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| I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching distributions.
I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they seem to be heading.
My major complaint is package management. When cert issues an advisory, it
takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is a
desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
What I would really like is to be able to download new source code everytime
there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy the necessary
files to the directories without having to worry much about rpm
dependencies.
Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the directories
that things are installed to and building things from source or getting the
binaries seems to make that easier.
On the other side, I like the ease of installation for Redhat. All my
equipment was recognized.
One last scattered thought, I feel even the most basic redhat install is to
much non essential stuff. You get a bunch of stuff rammed down your throat.
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| John Hasler 2002-06-24, 10:25 pm |
| Tom writes:
> My major complaint is package management.
Debian. www.debian.org
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john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler)
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Elmwood, WI
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Tom wrote:
> takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is a
> desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
Slackware.
>
> What I would really like is to be able to download new source code everytime
> there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy the necessary
> files to the directories without having to worry much about rpm
> dependencies.
>
Why can't you do that under Red Hat? You do not _need_ to use rpms.
- Kurt
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| Joost Kremers 2002-06-25, 1:25 am |
| Tom wrote:
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching distributions.
> I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
>
> I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they seem to be heading.
>
> My major complaint is package management. When cert issues an advisory, it
> takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is a
> desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
slackware.
> What I would really like is to be able to download new source code everytime
> there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy the necessary
> files to the directories without having to worry much about rpm
> dependencies.
slackware.
> Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the directories
> that things are installed to and building things from source or getting the
> binaries seems to make that easier.
slackware.
> On the other side, I like the ease of installation for Redhat. All my
> equipment was recognized.
not slackware... that's to say, it will recognize all the essential
hardware, but if you want sound cards, printers etc, you'll have to
set them up yourself.
you should take a look at both slackware and debian, i think. if you
really want to do stuff yourself, slackware is the way to go.
--
Joost Kremers http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers
Ask 8 slackers how to do something, get 10 answers.
-- sl in alt.os.linux.slackware
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| Nils O. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sel=E5sdal?= 2002-06-25, 2:25 am |
| In article <uhfjdo8h77sb3a@corp.supernews.com>, Tom wrote:
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching distributions.
> I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
>
> I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they seem to be heading.
>
> My major complaint is package management. When cert issues an advisory, it
> takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is a
> desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
I find RH putting out security fixes very fast. And any times the packages
from redhat actually dont have the security hole everyone else have, since
its already been fixed. I say stick with RH, its stable and easy to manage.
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| karel janssen 2002-06-25, 2:25 am |
| Tom wrote:
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching
> distributions. I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
>
> I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they seem to be
> heading.
>
> My major complaint is package management. When cert issues an advisory,
> it
> takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is
> a
> desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
>
> What I would really like is to be able to download new source code
> everytime there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy the
> necessary files to the directories without having to worry much about rpm
> dependencies.
>
> Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the directories
> that things are installed to and building things from source or getting
> the binaries seems to make that easier.
>
> On the other side, I like the ease of installation for Redhat. All my
> equipment was recognized.
>
> One last scattered thought, I feel even the most basic redhat install is
> to
> much non essential stuff. You get a bunch of stuff rammed down your
> throat.
maybe you could try gentoo
http://www.gentoo.org
greets
--
karel
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| Richard James 2002-06-25, 3:25 am |
| Tom wrote:
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching
> distributions. I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
>
> I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they seem to be
> heading.
>
> My major complaint is package management. When cert issues an advisory,
> it
> takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is
> a
> desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
Like slackware
> What I would really like is to be able to download new source code
> everytime there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy the
> necessary files to the directories without having to worry much about rpm
> dependencies.
You can do that on any distro can't you?
> Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the directories
> that things are installed to and building things from source or getting
> the binaries seems to make that easier.
>
> On the other side, I like the ease of installation for Redhat. All my
> equipment was recognized.
>
> One last scattered thought, I feel even the most basic redhat install is
> to
> much non essential stuff. You get a bunch of stuff rammed down your
> throat.
Choose slackware choose freedom
Richard 
--
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| Luminary 2002-06-25, 6:25 am |
| On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 11:56:07 +1000, Tom wrote:
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching
> distributions. I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
>
> What I would really like is to be able to download new source code
> everytime there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy
> the necessary files to the directories without having to worry much
> about rpm dependencies.
