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barrylb

2002-09-28, 2:29 pm

Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text. Now
the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
linux partition.

Thanks


Bruce Burhans

2002-09-28, 2:29 pm


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

Now
> the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
> File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> linux partition.
>
> Thanks
>
>


Sounds like you need a Rescue floppy.....
Like Tomsbtrt......

http://freshmeat.net/redir/tomsrtbt/10688/url_homepage/

Boot up this little distro....

Then you mount the harddrive filesystems on
a mount point like /mnt (which has to be on the root filesystem on the
floppy ) and do whatever work
needs to be done on it....

something like

mount -t ext2 .dev/hda? /mnt

then /mnt/usr/bin/vi to edit (or whatever)


make sure your bios is set to boot from floppy
first.......

HTH

Bruce<+>





Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-28, 2:29 pm

barrylb <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote:
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text. Now
> the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.


Boot with "3" as a boot parameter.

Peter
Mike

2002-09-28, 2:29 pm

"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.


I'm not sure about Peanut, but for Mandrake level 4 is unused. level 5 is
used to start X.
--
Mike in Seattle
http://www.graphtablet.com --- Free GraphPaper for Students and Others



Richard Adams

2002-09-28, 2:29 pm

In article <Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "barrylb"
<barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote:

> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.
> Now the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text
> mode. File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant
> see the linux partition.
>
> Thanks
>
>


If this happens in most other distro's simply let the system boot as far
as it goes, then hit ctrl-alt-F6 (all in one go) login as root and simply
undo the changes you made to /etc/inittab.
Reboot and Bob's your uncle.

Then you may want to inspect /var/log/XFree86.X.log and see what went
wrong.

--
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Chris Share

2002-09-28, 2:29 pm

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:17:59 -0700, barrylb said:
>Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
>changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text. Now
>the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
>File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
>linux partition.
>
>Thanks


How do you boot linux then? Can it give options to the kernel? If so,
then just append the "single" option, to drop you into single user
mode.

chris
Mike

2002-09-28, 3:29 pm

"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.


I'm not sure about Peanut, but for Mandrake level 4 is unused. level 5 is
used to start X.
--
Mike in Seattle
http://www.graphtablet.com --- Free GraphPaper for Students and Others



Richard Adams

2002-09-28, 3:29 pm

In article <Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, "barrylb"
<barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote:

> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.
> Now the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text
> mode. File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant
> see the linux partition.
>
> Thanks
>
>


If this happens in most other distro's simply let the system boot as far
as it goes, then hit ctrl-alt-F6 (all in one go) login as root and simply
undo the changes you made to /etc/inittab.
Reboot and Bob's your uncle.

Then you may want to inspect /var/log/XFree86.X.log and see what went
wrong.

--
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Chris Share

2002-09-28, 3:29 pm

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 11:17:59 -0700, barrylb said:
>Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
>changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text. Now
>the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
>File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
>linux partition.
>
>Thanks


How do you boot linux then? Can it give options to the kernel? If so,
then just append the "single" option, to drop you into single user
mode.

chris
Sybren

2002-09-28, 3:29 pm

barrylb wrote:

> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.
> Now the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text
> mode. File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see
> the linux partition.
>
> Thanks


Load up your kernel with the 'init=/bin/sh' and you'll have a root shell in
no time. Remount it with

# mount / -o remount,rw

to get read/write access, then edit /etc/inittab. After that, remount again
read-only with

# mount / -o remount,ro

and type 'reboot' to reboot your system.

This might look like a long and tedious way to do it, but once you know this
stuff, you will hardly need a boot floppy ever again.

Sybren
Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-28, 3:29 pm

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> barrylb wrote:


>> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
>> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.
>> Now the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text
>> mode. File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see
>> the linux partition.


> Load up your kernel with the 'init=/bin/sh' and you'll have a root shell in
> no time. Remount it with


> # mount / -o remount,rw


This won't work, I think. You forgot a "-n" option, so that it doesn't try
writing /etc/mtab (which it can't):

mount -wno remount /

> to get read/write access, then edit /etc/inittab. After that, remount again
> read-only with


> # mount / -o remount,ro


and again, I suspect you need -n:

munt -nro remount /

> and type 'reboot' to reboot your system.


Yep.

> This might look like a long and tedious way to do it, but once you know this
> stuff, you will hardly need a boot floppy ever again.


Yep. He might have wanted to run e2fsck too.

Peter
Richard Adams

2002-09-28, 3:29 pm

In article <nfnl9.239411$Jo.95766@rwcrnsc53>, "Mike"
<michaeleve@attbi_nospam.com> wrote:

> "barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
> news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
>> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
>> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

>
> I'm not sure about Peanut, but for Mandrake level 4 is unused. level 5
> is used to start X.


AFAIK Peanut is based upon Slackware, Slackware defines init 4 as X, if
that is so and "barrylb" changed his runlevel from 3 to 4 and he "thinks"
his system is locked up, then he is mistaken, what he possably sees is
the following.

