 users and larger ones of 200+
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| SuperTech 2002-11-30, 6:24 pm |
| "Blaze" <asfdaf@aff.com> wrote in
news:3de9065c_3@corp.newsgroups.com:
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>> Based on your experience and skill set, I would say that your
>> salary should be at least in the high 30's, low 40's. Did you
>> talk with your employer about salary compensation when the
>> network administrator left?
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>> SuperTech
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> He's only looking after 40 users... that's tiny.... 25 + in the
> current market is good ... its a buyers market and there ain't
> jobs out there, so I would watch what you do and say to your
> boss.. and as Jeff says a 40 user site is about 2 days work a
> week if the System Administrator is any good..
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> I know this as I have numerous sites to manage and support and
> some of the smaller ones are 40 - 100 users and larger ones of
> 200+
Hmm, I make more then him with less experience in a help desk
environment. Granted, there are more users, but his salary seems
kind of low for me. According to RHI Consulting, PC Techs should be
making mid-30's.
Any Joe Blow can't be a system administrator.
SuperTech
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| David Wiseman 2002-12-03, 12:25 pm |
| Just to clarify, are people talking in £ or $? That could make a difference.
I'm from the UK (North East)
Jobs are hard to find here! Low salaries too.
"josh" <josh@me.com> wrote in message
news:OiYE9.1609$0b.66@news2.central.cox.net...
> Hello,,
>
> I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range I should
> be at.
> A little background of my work history...
>
> I live in Oklahoma City
> Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information Systems,
> A+ Certification
> Network+ Certification
> Soon to be MCSA
> I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the
Networking
> department. Our company has about 40 employees.
> About 6 months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his
> responsibilities.
> I take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and also all
> the network Infrastructure management for the employees. I am the only
> employee in the network department now since the other employee left.
>
> Salary:
> I make in the low 30's.
> I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions.
> Thanks......
>
>
>
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| well, according to many training schools producing Engineers in few month
time, you should be making at least $70,000 (US dollars) since you have so
many certifications including a title from Microsoft and a bachelor degree.
It looks like you are well under paid !
"josh" <josh@me.com> wrote in message
news:OiYE9.1609$0b.66@news2.central.cox.net...
> Hello,,
>
> I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range I should
> be at.
> A little background of my work history...
>
> I live in Oklahoma City
> Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information Systems,
> A+ Certification
> Network+ Certification
> Soon to be MCSA
> I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the
Networking
> department. Our company has about 40 employees.
> About 6 months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his
> responsibilities.
> I take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and also all
> the network Infrastructure management for the employees. I am the only
> employee in the network department now since the other employee left.
>
> Salary:
> I make in the low 30's.
> I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions.
> Thanks......
>
>
>
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| Nick Funk 2003-01-18, 9:24 am |
| I can see why eveybody left! Not knowing anything about the company but
the primary reasons for leaving a company are low pay or benefits,
hostile environment and lack of support from management.
Not knowing the length of time and experience of the past admin and
since he/she left and you have taken on the roles of admin plus with
your educations you should be making at least 75% of his/her salary.
Is the company paying for your MCSA?
For a small company $70,000 might be stretching it unless the company is
highly profitable.
Honey wrote:
>well, according to many training schools producing Engineers in few month
>time, you should be making at least $70,000 (US dollars) since you have so
>many certifications including a title from Microsoft and a bachelor degree.
>It looks like you are well under paid !
>"josh" <josh@me.com> wrote in message
>news:OiYE9.1609$0b.66@news2.central.cox.net...
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>>Hello,,
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>>I was just curious if anybody could let me know what salary range I should
>>be at.
>>A little background of my work history...
>>
>>I live in Oklahoma City
>>Bachelor of Business Administration, Management Information Systems,
>>A+ Certification
>>Network+ Certification
>>Soon to be MCSA
>>I have worked for the same company for about 3 years now in the
>>
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>Networking
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>>department. Our company has about 40 employees.
>>About 6 months ago, the Network Admin left and I took on his
>>responsibilities.
>>I take care of all the help desk functions for the employees and also all
>>the network Infrastructure management for the employees. I am the only
>>employee in the network department now since the other employee left.
>>
>>Salary:
>>I make in the low 30's.
>>I was just wondering if anybody will have some suggestions.
>>Thanks......
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