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| Kathy eninew-isbister 2002-06-28, 3:59 pm |
| 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is it
used on most removable disks"
could someone please point me to more information about this? what exactly
does this mean?
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| Andy Barkl 2002-06-28, 3:59 pm |
| "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is
it
> used on most removable disks"
> could someone please point me to more information about this? what exactly
> does this mean?
The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities available on
the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
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| Kathy eninew-isbister 2002-06-28, 3:59 pm |
| this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
floppy disks? or removable disks?
"Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
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> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is
> it
> > used on most removable disks"
> > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
exactly
> > does this mean?
>
> The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities available
on
> the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
>
>
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| It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
"Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
> this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
> floppy disks? or removable disks?
>
> "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
> news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
> > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor
is
> > it
> > > used on most removable disks"
> > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
> exactly
> > > does this mean?
> >
> > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities available
> on
> > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
> >
> >
>
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| Kathy eninew-isbister 2002-06-28, 3:59 pm |
| thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is running
with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to format the
floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and format
it with that machine? Is that right??
"RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
news:W7WM8.210438$GG6.16879437@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
>
> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
> > this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
> > floppy disks? or removable disks?
> >
> > "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
> > news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
> > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,
nor
> is
> > > it
> > > > used on most removable disks"
> > > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
> > exactly
> > > > does this mean?
> > >
> > > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities
available
> > on
> > > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
> > >
> > >
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| On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:07:15 GMT, "Kathy eninew-isbister"
<eninew@hotmail.com> wrote:
>thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is running
>with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to format the
>floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and format
>it with that machine? Is that right??
nope, just stick it in, right click on the A: drive and format it with
the FAT file system
>
>"RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
>news:W7WM8.210438$GG6.16879437@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
>>
>> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it. does
>> > this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
>> > floppy disks? or removable disks?
>> >
>> > "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
>> > news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
>> > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> > > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,
>nor
>> is
>> > > it
>> > > > used on most removable disks"
>> > > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
>> > exactly
>> > > > does this mean?
>> > >
>> > > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities
> available
>> > on
>> > > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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| no when you format a floppy in Windows it is automatically formatted FAT
file system.
Rod
A+, Network+
"Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7uWM8.120139$Ka.8507752@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is running
> with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to format the
> floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and format
> it with that machine? Is that right??
>
>
> "RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
> news:W7WM8.210438$GG6.16879437@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
> >
> > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask it.
does[
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> > > this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save anything on
> > > floppy disks? or removable disks?
> > >
> > > "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
> > > news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
> > > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,
> nor
> > is
> > > > it
> > > > > used on most removable disks"
> > > > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
> > > exactly
> > > > > does this mean?
> > > >
> > > > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities
> available
> > > on
> > > > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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| Peter Larsen 2002-06-28, 4:00 pm |
| Kathy eninew-isbister wrote:
> thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system
> is running with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies,
> but if i had to format the floppy, i would have to take it
> to another system running fat32 and format
> it with that machine? Is that right??
No. Your system ALWAYS uses FAT12 on floppies. It is capable of using
FAT12, FAT16, FAT32 or NTFS on a harddisk and it will always use CDFS
on CD-media, unless they are audio CD's. See also
http://www.webopedia.com; no affiliation of any kind.
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| Peter Larsen 2002-06-28, 4:00 pm |
| Kathy eninew-isbister wrote:
> 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives,
NFTS itself takes up 5 megabytes minimum.
> nor is it used on most removable disks"
NFTS has more overhead and longer search times than FAT16 up to about
400 megabytes of disk space. File system security is also a questionable
advantage on a removable disk. If you send the newpaper to the printing
house on a removable disk, then you want them to be able to read the DtP
files so that they can make printing plates from them and print the
newspaper.
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| however, if you want to boot from the floppy to=20
....W2K, NT4, XP, then the floppy must be formatted from one of those (to =
seek ntldr)
....Win98, then the floppy must be formatted from DOS, Win9x (to seek =
IO.SYS)
"RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message =
news:Ye2N8.121918$Ka.8604162@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> no when you format a floppy in Windows it is automatically formatted =
FAT
> file system.
>=20
> Rod
> A+, Network+
>=20
>=20
> "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7uWM8.120139$Ka.8507752@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > thanks for you patience. i just want to clarify. if my system is =
running
> > with ntfs file system, i can save on floppies, but if i had to =
format the
> > floppy, i would have to take it to another system running fat32 and =
format
> > it with that machine? Is that right??
> >
> >
> > "RodB" <halcs@shaw.ca.remove> wrote in message
> > news:W7WM8.210438$GG6.16879437@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > It means a floppy can't be formatted with the NTFS file system.
> > >
> > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:LSVM8.119979$Ka.8492583@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > this is probably a really stupid question, but i just gotta ask =
it.