Fatal server error:
no xx xx xx found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full
server output, not just the last message.
This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree8686.0.log".
Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org

To get out of that he needs to do do what i said in my last mail on this
subject, hit, CTRL-ALT-F6, then login as root and undo his changes to
inittab.
There is in every distro i have ever seen the following, or something to
the same effect;

# Runlevel 4 used to be for an X window only system, until we discovered
# that it throws init into a loop that keeps your load avg at least 1 all
# the time. Thus, there is now one getty opened on tty6. Hopefully no one
# will notice. ;^)
# It might not be bad to have one text console anyway, in case something
# happens to X.
x1:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.4

Get it,.??

IMHO, there is no way that any linux system can "lockup" under those
curcumstancies, + there in no need to go and reboot with
boot/toot/rescuce disks, or init 1, 2 or 3 period.

> --
> Mike in Seattle
> http://www.graphtablet.com --- Free GraphPaper for Students and Others
>
>
>



--
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Sybren

2002-09-28, 3:29 pm

Peter T. Breuer wrote:

>> # mount / -o remount,rw

>
> This won't work, I think. You forgot a "-n" option, so that it doesn't try
> writing /etc/mtab (which it can't):


Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It will
work perfectly. If you only _think_ I'm wrong, try it out first before
doubting my words! We're trying to help a newbie here, not confuse him!

> Yep. He might have wanted to run e2fsck too.


If you mount it read-only, the filesystem gets synced and you won't need to
run e2fsck because no damage has been done what so ever.

What I said was a 100% GOOD method. As I said, I've done this a lot, and it
works all the time.

Sybren
Sybren

2002-09-28, 4:29 pm

barrylb wrote:

> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.
> Now the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text
> mode. File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see
> the linux partition.
>
> Thanks


Load up your kernel with the 'init=/bin/sh' and you'll have a root shell in
no time. Remount it with

# mount / -o remount,rw

to get read/write access, then edit /etc/inittab. After that, remount again
read-only with

# mount / -o remount,ro

and type 'reboot' to reboot your system.

This might look like a long and tedious way to do it, but once you know this
stuff, you will hardly need a boot floppy ever again.

Sybren
Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-28, 4:29 pm

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> barrylb wrote:


>> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
>> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.
>> Now the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text
>> mode. File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see
>> the linux partition.


> Load up your kernel with the 'init=/bin/sh' and you'll have a root shell in
> no time. Remount it with


> # mount / -o remount,rw


This won't work, I think. You forgot a "-n" option, so that it doesn't try
writing /etc/mtab (which it can't):

mount -wno remount /

> to get read/write access, then edit /etc/inittab. After that, remount again
> read-only with


> # mount / -o remount,ro


and again, I suspect you need -n:

munt -nro remount /

> and type 'reboot' to reboot your system.


Yep.

> This might look like a long and tedious way to do it, but once you know this
> stuff, you will hardly need a boot floppy ever again.


Yep. He might have wanted to run e2fsck too.

Peter
Richard Adams

2002-09-28, 4:29 pm

In article <nfnl9.239411$Jo.95766@rwcrnsc53>, "Mike"
<michaeleve@attbi_nospam.com> wrote:

> "barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
> news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
>> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
>> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

>
> I'm not sure about Peanut, but for Mandrake level 4 is unused. level 5
> is used to start X.


AFAIK Peanut is based upon Slackware, Slackware defines init 4 as X, if
that is so and "barrylb" changed his runlevel from 3 to 4 and he "thinks"
his system is locked up, then he is mistaken, what he possably sees is
the following.

Fatal server error:
no xx xx xx found

When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full
server output, not just the last message.
This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree8686.0.log".
Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org

To get out of that he needs to do do what i said in my last mail on this
subject, hit, CTRL-ALT-F6, then login as root and undo his changes to
inittab.
There is in every distro i have ever seen the following, or something to
the same effect;

# Runlevel 4 used to be for an X window only system, until we discovered
# that it throws init into a loop that keeps your load avg at least 1 all
# the time. Thus, there is now one getty opened on tty6. Hopefully no one
# will notice. ;^)
# It might not be bad to have one text console anyway, in case something
# happens to X.
x1:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc.4

Get it,.??

IMHO, there is no way that any linux system can "lockup" under those
curcumstancies, + there in no need to go and reboot with
boot/toot/rescuce disks, or init 1, 2 or 3 period.

> --
> Mike in Seattle
> http://www.graphtablet.com --- Free GraphPaper for Students and Others
>
>
>



--
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Sybren

2002-09-28, 4:29 pm

Peter T. Breuer wrote:

>> # mount / -o remount,rw

>
> This won't work, I think. You forgot a "-n" option, so that it doesn't try
> writing /etc/mtab (which it can't):


Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It will
work perfectly. If you only _think_ I'm wrong, try it out first before
doubting my words! We're trying to help a newbie here, not confuse him!

> Yep. He might have wanted to run e2fsck too.


If you mount it read-only, the filesystem gets synced and you won't need to
run e2fsck because no damage has been done what so ever.

What I said was a 100% GOOD method. As I said, I've done this a lot, and it
works all the time.