>
> Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the
> directories that things are installed to and building things from source
> or getting the binaries seems to make that easier.
Consider a source-based distribution like Sorcerer Linux or Gentoo. I've
been using Sorcerer for some time now to manage packages in a similar way
to what you want. Sorcerer "spells" (download-build-install/remove
scripts) are quite easy to write, and you can encode dependencies if you
wish. If you want to make a generic way to update your core programs, this
is the way to go.
Cheers,
Luminary.
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| Joel Mayes 2002-06-25, 6:25 am |
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In a moment of clarity Tom had the following epiphany
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering .
> I switching distributions use Redhat now to host about .
> I 15 websites and email .
>
> I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they
> seem to be heading.
>
> My major complaint is package management. When cert
> issues an advisory, it takes a while before I can
> implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is a desent
> distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly
> console.
>
> What I would really like is to be able to download new
> source code everytime there is a patch available and
> just build it myself and copy the necessary files to
> the directories without having to worry much about rpm
> dependencies.
>
Sounds like a source-based distro might be good for you,
Sourcemage is very good.
> Also, I would like to for the most part be able to
> choose the directories that things are installed to and
> building things from source or getting the binaries
> seems to make that easier.
>
Sourcemage is good for this to, as everything is built
from source you can specify were it is installed, and what
directories to use for spools ect.
The package system is very easy to learn, all spells are
writen in bash, this the BUILD file from the apache spell
==============================
============================
(
patch -p1 < $SCRIPT_DIRECTORY/apache_1.3.23_db4.patch
./configure --prefix=/usr \
--sysconfdir=/etc/httpd \
--localstatedir=/var/lib/httpd \
--logfiledir=/var/log/httpd \
--proxycachedir=/var/cache/httpd \
--runtimedir=/var/run/httpd \
--enable-module=most \
--enable-shared=max \
--enable-module=auth_db \
--enable-module=mmap_static \
--disable-module=auth_dbm \
--with-layout=GNU &&
make &&
prepare_install &&
make install
) > $C_FIFO 2>&1 &&
(
cp $SCRIPT_DIRECTORY/apache.sh /etc/init.d
case $APACHE_BOOT in
y|Y|j|J)
ln -sf ../init.d/apache.sh /etc/rc0.d/K10apache
ln -sf ../init.d/apache.sh /etc/rc1.d/K10apache
ln -sf ../init.d/apache.sh /etc/rc2.d/K10apache
ln -sf ../init.d/apache.sh /etc/rc6.d/K10apache
ln -sf ../init.d/apache.sh /etc/rc3.d/S90apache
ln -sf ../init.d/apache.sh /etc/rc4.d/S90apache
ln -sf ../init.d/apache.sh /etc/rc5.d/S90apache
;;
*) true ;;
esac
)
==============================
============================
As you can see it would be easy to modify this to your needs.
> On the other side, I like the ease of installation for
> Redhat. All my equipment was recognized.
>
> One last scattered thought, I feel even the most basic
> redhat install is to much non essential stuff. You get
> a bunch of stuff rammed down your throat.
>
>
Sourcemage is good for this to, very small base install
with no bloat, and when you install a service it is
disabed by default.
Cheers
Joel
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| Jason Cutting 2002-06-25, 1:25 pm |
| On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 21:56:07 -0400, Tom <nospam_propsync@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching distributions.
> I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
<snip!>
Slackware, baby, slackware!
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| Faux_Pseudo 2002-06-25, 5:25 pm |
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--(Tom said it like only they can.)--
> My major complaint is package management
Slackware
> I don't use X windows, strictly console.
Slackware
> What I would really like is to be able to download new source code e
Slackware
> without having to worry much about rpm dependencies.
Slackware
> Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the directories
> that things are installed to and building things from source or getting the
> binaries seems to make that easier.
Slackware
> On the other side, I like the ease of installation for Redhat. All my
> equipment was recognized.
Slackware detects just enough for you to reboot after the install and
have access to your basic hardware. This is part of slackware's "let
the user do what the user wants" idea. If we are talking about
servers then sound, video and webcams are not an issue.
> One last scattered thought, I feel even the most basic redhat install is to
> much non essential stuff. You get a bunch of stuff rammed down your throat.
