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Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-12, 3:28 am

jgar@online.no wrote:
> boots fine and everything looks ok, except that the eth0 is not
> installed/detected.


It shouldn't be. Load the driver for it and configure the interface.

> How do i detect and install my eth0 card so i can download apt's?


You don't. You load the driver for it and configure the interface.
There are probably fancy deb scripts for this, but why bother? Look in
your /etc/init.d/networking script and see what it wants. After adding
an alias for eth0 to /etc/modules.conf with update-modules, you want
to put the machine IP details in /etc/hosts and somewhere where ifup eth0
will find them.

> The pc is quite old, but RedHat 6.2 found the card (3COM 3c 509) during


That's an isa card. You need to turn off PnP on the card and load the
3c509 module.

> setup so it's not that old.


> I am really hoping someone would help me with this.
> If there is anything else u kneed to know please mail me or reply to this


Well, like do you have a static IP or not? If it's served via dhcp, you
need to run a dhcp client.

Peter
Andy

2002-09-12, 3:28 am


Warning some paths in this explinatoin will need to be checked

"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:t7ipla.a0g.ln@news.it.uc3m.es...
> jgar@online.no wrote:
> > boots fine and everything looks ok, except that the eth0 is not
> > installed/detected.

>


try apt-get install networking (or similar)

> It shouldn't be. Load the driver for it and configure the interface.
>


The install did for me ?!?!?! but i had to add a second

> > How do i detect and install my eth0 card so i can download apt's?


ahhh, okay I see your problem you can apt. Okay did you use a cd there you
can still do the first step.

if not "modprobe 3c509" to load the module

>
> You don't. You load the driver for it and configure the interface.
> There are probably fancy deb scripts for this, but why bother? Look in
> your /etc/init.d/networking script and see what it wants.


err well /etc/init.d/networking looks at the /etc/network/interfaces file

which from memory looks like this.

auto eth0
interface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.4
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway ....


>After adding
> an alias for eth0 to /etc/modules.conf with update-modules, you want


eeek, on debian put it in /etc/modutils/alias (or it my be in a sub
directory)

then run update-modules which puts it in /etc/modules.conf

> to put the machine IP details in /etc/hosts and somewhere where ifup eth0
> will find them.
>


when you start /etc/init.d/networking start it will pick all this up from
the interfraces file

>
> > The pc is quite old, but RedHat 6.2 found the card (3COM 3c 509) during

>
> That's an isa card. You need to turn off PnP on the card and load the
> 3c509 module.
>


I have one that was detect but mine is not running in pnp mode it was
disable when I got it. If however it worked under redhat and connect to
places it is already off.
remember thought the 3c509 module will need to be give the irq info etc.

> > setup so it's not that old.

>
> > I am really hoping someone would help me with this.
> > If there is anything else u kneed to know please mail me or reply to

this
>
> Well, like do you have a static IP or not? If it's served via dhcp, you
> need to run a dhcp client.
>


install pump or dhclient for this and change the word static in
/etc/network/interfaces to dhcp and remove the pointless options.

Andy


Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-12, 4:28 am

jgar@online.no wrote:
> boots fine and everything looks ok, except that the eth0 is not
> installed/detected.


It shouldn't be. Load the driver for it and configure the interface.

> How do i detect and install my eth0 card so i can download apt's?


You don't. You load the driver for it and configure the interface.
There are probably fancy deb scripts for this, but why bother? Look in
your /etc/init.d/networking script and see what it wants. After adding
an alias for eth0 to /etc/modules.conf with update-modules, you want
to put the machine IP details in /etc/hosts and somewhere where ifup eth0
will find them.

> The pc is quite old, but RedHat 6.2 found the card (3COM 3c 509) during


That's an isa card. You need to turn off PnP on the card and load the
3c509 module.

> setup so it's not that old.


> I am really hoping someone would help me with this.
> If there is anything else u kneed to know please mail me or reply to this


Well, like do you have a static IP or not? If it's served via dhcp, you
need to run a dhcp client.

Peter
Andy

2002-09-12, 4:28 am


Warning some paths in this explinatoin will need to be checked

"Peter T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:t7ipla.a0g.ln@news.it.uc3m.es...
> jgar@online.no wrote:
> > boots fine and everything looks ok, except that the eth0 is not
> > installed/detected.

>


try apt-get install networking (or similar)

> It shouldn't be. Load the driver for it and configure the interface.
>


The install did for me ?!?!?! but i had to add a second

> > How do i detect and install my eth0 card so i can download apt's?


ahhh, okay I see your problem you can apt. Okay did you use a cd there you
can still do the first step.

if not "modprobe 3c509" to load the module

>
> You don't. You load the driver for it and configure the interface.
> There are probably fancy deb scripts for this, but why bother? Look in
> your /etc/init.d/networking script and see what it wants.


err well /etc/init.d/networking looks at the /etc/network/interfaces file

which from memory looks like this.

auto eth0
interface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.4
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway ....


>After adding
> an alias for eth0 to /etc/modules.conf with update-modules, you want


eeek, on debian put it in /etc/modutils/alias (or it my be in a sub
directory)

then run update-modules which puts it in /etc/modules.conf

> to put the machine IP details in /etc/hosts and somewhere where ifup eth0
> will find them.
>


when you start /etc/init.d/networking start it will pick all this up from
the interfraces file

>
> > The pc is quite old, but RedHat 6.2 found the card (3COM 3c 509) during

>
> That's an isa card. You need to turn off PnP on the card and load the
> 3c509 module.
>


I have one that was detect but mine is not running in pnp mode it was
disable when I got it. If however it worked under redhat and connect to
places it is already off.
remember thought the 3c509 module will need to be give the irq info etc.