Sybren
Sybren

2002-09-28, 5:29 pm

Richard Adams wrote:

> IMHO, there is no way that any linux system can "lockup" under those
> curcumstancies, + there in no need to go and reboot with
> boot/toot/rescuce disks, or init 1, 2 or 3 period.


If there is no _need_ do take action XXXX, then it shouldn't be taken. I
agree.

A linux system _can_ lockup though, for instance due to faulty X drivers.

Sybren

Sybren

2002-09-28, 6:29 pm

Richard Adams wrote:

> IMHO, there is no way that any linux system can "lockup" under those
> curcumstancies, + there in no need to go and reboot with
> boot/toot/rescuce disks, or init 1, 2 or 3 period.


If there is no _need_ do take action XXXX, then it shouldn't be taken. I
agree.

A linux system _can_ lockup though, for instance due to faulty X drivers.

Sybren

Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-28, 6:29 pm

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:

[colo
r=darkred]
>>> # mount / -o remount,rw

>>
>> This won't work, I think. You forgot a "-n" option, so that it doesn't try
>> writing /etc/mtab (which it can't):
[/color]

> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It will


I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
did it last time. If for example, I do a grep -w mount on /etc/rcS.d/*,
I come up with:

/etc/rcS.d/S10checkroot.sh:mount -n -o remount,$rootopts /
/etc/rcS.d/S10checkroot.sh: mount -f -o remount,$rootopts /


> work perfectly. If you only _think_ I'm wrong, try it out first before
> doubting my words! We're trying to help a newbie here, not confuse him!


What I am saying does not confuse him. Would you like me to say it
again? "use -n" (it does no harm).

>> Yep. He might have wanted to run e2fsck too.


> If you mount it read-only, the filesystem gets synced and you won't need to


FIRST. Not last.

> run e2fsck because no damage has been done what so ever.


I understand you (you are avoiding a sync by remount ro), but you are
not addresssing what I am saying. Not that it matters.

> What I said was a 100% GOOD method. As I said, I've done this a lot, and it
> works all the time.


Check! I am still partial to the theory that mount -wno remount / (with
-n) must be run when / is already ro. This is what the man page says:


-n Mount without writing in /etc/mtab. This is neces
sary for example when /etc is on a read-only file
system.

And the example eactly matches the intended use. What's the betting
that IF you manage it without -n, then it's because you are using a
version of mount that has been modified to recognize the root fs?

Peter
barrylb

2002-09-28, 6:29 pm

Well thanks to all for repling so fast......up and running again, again
thanks!!!

Way to go guys!


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

Now
> the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
> File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> linux partition.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Bruce Burhans

2002-09-28, 6:29 pm


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:nPql9.13817$H67.64141@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Well thanks to all for repling so fast......up and running again, again
> thanks!!!
>
> Way to go guys!



Good news!

But wait! What method did you use? Please
tell us the steps..

I for one am taking notes..............


Bruce<+>







>
>
> "barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
> news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> > Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> > changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

> Now
> > the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text

mode.
> > File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> > linux partition.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>
>


Sybren

2002-09-28, 6:29 pm

Peter T. Breuer wrote:

>> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It
>> will

>
> I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
> did it last time.


look, if you want to add some extra checks to the command to make _extra_
sure it works, fine. Don't insult me, though. I've used Linux for over five
years now, that means that I've used Linux for more than half of its
existence. I have a lot of experience, a good brain, and I've helped a lot
of people. If you can clearly state that I'm wrong, go ahead and correct
me. But don't tell me I've forgotten things.

What I told in my first post _works_ on RedHat, Debian, SuSe and Mandrake,
so I can assume it works on every major Linux distribution. You want to be
sure? I _am_ sure: every time I used this method, it worked without a flaw,
it has _never_ gone wrong.

If you're only here to insult people, go to some microsoft newsgroup, where
you clearly belong. As far as I can see, you're only reading a manual page,
and you think that all the wisdom in the world ends there. Well, think
again.

Sybren

Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-28, 7:29 pm

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:

[colo
r=darkred]
>>> # mount / -o remount,rw

>>
>> This won't work, I think. You forgot a "-n" option, so that it doesn't try
>> writing /etc/mtab (which it can't):
[/color]

> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It will


I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
did it last time. If for example, I do a grep -w mount on /etc/rcS.d/*,
I come up with:

/etc/rcS.d/S10checkroot.sh:mount -n -o remount,$rootopts /
/etc/rcS.d/S10checkroot.sh: mount -f -o remount,$rootopts /


> work perfectly. If you only _think_ I'm wrong, try it out first before
> doubting my words! We're trying to help a newbie here, not confuse him!


What I am saying does not confuse him. Would you like me to say it
again? "use -n" (it does no harm).

>> Yep. He might have wanted to run e2fsck too.


> If you mount it read-only, the filesystem gets synced and you won't need to


FIRST. Not last.

> run e2fsck because no damage has been done what so ever.


I understand you (you are avoiding a sync by remount ro), but you are
not addresssing what I am saying. Not that it matters.

> What I said was a 100% GOOD method. As I said, I've done this a lot, and it
> works all the time.