Slackware
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| Hello again, I've taken most peoples advice and have downloaded the
slackware 8.1 iso. I'm very happy with it so far. Let me share my
experiences with you.
It appears that everything that I am looking for is on that single cd. I
downloaded the iso file and burned it. I popped the cd into the computer
and it booted right up for the setup.
The setup was fairly easy. It kind of reminded me of a bsd setup. I can
see how a new user might need a bit of hand holding with slackware. Redhat
does a fairly good job of walking you through things. But one things for
sure, no matter what distro you use, at some point during install you have
to play with fdisk.
I was happy to see that proftp was the default ftp server. I see they use
sendmail, which I don't use but I'll compile qmail.
For package setup, I chose the newbie mode. It was a bit time consuming
(roughly 20 minutes) to choose each individual package, but, truthfully,
this is what I want.
I'm very happy because my installation is very lean and I like that alot.
It even appears to be smaller. Apache and ssh fired right up after reboot.
I'm configuring it right now at work. (get back to work!)
There are a few things I'll need to adjust to. On the surface, it seems
like a sysvinit style bootup but I don't think it is. Maybe some kind of
hybrid?
Cosmetically, there is a ~ next to the #. I'm not used to seeing the ~
Also, there is a / after the name of each directory.
Anyone know how to get rid of these?
Also, where might I find info on removing tgz packages or do you just delete
the files in question?
I think I'm going to like this distro.
"Tom" <nospam_propsync@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uhfjdo8h77sb3a@corp.supernews.com...
> I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching
distributions.
> I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
>
> I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they seem to be
heading.
>
> My major complaint is package management. When cert issues an advisory,
it
> takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for is
a
> desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
>
> What I would really like is to be able to download new source code
everytime
> there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy the necessary
> files to the directories without having to worry much about rpm
> dependencies.
>
> Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the directories
> that things are installed to and building things from source or getting
the
> binaries seems to make that easier.
>
> On the other side, I like the ease of installation for Redhat. All my
> equipment was recognized.
>
> One last scattered thought, I feel even the most basic redhat install is
to
> much non essential stuff. You get a bunch of stuff rammed down your
throat.
>
>
| |
| Joost Kremers 2002-06-26, 9:25 am |
| Tom wrote:
> Hello again, I've taken most peoples advice and have downloaded the
> slackware 8.1 iso.
congratulations!
> The setup was fairly easy. It kind of reminded me of a bsd setup. I can
yeah, slackware is said to be the most bsd-ish of linux distros.
> I see they use
> sendmail, which I don't use but I'll compile qmail.
well, AFAIK qmail cannot be distributed in binary form, so it wouldn't
be possible to include it in the distro anyway.
> There are a few things I'll need to adjust to. On the surface, it seems
> like a sysvinit style bootup but I don't think it is. Maybe some kind of
> hybrid?
it is, in a way. it's basically BSD-style, in that there are no
directories for different run levels and startup scripts do not
usually take start|stop|restart. but there is some accomodation for
SysV through rc.sysvinit, and some startup scripts *do* take an
argument. but the main feature of SysV-style startup scripts, the
endless list of symbolic links, is not there. (thank god... ;-)
> Cosmetically, there is a ~ next to the #. I'm not used to seeing the ~
~ is your home dir, obviously. you can change the prompt by setting
the environment variable PS1 to the appropriate value, which is done
in /etc/profile. i have it set to `\u@\h:\w \$' (standard i think is
`\u@\h:\w\$'). if you change \w to \W, you should see /root and
/home/<user> instead of ~.
see `man bash' section PROMPTING for details.
> Also, there is a / after the name of each directory.
same thing, i guess: \w to \W.
or you can change your preferred shell to something else...
> Also, where might I find info on removing tgz packages or do you just delete
> the files in question?
/var/log/packages.
you should take a look at the slackware book, which can be found at
<http://www.slackware.com/book>. it explains everything you need to
know about the packages, and it contains a lot more info. another good
place for info is alt.os.linux.slackware, and the aols FAQ at
<http://wombat.san-francisco.ca.us/f...ic/cache/1.html>
HTH
--
Joost Kremers http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers
Ask 8 slackers how to do something, get 10 answers.
-- sl in alt.os.linux.slackware
| |
| Dave Uhring 2002-06-26, 3:25 pm |
| Joost Kremers wrote:
>> Also, there is a / after the name of each directory.