> > setup so it's not that old.

>
> > I am really hoping someone would help me with this.
> > If there is anything else u kneed to know please mail me or reply to

this
>
> Well, like do you have a static IP or not? If it's served via dhcp, you
> need to run a dhcp client.
>


install pump or dhclient for this and change the word static in
/etc/network/interfaces to dhcp and remove the pointless options.

Andy


Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-12, 4:28 am

Andy <none@none.com> wrote:
> [ptb]
>> It shouldn't be. Load the driver for it and configure the interface.


Well, I suppose a dpkg-reconfigure networking might do it "the debian
way". I wouldn't bother.

> err well /etc/init.d/networking looks at the /etc/network/interfaces file


Yep.

> which from memory looks like this.


> auto eth0
> interface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.1.4
> broadcast 192.168.1.255
> gateway ....



>>After adding
>> an alias for eth0 to /etc/modules.conf with update-modules, you want


> eeek, on debian put it in /etc/modutils/alias (or it my be in a sub
> directory) then run update-modules which puts it in /etc/modules.conf


My sentence was intended to mean that!

> when you start /etc/init.d/networking start it will pick all this up from
> the interfraces file


Yo, mama. I just want this guy to go read some of his scripts and quit
pestering ...
[colo
r=darkred]
>> > The pc is quite old, but RedHat 6.2 found the card (3COM 3c 509) during

>>
>> That's an isa card. You need to turn off PnP on the card and load the
>> 3c509 module.
[/color]

> I have one that was detect but mine is not running in pnp mode it was
> disable when I got it. If however it worked under redhat and connect to
> places it is already off.


Yep.

> remember thought the 3c509 module will need to be give the irq info etc.


It may need the io port. It's been a long while since I've used one,
and modern drivers certainly can do without at least one of irq and io
info.

> install pump or dhclient for this and change the word static in
> /etc/network/interfaces to dhcp and remove the pointless options.


Yep.

Incidentally, dhclient, when run standalone, for me never changes the
ip address, just reports it on the command line. I then go and change
things manually. The man page leaves me with the impression that it
is supposed to do the ip configure, except <under incomprehensible
circumstances>. Do you know anything about this?

Peter
Andy

2002-09-12, 4:29 am


>
> Yo, mama. I just want this guy to go read some of his scripts and quit
> pestering ...


I like to help people, and assume most people have looked round first, if
not the help normally is worthless anyway.


> > remember thought the 3c509 module will need to be give the irq info etc.

>
> It may need the io port. It's been a long while since I've used one,
> and modern drivers certainly can do without at least one of irq and io
> info.


True

I think we managed to rewrite the debian how-to

> Incidentally, dhclient, when run standalone, for me never changes the
> ip address, just reports it on the command line. I then go and change
> things manually. The man page leaves me with the impression that it
> is supposed to do the ip configure, except <under incomprehensible
> circumstances>. Do you know anything about this?
>


Not really nether ran it in standalone execpt on my SuSE 6.1 router. (maybe
I should update named on it).

Andy


Peter T. Breuer

2002-09-12, 5:28 am

Andy <none@none.com> wrote:
> [ptb]
>> It shouldn't be. Load the driver for it and configure the interface.


Well, I suppose a dpkg-reconfigure networking might do it "the debian
way". I wouldn't bother.

> err well /etc/init.d/networking looks at the /etc/network/interfaces file


Yep.

> which from memory looks like this.


> auto eth0
> interface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.1.4
> broadcast 192.168.1.255
> gateway ....



>>After adding
>> an alias for eth0 to /etc/modules.conf with update-modules, you want


> eeek, on debian put it in /etc/modutils/alias (or it my be in a sub
> directory) then run update-modules which puts it in /etc/modules.conf


My sentence was intended to mean that!

> when you start /etc/init.d/networking start it will pick all this up from
> the interfraces file


Yo, mama. I just want this guy to go read some of his scripts and quit
pestering ...
[colo
r=darkred]
>> > The pc is quite old, but RedHat 6.2 found the card (3COM 3c 509) during

>>
>> That's an isa card. You need to turn off PnP on the card and load the
>> 3c509 module.
[/color]

> I have one that was detect but mine is not running in pnp mode it was
> disable when I got it. If however it worked under redhat and connect to
> places it is already off.


Yep.

> remember thought the 3c509 module will need to be give the irq info etc.


It may need the io port. It's been a long while since I've used one,
and modern drivers certainly can do without at least one of irq and io
info.

> install pump or dhclient for this and change the word static in
> /etc/network/interfaces to dhcp and remove the pointless options.


Yep.

Incidentally, dhclient, when run standalone, for me never changes the
ip address, just reports it on the command line. I then go and change
things manually. The man page leaves me with the impression that it
is supposed to do the ip configure, except <under incomprehensible
circumstances>. Do you know anything about this?

Peter
Andy

2002-09-12, 5:28 am


>
> Yo, mama. I just want this guy to go read some of his scripts and quit
> pestering ...


I like to help people, and assume most people have looked round first, if
not the help normally is worthless anyway.


> > remember thought the 3c509 module will need to be give the irq info etc.

>
> It may need the io port. It's been a long while since I've used one,
> and modern drivers certainly can do without at least one of irq and io
> info.


True

I think we managed to rewrite the debian how-to

> Incidentally, dhclient, when run standalone, for me never changes the
> ip address, just reports it on the command line. I then go and change
> things manually. The man page leaves me with the impression that it
> is supposed to do the ip configure, except <under incomprehensible
> circumstances>. Do you know anything about this?
>


Not really nether ran it in standalone execpt on my SuSE 6.1 router. (maybe
I should update named on it).

Andy


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