Check! I am still partial to the theory that mount -wno remount / (with
-n) must be run when / is already ro. This is what the man page says:


-n Mount without writing in /etc/mtab. This is neces
sary for example when /etc is on a read-only file
system.

And the example eactly matches the intended use. What's the betting
that IF you manage it without -n, then it's because you are using a
version of mount that has been modified to recognize the root fs?

Peter
barrylb

2002-09-28, 7:29 pm

Well thanks to all for repling so fast......up and running again, again
thanks!!!

Way to go guys!


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

Now
> the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
> File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> linux partition.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Bruce Burhans

2002-09-28, 7:29 pm


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:nPql9.13817$H67.64141@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Well thanks to all for repling so fast......up and running again, again
> thanks!!!
>
> Way to go guys!



Good news!

But wait! What method did you use? Please
tell us the steps..

I for one am taking notes..............


Bruce<+>







>
>
> "barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
> news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> > Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> > changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

> Now
> > the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text

mode.
> > File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> > linux partition.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>
>


Sybren

2002-09-28, 7:29 pm

Peter T. Breuer wrote:

>> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It
>> will

>
> I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
> did it last time.


look, if you want to add some extra checks to the command to make _extra_
sure it works, fine. Don't insult me, though. I've used Linux for over five
years now, that means that I've used Linux for more than half of its
existence. I have a lot of experience, a good brain, and I've helped a lot
of people. If you can clearly state that I'm wrong, go ahead and correct
me. But don't tell me I've forgotten things.

What I told in my first post _works_ on RedHat, Debian, SuSe and Mandrake,
so I can assume it works on every major Linux distribution. You want to be
sure? I _am_ sure: every time I used this method, it worked without a flaw,
it has _never_ gone wrong.

If you're only here to insult people, go to some microsoft newsgroup, where
you clearly belong. As far as I can see, you're only reading a manual page,
and you think that all the wisdom in the world ends there. Well, think
again.

Sybren

Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-29, 12:30 am

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:

[colo
r=darkred]
>>> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It
>>> will

>>
>> I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
>> did it last time.
[/color]

> look, if you want to add some extra checks to the command to make _extra_
> sure it works, fine. Don't insult me, though. I've used Linux for over five


Look, you twit, I am NOT insulting you. Suggesting that you may be
wrong is NOT an insult, it is a point for discussion! I clearly
labelled my point as opinion too!

> years now, that means that I've used Linux for more than half of its
> existence. I have a lot of experience, a good brain, and I've helped a lot
> of people. If you can clearly state that I'm wrong, go ahead and correct
> me. But don't tell me I've forgotten things.


You are wrong. OK? And you have forgotten things. I.e. I 'll %(/%% well
tell you what I want and you can quit jumping up and down like a
half-arsed pantyhose. If you have a problem with what I tell you, then
make a technical discussion out of it, and stop snorting and inhaling
snot, or whatever you do when your fits happen.

> What I told in my first post _works_ on RedHat, Debian, SuSe and Mandrake,


Good. Now tell me /why/, because it ought not to, as both /I/ and
the /manual page/ can tell you! And here is the proof:


oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to override)
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%



> so I can assume it works on every major Linux distribution. You want to be


No you cannot.

> sure? I _am_ sure: every time I used this method, it worked without a flaw,
> it has _never_ gone wrong.


Well I'm afraid you just found out the flaw in inductive reasoning.


> If you're only here to insult people, go to some microsoft newsgroup, where


Yep, I'm here to insult IDIOTs.

> you clearly belong. As far as I can see, you're only reading a manual page,
> and you think that all the wisdom in the world ends there. Well, think
> again.


What I luuuuve are idiots who think they're not.

Peter
Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-29, 1:30 am

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> Peter T. Breuer wrote:

[colo
r=darkred]
>>> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times. It
>>> will

>>
>> I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
>> did it last time.
[/color]

> look, if you want to add some extra checks to the command to make _extra_
> sure it works, fine. Don't insult me, though. I've used Linux for over five


Look, you twit, I am NOT insulting you. Suggesting that you may be
wrong is NOT an insult, it is a point for discussion! I clearly
labelled my point as opinion too!

> years now, that means that I've used Linux for more than half of its
> existence. I have a lot of experience, a good brain, and I've helped a lot
> of people. If you can clearly state that I'm wrong, go ahead and correct
> me. But don't tell me I've forgotten things.


You are wrong. OK? And you have forgotten things. I.e. I 'll %(/%% well
tell you what I want and you can quit jumping up and down like a
half-arsed pantyhose. If you have a problem with what I tell you, then
make a technical discussion out of it, and stop snorting and inhaling
snot, or whatever you do when your fits happen.

> What I told in my first post _works_ on RedHat, Debian, SuSe and Mandrake,


Good. Now tell me /why/, because it ought not to, as both /I/ and
the /manual page/ can tell you! And here is the proof:


oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to override)
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%



> so I can assume it works on every major Linux distribution. You want to be


No you cannot.

> sure? I _am_ sure: every time I used this method, it worked without a flaw,
> it has _never_ gone wrong.


Well I'm afraid you just found out the flaw in inductive reasoning.