>
> same thing, i guess: \w to \W.
The ls command is aliased to 'ls -F'. I don't know where since I have
extensively modified my setup.
>
> or you can change your preferred shell to something else...
>
>> Also, where might I find info on removing tgz packages or do you just
>> delete the files in question?
>
> /var/log/packages.
Use pkgtool to do that. It's almost impossible to manually locate all
the files installed in one of the packages.
| |
|
| I changed PS1 to look like the following to give me the look I'm used to. I
find it more appealing to the eye.
'[\u@\h /\W]\$ '
It looks like this:
[root@linux /bin]#
"Joost Kremers" <mrlinguist@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:slrnahjlio.4t.mrlinguist@catv0149.extern.kun.nl...
> Tom wrote:
> > Hello again, I've taken most peoples advice and have downloaded the
> > slackware 8.1 iso.
>
> congratulations!
>
> > The setup was fairly easy. It kind of reminded me of a bsd setup. I
can
>
> yeah, slackware is said to be the most bsd-ish of linux distros.
>
> > I see they use
> > sendmail, which I don't use but I'll compile qmail.
>
> well, AFAIK qmail cannot be distributed in binary form, so it wouldn't
> be possible to include it in the distro anyway.
>
> > There are a few things I'll need to adjust to. On the surface, it seems
> > like a sysvinit style bootup but I don't think it is. Maybe some kind
of
> > hybrid?
>
> it is, in a way. it's basically BSD-style, in that there are no
> directories for different run levels and startup scripts do not
> usually take start|stop|restart. but there is some accomodation for
> SysV through rc.sysvinit, and some startup scripts *do* take an
> argument. but the main feature of SysV-style startup scripts, the
> endless list of symbolic links, is not there. (thank god... ;-)
>
> > Cosmetically, there is a ~ next to the #. I'm not used to seeing the ~
>
> ~ is your home dir, obviously. you can change the prompt by setting
> the environment variable PS1 to the appropriate value, which is done
> in /etc/profile. i have it set to `\u@\h:\w \$' (standard i think is
> `\u@\h:\w\$'). if you change \w to \W, you should see /root and
> /home/<user> instead of ~.
>
> see `man bash' section PROMPTING for details.
>
> > Also, there is a / after the name of each directory.
>
> same thing, i guess: \w to \W.
>
> or you can change your preferred shell to something else...
>
> > Also, where might I find info on removing tgz packages or do you just
delete
> > the files in question?
>
> /var/log/packages.
>
> you should take a look at the slackware book, which can be found at
> <http://www.slackware.com/book>. it explains everything you need to
> know about the packages, and it contains a lot more info. another good
> place for info is alt.os.linux.slackware, and the aols FAQ at
> <http://wombat.san-francisco.ca.us/f...ic/cache/1.html>
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Joost Kremers http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers
> Ask 8 slackers how to do something, get 10 answers.
> -- sl in alt.os.linux.slackware
| |
|
| wow! I just found the pkgtool and used it to remove a package. How
incredibly simplistic and powerful. This is exactly what I had in mind. I
can't believe I haven't used this distro sooner.
"Tom" <nospam_propsync@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uhji6o7573rkfd@corp.supernews.com...
> Hello again, I've taken most peoples advice and have downloaded the
> slackware 8.1 iso. I'm very happy with it so far. Let me share my
> experiences with you.
>
> It appears that everything that I am looking for is on that single cd. I
> downloaded the iso file and burned it. I popped the cd into the computer
> and it booted right up for the setup.
>
> The setup was fairly easy. It kind of reminded me of a bsd setup. I can
> see how a new user might need a bit of hand holding with slackware.
Redhat
> does a fairly good job of walking you through things. But one things for
> sure, no matter what distro you use, at some point during install you have
> to play with fdisk.
>
> I was happy to see that proftp was the default ftp server. I see they use
> sendmail, which I don't use but I'll compile qmail.
>
> For package setup, I chose the newbie mode. It was a bit time consuming
> (roughly 20 minutes) to choose each individual package, but, truthfully,
> this is what I want.
>
> I'm very happy because my installation is very lean and I like that alot.
> It even appears to be smaller. Apache and ssh fired right up after
reboot.
> I'm configuring it right now at work. (get back to work!)