> does
> > > > this mean that if you use ntfs file system, you can't save =
anything on[co
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> > > > floppy disks? or removable disks?
> > > >
> > > > "Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:17UM8.18066$h%2.1172345@news2.west.cox.net...
> > > > > "Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > > > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy =[/color]
drives,
> > nor
> > > is
> > > > > it
> > > > > > used on most removable disks"
> > > > > > could someone please point me to more information about =
this? what[
color=darkred]
> > > > exactly
> > > > > > does this mean?
> > > > >
> > > > > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead but there are utilities
> > available
> > > > on
> > > > > the Internet to support NTFS on floppy and removable drives.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: =[/color]
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| 70-224 2002-06-28, 4:00 pm |
| "JimW" <JimWae-NO-SPAM-NO-Wae@hootmail.com> wrote in message
>however, if you want to boot from the floppy to
>...W2K, NT4, XP, then the floppy must be formatted from one of those (to
seek ntldr)
>...Win98, then the floppy must be formatted from DOS, Win9x (to seek
IO.SYS)
XP can lay down a MSDos type of boot disk with an IO.sys.... The boot disk
comes out think it came from Windows ME but it's better than 2000's
inability to do that at all.
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| Limp wristed Tony Orlando was here
"Kathy eninew-isbister" <eninew@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:N_TM8.119115$Ka.8453954@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is
it
> used on most removable disks"
> could someone please point me to more information about this? what exactly
> does this mean?
>
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
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| Thanks for the reminder
-- and it's in an intuitive place - not in Add-Remove Programs, but =
right there when you go to format the disk
"70-224" <Iggy@the.pop> wrote in message =
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> "JimW" <JimWae-NO-SPAM-NO-Wae@hootmail.com> wrote in message
> >however, if you want to boot from the floppy to
> >...W2K, NT4, XP, then the floppy must be formatted from one of those =
(to
> seek ntldr)
> >...Win98, then the floppy must be formatted from DOS, Win9x (to seek
> IO.SYS)
>=20
> XP can lay down a MSDos type of boot disk with an IO.sys.... The boot =
disk
> comes out think it came from Windows ME but it's better than 2000's
> inability to do that at all.
>=20
>=20
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| Laura A. Robinson 2002-06-28, 4:04 pm |
| circa Mon, 10 Jun 2002 02:26:05 GMT, in alt.certification.mcse, Andy
Barkl (abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com) said,
> > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is
> it
> > used on most removable disks"
> > could someone please point me to more information about this? what exactly
> > does this mean?
>
> The NT File System has a 50MB overhead
>
No, it doesn't. More like 5.
Laura
--
One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
-Tick, Strange Days
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| Tom MacIntyre 2002-06-28, 4:04 pm |
| On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 15:39:12 GMT, Laura A. Robinson
< firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote:
>circa Mon, 10 Jun 2002 02:26:05 GMT, in alt.certification.mcse, Andy
>Barkl (abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com) said,
>> > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor is
>> it
>> > used on most removable disks"
>> > could someone please point me to more information about this? what exactly
>> > does this mean?
>>
>> The NT File System has a 50MB overhead
>>
>No, it doesn't. More like 5.
>
>Laura
>--
>One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
>-Tick, Strange Days
I recently for the first time set up my hard drives as NTFS, switching
from FAT32, and I actually gained some space, based on before/after
free space numbers.
Tom
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| Andy Barkl 2002-06-28, 4:04 pm |
| "Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3d16251b.47405194@news.wolf...
> I recently for the first time set up my hard drives as NTFS, switching
> from FAT32, and I actually gained some space, based on before/after
> free space numbers.
>
> Tom
Smaller cluster size.
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| Andy Barkl 2002-06-28, 4:04 pm |
| "Laura A. Robinson" < firstinitiallastname@technolog
ist.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.177fb57cc1eadc598991c@news6.bellatlantic.net...
> circa Mon, 10 Jun 2002 02:26:05 GMT, in alt.certification.mcse, Andy
> Barkl (abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com) said,
> > > 'however, the ntfs file system is not supported by floppy drives, nor
is
> > it
> > > used on most removable disks"
> > > could someone please point me to more information about this? what
exactly
> > > does this mean?
> >
> > The NT File System has a 50MB overhead
> >
> No, it doesn't. More like 5.
>
> Laura
> --
> One man's mundane and boring existence is another man's Technicolor.
> -Tick, Strange Days
That's what I meant.
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| Tom MacIntyre 2002-06-28, 4:04 pm |
| On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 16:11:37 GMT, "Andy Barkl"
<abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote:
>"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3d16251b.47405194@news.wolf...
>> I recently for the first time set up my hard drives as NTFS, switching
>> from FAT32, and I actually gained some space, based on before/after
>> free space numbers.
>>
>> Tom
>
>Smaller cluster size.
>
>
Not sure...it was 4k with FAT32. I didn't even bother to check that
out. :-)
Tom
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