> If you're only here to insult people, go to some microsoft newsgroup, where


Yep, I'm here to insult IDIOTs.

> you clearly belong. As far as I can see, you're only reading a manual page,
> and you think that all the wisdom in the world ends there. Well, think
> again.


What I luuuuve are idiots who think they're not.

Peter
Bruce Burhans

2002-09-29, 2:29 am








"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:k446na.21r.ln@news.it.uc3m.es...
> Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> > Peter T. Breuer wrote:

>
> >>> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times.

It[co
lor=darkred]
> >>> will
> >>
> >> I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
> >> did it last time.

>
> > look, if you want to add some extra checks to the command to make
[/color]
_extra_
> > sure it works, fine. Don't insult me, though. I've used Linux for over

five
>
> Look, you twit, I am NOT insulting you. Suggesting that you may be
> wrong is NOT an insult, it is a point for discussion! I clearly
> labelled my point as opinion too!
>
> > years now, that means that I've used Linux for more than half of its
> > existence. I have a lot of experience, a good brain, and I've helped a

lot
> > of people. If you can clearly state that I'm wrong, go ahead and correct
> > me. But don't tell me I've forgotten things.

>
> You are wrong. OK? And you have forgotten things. I.e. I 'll %(/%% well
> tell you what I want and you can quit jumping up and down like a
> half-arsed pantyhose. If you have a problem with what I tell you, then
> make a technical discussion out of it, and stop snorting and inhaling
> snot, or whatever you do when your fits happen.
>
> > What I told in my first post _works_ on RedHat, Debian, SuSe and

Mandrake,
>
> Good. Now tell me /why/, because it ought not to, as both /I/ and
> the /manual page/ can tell you! And here is the proof:
>
>
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
> can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to

override)
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%
>
>
>
> > so I can assume it works on every major Linux distribution. You want to

be
>
> No you cannot.
>
> > sure? I _am_ sure: every time I used this method, it worked without a

flaw,

> > it has _never_ gone wrong.

>
> Well I'm afraid you just found out the flaw in inductive reasoning.
>
>
> > If you're only here to insult people, go to some microsoft newsgroup,

where
>
> Yep, I'm here to insult IDIOTs.
>
> > you clearly belong. As far as I can see, you're only reading a manual

page,

> > and you think that all the wisdom in the world ends there. Well, think
> > again.

>
> What I luuuuve are idiots who think they're not.
>
> Peter
>



Guess you have just added another person
to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
directed to them......

Don't reply.....I am on that list too.....Remember
the way you abused me because the mighty
Peter didn't think that a newbie of a few months
that hadn't compiled a program from source had
a right to exist?

Well I'm still here, and you can still kiss my XXX..


Bruce<+>











Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-29, 2:29 am

Bruce Burhans <bburhan1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[ptb wrote]
>> Good. Now tell me /why/, because it ought not to, as both /I/ and
>> the /manual page/ can tell you! And here is the proof:
>>
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
>> can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to override)
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%



> Guess you have just added another person
> to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
> directed to them......


Oooh, I dunno. Seemed like quite a reasonable person to me.

> Don't reply.....I am on that list too.....Remember


Mmmm, shumshing worng here I shink.

> the way you abused me because the mighty
> Peter didn't think that a newbie of a few months


Nope. Sorry.

> that hadn't compiled a program from source had
> a right to exist?


You? Right? Exist? Do those words make sense? Together?

> Well I'm still here, and you can still kiss my XXX..


Ugh, no thanks. Find some other monkey.

Peter
Bruce Burhans

2002-09-29, 3:29 am








"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:k446na.21r.ln@news.it.uc3m.es...
> Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> > Peter T. Breuer wrote:

>
> >>> Yes, this will work. Come on dude, i've done this a few dozen times.

It[co
lor=darkred]
> >>> will
> >>
> >> I'm not so sure you have. I think you may have forgotten it since you
> >> did it last time.

>
> > look, if you want to add some extra checks to the command to make
[/color]
_extra_
> > sure it works, fine. Don't insult me, though. I've used Linux for over

five
>
> Look, you twit, I am NOT insulting you. Suggesting that you may be
> wrong is NOT an insult, it is a point for discussion! I clearly
> labelled my point as opinion too!
>
> > years now, that means that I've used Linux for more than half of its
> > existence. I have a lot of experience, a good brain, and I've helped a

lot
> > of people. If you can clearly state that I'm wrong, go ahead and correct
> > me. But don't tell me I've forgotten things.

>
> You are wrong. OK? And you have forgotten things. I.e. I 'll %(/%% well
> tell you what I want and you can quit jumping up and down like a
> half-arsed pantyhose. If you have a problem with what I tell you, then
> make a technical discussion out of it, and stop snorting and inhaling
> snot, or whatever you do when your fits happen.
>
> > What I told in my first post _works_ on RedHat, Debian, SuSe and

Mandrake,
>
> Good. Now tell me /why/, because it ought not to, as both /I/ and
> the /manual page/ can tell you! And here is the proof:
>
>
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
> can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to

override)
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%
>
>
>
> > so I can assume it works on every major Linux distribution. You want to

be
>
> No you cannot.
>
> > sure? I _am_ sure: every time I used this method, it worked without a

flaw,

> > it has _never_ gone wrong.