>
> There are a few things I'll need to adjust to. On the surface, it seems
> like a sysvinit style bootup but I don't think it is. Maybe some kind of
> hybrid?
>
> Cosmetically, there is a ~ next to the #. I'm not used to seeing the ~
>
> Also, there is a / after the name of each directory.
>
> Anyone know how to get rid of these?
>
> Also, where might I find info on removing tgz packages or do you just
delete
> the files in question?
>
> I think I'm going to like this distro.
>
> "Tom" <nospam_propsync@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uhfjdo8h77sb3a@corp.supernews.com...
> > I would like to get some opinions. I'm considering switching
> distributions.
> > I use Redhat now to host about 15 websites and email.
> >
> > I'm starting to get disappointed with the direction they seem to be
> heading.
> >
> > My major complaint is package management. When cert issues an advisory,
> it
> > takes a while before I can implement it. I guess, what I'm looking for
is
> a
> > desent distro made for an ISP. I don't use X windows, strictly console.
> >
> > What I would really like is to be able to download new source code
> everytime
> > there is a patch available and just build it myself and copy the
necessary
> > files to the directories without having to worry much about rpm
> > dependencies.
> >
> > Also, I would like to for the most part be able to choose the
directories
> > that things are installed to and building things from source or getting
> the
> > binaries seems to make that easier.
> >
> > On the other side, I like the ease of installation for Redhat. All my
> > equipment was recognized.
> >
> > One last scattered thought, I feel even the most basic redhat install is
> to
> > much non essential stuff. You get a bunch of stuff rammed down your
> throat.
> >
> >
>
>
| |
|
| Here's a tip to make vim work a little easier (like in redhat). Makes
editing files easier for the newbie.
create a file in your user directory called .vimrc
include the following 2 lines
set nocompatible
set bs=2
logout and then back in and vim works much nicer.
"Joost Kremers" <mrlinguist@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:slrnahjlio.4t.mrlinguist@catv0149.extern.kun.nl...
> Tom wrote:
> > Hello again, I've taken most peoples advice and have downloaded the
> > slackware 8.1 iso.
>
> congratulations!
>
> > The setup was fairly easy. It kind of reminded me of a bsd setup. I
can
>
> yeah, slackware is said to be the most bsd-ish of linux distros.
>
> > I see they use
> > sendmail, which I don't use but I'll compile qmail.
>
> well, AFAIK qmail cannot be distributed in binary form, so it wouldn't
> be possible to include it in the distro anyway.
>
> > There are a few things I'll need to adjust to. On the surface, it seems
> > like a sysvinit style bootup but I don't think it is. Maybe some kind
of
> > hybrid?
>
> it is, in a way. it's basically BSD-style, in that there are no
> directories for different run levels and startup scripts do not
> usually take start|stop|restart. but there is some accomodation for
> SysV through rc.sysvinit, and some startup scripts *do* take an
> argument. but the main feature of SysV-style startup scripts, the
> endless list of symbolic links, is not there. (thank god... ;-)
>
> > Cosmetically, there is a ~ next to the #. I'm not used to seeing the ~
>
> ~ is your home dir, obviously. you can change the prompt by setting
> the environment variable PS1 to the appropriate value, which is done
> in /etc/profile. i have it set to `\u@\h:\w \$' (standard i think is
> `\u@\h:\w\$'). if you change \w to \W, you should see /root and
> /home/<user> instead of ~.
>
> see `man bash' section PROMPTING for details.
>
> > Also, there is a / after the name of each directory.
>
> same thing, i guess: \w to \W.
>
> or you can change your preferred shell to something else...
>
> > Also, where might I find info on removing tgz packages or do you just
delete
> > the files in question?
>
> /var/log/packages.
>
> you should take a look at the slackware book, which can be found at
> <http://www.slackware.com/book>. it explains everything you need to
> know about the packages, and it contains a lot more info. another good
> place for info is alt.os.linux.slackware, and the aols FAQ at
> <http://wombat.san-francisco.ca.us/f...ic/cache/1.html>
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Joost Kremers http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers
> Ask 8 slackers how to do something, get 10 answers.
> -- sl in alt.os.linux.slackware
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| Faux_Pseudo 2002-06-26, 9:25 pm |
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> I'm very happy because my installation is very lean and I like that alot.