>
> Well I'm afraid you just found out the flaw in inductive reasoning.
>
>
> > If you're only here to insult people, go to some microsoft newsgroup,

where
>
> Yep, I'm here to insult IDIOTs.
>
> > you clearly belong. As far as I can see, you're only reading a manual

page,

> > and you think that all the wisdom in the world ends there. Well, think
> > again.

>
> What I luuuuve are idiots who think they're not.
>
> Peter
>



Guess you have just added another person
to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
directed to them......

Don't reply.....I am on that list too.....Remember
the way you abused me because the mighty
Peter didn't think that a newbie of a few months
that hadn't compiled a program from source had
a right to exist?

Well I'm still here, and you can still kiss my XXX..


Bruce<+>











Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-29, 3:29 am

Bruce Burhans <bburhan1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>[ptb wrote]
>> Good. Now tell me /why/, because it ought not to, as both /I/ and
>> the /manual page/ can tell you! And here is the proof:
>>
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
>> can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to override)
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
>> oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%



> Guess you have just added another person
> to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
> directed to them......


Oooh, I dunno. Seemed like quite a reasonable person to me.

> Don't reply.....I am on that list too.....Remember


Mmmm, shumshing worng here I shink.

> the way you abused me because the mighty
> Peter didn't think that a newbie of a few months


Nope. Sorry.

> that hadn't compiled a program from source had
> a right to exist?


You? Right? Exist? Do those words make sense? Together?

> Well I'm still here, and you can still kiss my XXX..


Ugh, no thanks. Find some other monkey.

Peter
Richard Adams

2002-09-29, 4:29 am

In article < 3d962de4$0$9884$e4fe514c@dread
er1.news.xs4all.nl>, "Sybren"
<sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:

> Richard Adams wrote:
>
>> IMHO, there is no way that any linux system can "lockup" under those
>> curcumstancies, + there in no need to go and reboot with
>> boot/toot/rescuce disks, or init 1, 2 or 3 period.

>
> If there is no _need_ do take action XXXX, then it shouldn't be taken. I
> agree.
>
> A linux system _can_ lockup though, for instance due to faulty X
> drivers.


There again in most cases when X locks up as one calls it, then the
kernel is normally still running, the way out in 90% of cases is to hit;
ctrl-alt-backspace that should kill X and return you to a console where
you can repair whatever needs to be repaired.

> Sybren
>



--
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Richard Adams

2002-09-29, 5:29 am

In article < 3d962de4$0$9884$e4fe514c@dread
er1.news.xs4all.nl>, "Sybren"
<sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:

> Richard Adams wrote:
>
>> IMHO, there is no way that any linux system can "lockup" under those
>> curcumstancies, + there in no need to go and reboot with
>> boot/toot/rescuce disks, or init 1, 2 or 3 period.

>
> If there is no _need_ do take action XXXX, then it shouldn't be taken. I
> agree.
>
> A linux system _can_ lockup though, for instance due to faulty X
> drivers.


There again in most cases when X locks up as one calls it, then the
kernel is normally still running, the way out in 90% of cases is to hit;
ctrl-alt-backspace that should kill X and return you to a console where
you can repair whatever needs to be repaired.

> Sybren
>



--
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Sybren

2002-09-29, 5:29 am

Bruce Burhans wrote:
> Guess you have just added another person
> to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
> directed to them......


Yep, I'll just put Peter on my ignore list and have it done with. Thanx for
the tip.

Sybren

Sybren

2002-09-29, 5:29 am

Richard Adams wrote:

> There again in most cases when X locks up as one calls it, then the
> kernel is normally still running, the way out in 90% of cases is to hit;
> ctrl-alt-backspace that should kill X and return you to a console where
> you can repair whatever needs to be repaired.


True, true.

Sybren

Sybren

2002-09-29, 6:29 am

Bruce Burhans wrote:
> Guess you have just added another person
> to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
> directed to them......


Yep, I'll just put Peter on my ignore list and have it done with. Thanx for
the tip.

Sybren

Sybren

2002-09-29, 6:29 am

Richard Adams wrote:

> There again in most cases when X locks up as one calls it, then the
> kernel is normally still running, the way out in 90% of cases is to hit;
> ctrl-alt-backspace that should kill X and return you to a console where
> you can repair whatever needs to be repaired.


True, true.

Sybren

Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-29, 6:29 am

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> Bruce Burhans wrote:
>> Guess you have just added another person
>> to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
>> directed to them......


> Yep, I'll just put Peter on my ignore list and have it done with. Thanx for
> the tip.


If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
only what you know.

The facts have already disagreed with you. I have no idea why you
take offence at my saying that -n is never harmful and sometimes
necessary (and my demonstration that it is) in the sequence you propose,
or why you claim that you are insulted by that, but I'm afraid that's
the way it is. That's all.

Here you have the demonstration one more time:

oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to override)
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%

Now put THAT in your killfile.


Peter
Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-29, 7:29 am

Sybren <sybrenUSE@yourthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote:
> Bruce Burhans wrote:
>> Guess you have just added another person
>> to the list of those who ignore any posts by you
>> directed to them......


> Yep, I'll just put Peter on my ignore list and have it done with. Thanx for
> the tip.


If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
only what you know.

The facts have already disagreed with you. I have no idea why you
take offence at my saying that -n is never harmful and sometimes
necessary (and my demonstration that it is) in the sequence you propose,
or why you claim that you are insulted by that, but I'm afraid that's
the way it is. That's all.

Here you have the demonstration one more time:

oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -rno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wo remount /
can't create lock file /etc/mtab~: Read-only file system (use -n flag to override)
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb% sudo mount -wno remount /
oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb%

Now put THAT in your killfile.


Peter
barrylb

2002-09-29, 11:29 am

Again thanks guys!

Being new to linux and now that I am up and running again I was just
wondering why my system would not responed correctly under the X platform. I
know I am using old equipment but I thought a standard SVGA card and monitor
would have no problems with is GUI.
Just thinking out loud...anyone else out there using Peanut?


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

Now
> the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
> File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> linux partition.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Bruce Burhans

2002-09-29, 11:29 am


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:zHFl9.13918$H67.64373@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Again thanks guys!
>
> Being new to linux and now that I am up and running again I was just
> wondering why my system would not responed correctly under the X platform.

I
> know I am using old equipment but I thought a standard SVGA card and

monitor
> would have no problems with is GUI.
> Just thinking out loud...anyone else out there using Peanut?
>


Once again: Please tell us the exact steps you used to fix the
first problem.....

These threads are not just for the OP, they are
for everyone and the archives....

Bruce<+>



>
> "barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
> news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> > Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> > changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

> Now
> > the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text

mode.
> > File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> > linux partition.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>
>


barrylb

2002-09-29, 12:29 pm

Again thanks guys!

Being new to linux and now that I am up and running again I was just
wondering why my system would not responed correctly under the X platform. I
know I am using old equipment but I thought a standard SVGA card and monitor
would have no problems with is GUI.
Just thinking out loud...anyone else out there using Peanut?


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

Now
> the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text mode.
> File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> linux partition.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Bruce Burhans

2002-09-29, 12:29 pm


"barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:zHFl9.13918$H67.64373@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> Again thanks guys!
>
> Being new to linux and now that I am up and running again I was just
> wondering why my system would not responed correctly under the X platform.

I
> know I am using old equipment but I thought a standard SVGA card and

monitor
> would have no problems with is GUI.
> Just thinking out loud...anyone else out there using Peanut?
>


Once again: Please tell us the exact steps you used to fix the
first problem.....

These threads are not just for the OP, they are
for everyone and the archives....

Bruce<+>



>
> "barrylb" <barrylb@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
> news:Ykml9.13787$H67.64060@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> > Everything worked fine until I used edit to change the inittab file. I
> > changed the id:3 to id:4 to try the graphics mode rather than the text.

> Now
> > the system hangs how to I get to this file to change it back to text

mode.
> > File is on a linux partition and I am booting from dos and cant see the
> > linux partition.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>
>
>


karen

2002-09-29, 6:30 pm

If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
only what you know.


This is very true, and he does have a brain worthy of picking. You just
have to get over the anti-social rudeness that comes with the advice.
It is quite amusing though......

--
Regards
Karen

Women are not supposed to snore, burp, sweat, swear or pass gas.
Therefore we must XXXXX or we will blow up.

To reply remove nospam from address



karen

2002-09-29, 7:29 pm

If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
only what you know.


This is very true, and he does have a brain worthy of picking. You just
have to get over the anti-social rudeness that comes with the advice.
It is quite amusing though......

--
Regards
Karen

Women are not supposed to snore, burp, sweat, swear or pass gas.
Therefore we must XXXXX or we will blow up.

To reply remove nospam from address



Bruce Burhans

2002-09-29, 10:30 pm


"karen" <barnabasnospam@norcom.net.au> wrote in message
news:3D978EC0.8050400@norcom.net.au...
> If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
> yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
> only what you know.
>
>
> This is very true, and he does have a brain worthy of picking. You just
> have to get over the anti-social rudeness that comes with the advice.
> It is quite amusing though......
>
> --
> Regards
> Karen
>
> Women are not supposed to snore, burp, sweat, swear or pass gas.
> Therefore we must XXXXX or we will blow up.
>
> To reply remove nospam from address
>
>
>
>


There are PLENTY of people aroung who
are as, or more, knowledgable than he is....
And you cannot trust egos like his, who
would rather be right than to help others..
They are here to make themselves look
superior and breed dependency, NOT to help
others.....

He's about as amusing as a quadrapalegic
child.
What else do you laugh at?