> It even appears to be smaller. Apache and ssh fired right up after reboot.
> I'm configuring it right now at work. (get back to work!)
I see that all the rest of your questions have been answerd so I will
just offer some advice. Make sure you have a safe version of ssh. A
bug was found just after slackware 8.1.01 came out that can compramise
your system.
> There are a few things I'll need to adjust to. On the surface, it seems
> like a sysvinit style bootup but I don't think it is. Maybe some kind of
> hybrid?
BSD with SysV compatablity. Fun for the whole family.
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((,,_;'.;' ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._)) | - Andrew Jackson
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| Joost Kremers 2002-06-27, 4:25 am |
| Tom wrote:
> Here's a tip to make vim work a little easier (like in redhat). Makes
> editing files easier for the newbie.
>
> create a file in your user directory called .vimrc
> include the following 2 lines
> set nocompatible
> set bs=2
>
> logout and then back in and vim works much nicer.
it should be enough to just restart vim.
(BTW, could i ask you to snip the parts of the quoted text in your
replies that you're not responding to and not to top-post? thank you.)
--
Joost Kremers http://baserv.uci.kun.nl/~jkremers
Ask 8 slackers how to do something, get 10 answers.
-- sl in alt.os.linux.slackware
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|
| Thanks, I just received the cert advisory this morning.
"Faux_Pseudo" <Faux_Pseudo@yahoo.comERCIAL> wrote in message
news:slrnahku69.dh.Faux_Pseudo@fugozi.cx1209071-a...
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> - --(Once apon a time, in alt.os.linux,)--
> --(Tom said it like only they can.)--
> > I'm very happy because my installation is very lean and I like that
alot.
> > It even appears to be smaller. Apache and ssh fired right up after
reboot.
> > I'm configuring it right now at work. (get back to work!)
>
>
> I see that all the rest of your questions have been answerd so I will
> just offer some advice. Make sure you have a safe version of ssh. A
> bug was found just after slackware 8.1.01 came out that can compramise
> your system.
>
> > There are a few things I'll need to adjust to. On the surface, it seems
> > like a sysvinit style bootup but I don't think it is. Maybe some kind
of
> > hybrid?
>
> BSD with SysV compatablity. Fun for the whole family.
>
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> ' ..- .:" ) ( ":. -.. ' | can only think of one way to
> ((,,_;'.;' ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
> ((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._)) | - Andrew Jackson
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| Faux_Pseudo 2002-06-27, 6:25 pm |
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> Thanks, I just received the cert advisory this morning.
>
Too keep current I use the following cron entry with the following
script so that I see all of this stuff at least within 24 hours of a
change in slackware-current.
0 0 * * * /home/faux/shell/newslack.sh
#!/bin/bash
HOME=/home/faux
DIFF_STORAGE=${HOME}/.diffsave/
# change it to what every mirror and path works best for you.
MIRROR=http://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/slackware/slackware-current/ChangeLog.txt
if [ ! -d $DIFF_STORAGE ] ; then
mkdir $DIFF_STORAGE
fi
if [ -d $DIFF_STORAGE ] ; then
cd $DIFF_STORAGE
mv -f ChangeLog.txt ChangeLog.txt.orig
wget ${MIRROR} 2> /dev/null 1>/dev/null
fi
if [[ -f ChangeLog.txt.orig && -f ChangeLog.txt ]] ; then
if [ $(diff ChangeLog.txt ChangeLog.txt.orig 2>/dev/null | wc \
-l | awk -F : '{print$1}') -gt 0 ] ; then
diff ChangeLog.txt ChangeLog.txt.orig
fi
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.-')) _ UIN= 66618055 _ (('-. | It's a damn poor mind that
' ..- .:" ) ( ":. -.. ' | can only think of one way to
((,,_;'.;' ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
((_.;'*Faux_Pseudo*':._)) | - Andrew Jackson
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| The Guy 2002-06-27, 9:25 pm |
|
"Tom" <nospam_propsync@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uhkrjdp322jtce@corp.supernews.com...
> Here's a tip to make vim work a little easier (like in redhat). Makes
> editing files easier for the newbie.
>
> create a file in your user directory called .vimrc
> include the following 2 lines
> set nocompatible
> set bs=2
>
> logout and then back in and vim works much nicer.
>
What does the above do to vi
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