Bruce<+>








Bruce Burhans

2002-09-29, 11:29 pm


"karen" <barnabasnospam@norcom.net.au> wrote in message
news:3D978EC0.8050400@norcom.net.au...
> If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
> yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
> only what you know.
>
>
> This is very true, and he does have a brain worthy of picking. You just
> have to get over the anti-social rudeness that comes with the advice.
> It is quite amusing though......
>
> --
> Regards
> Karen
>
> Women are not supposed to snore, burp, sweat, swear or pass gas.
> Therefore we must XXXXX or we will blow up.
>
> To reply remove nospam from address
>
>
>
>


There are PLENTY of people aroung who
are as, or more, knowledgable than he is....
And you cannot trust egos like his, who
would rather be right than to help others..
They are here to make themselves look
superior and breed dependency, NOT to help
others.....

He's about as amusing as a quadrapalegic
child.
What else do you laugh at?


Bruce<+>








Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-29, 11:30 pm

Bruce Burhans <bburhan1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "karen" <barnabasnospam@norcom.net.au> wrote in message
> news:3D978EC0.8050400@norcom.net.au...
>> If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
>> yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
>> only what you know.



> There are PLENTY of people aroung who
> are as, or more, knowledgable than he is....


Would you mind telling me how /I/ an supposed to be the aggrieving
party here? If you check the posts you'll see that person (A)
posted a method of booting in rescue mode, and that I suggested
(politely) that he might need a -n on his mount command. Person
(A) then posted back that how dare I insult him, that he had 5 years
of unix experience, and that he had personally tried this method!
I posted back telling him to get off his high horse and deal with
technical questions as though they were technical questions, not
personal insults, and posted a sequence of three commands showing
that his suggestion would fail!

> And you cannot trust egos like his, who
> would rather be right than to help others..


Err ... you can trust me to be /right/. If that means /your/ ego
is bruised, I'm sorry.

> They are here to make themselves look
> superior and breed dependency, NOT to help
> others.....


Whatinhell are you crying about?

Peter
Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-30, 12:29 am

Bruce Burhans <bburhan1@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "karen" <barnabasnospam@norcom.net.au> wrote in message
> news:3D978EC0.8050400@norcom.net.au...
>> If you insist on being insulted when people disagree with you, then
>> yur list will grow large, and you will restrict yourself to knowing
>> only what you know.



> There are PLENTY of people aroung who
> are as, or more, knowledgable than he is....


Would you mind telling me how /I/ an supposed to be the aggrieving
party here? If you check the posts you'll see that person (A)
posted a method of booting in rescue mode, and that I suggested
(politely) that he might need a -n on his mount command. Person
(A) then posted back that how dare I insult him, that he had 5 years
of unix experience, and that he had personally tried this method!
I posted back telling him to get off his high horse and deal with
technical questions as though they were technical questions, not
personal insults, and posted a sequence of three commands showing
that his suggestion would fail!

> And you cannot trust egos like his, who
> would rather be right than to help others..


Err ... you can trust me to be /right/. If that means /your/ ego
is bruised, I'm sorry.

> They are here to make themselves look
> superior and breed dependency, NOT to help
> others.....


Whatinhell are you crying about?

Peter
karen

2002-09-30, 4:28 am

You mistake me Bruce. What I laugh at is how Peter manages to provoke so
many people into verbal bun fights with his high handedness(and the
resulting hoo-haa that follows). Makes for good reading....
Yes, you are correct in saying we are all here to help each other, I
myself have had heaps of help from the good folk within this (and other)
newsgroups. (As I have also felt the wrath of Mr. Breuer as a newbie.)
Have fun, don't take things so seroiusly. Ooh look a spelling mistake Peter.
--
Regards
Karen

Women are not supposed to snore, burp, sweat, swear or pass gas.
Therefore we must XXXXX or we will blow up.

To reply remove nospam from address



Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-30, 4:29 am

karen <barnabasnospam@norcom.net.au> wrote:
> newsgroups. (As I have also felt the wrath of Mr. Breuer as a newbie.)
> Have fun, don't take things so seroiusly. Ooh look a spelling mistake Peter.


I am not a spelling mistake, I am a free man.

(oh, and yes, I know/saw what you meant!).

Well, maybe I am a man with sand in his keyboard.

Peter
karen

2002-09-30, 5:28 am

You mistake me Bruce. What I laugh at is how Peter manages to provoke so
many people into verbal bun fights with his high handedness(and the
resulting hoo-haa that follows). Makes for good reading....
Yes, you are correct in saying we are all here to help each other, I
myself have had heaps of help from the good folk within this (and other)
newsgroups. (As I have also felt the wrath of Mr. Breuer as a newbie.)
Have fun, don't take things so seroiusly. Ooh look a spelling mistake Peter.
--
Regards
Karen

Women are not supposed to snore, burp, sweat, swear or pass gas.
Therefore we must XXXXX or we will blow up.

To reply remove nospam from address



Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-30, 5:28 am

karen <barnabasnospam@norcom.net.au> wrote:
> newsgroups. (As I have also felt the wrath of Mr. Breuer as a newbie.)
> Have fun, don't take things so seroiusly. Ooh look a spelling mistake Peter.


I am not a spelling mistake, I am a free man.

(oh, and yes, I know/saw what you meant!).

Well, maybe I am a man with sand in his keyboard.

Peter
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