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Carl Rupsis

2002-11-25, 4:24 pm

I am a newbie, i know windows operating systems quite well and currently
using Win2k server as a router, webserver and remote access point. I have
come to the point where i want to learn linux, but i still need the windows
resources for school and such.
i have partition half of my 16 gig for linux and have the other 8gig for
win2k, which is formatted with NTFS. What is the easiest way to install and
setup a dual boot. I have downloaded RH8. i have installed it once but it
wouldnt let me boot to windows, so i am guessing i erased a boot record or
something. So at this point i started over and installed win 2k again with
the same partition sizes. Can anyone help walk me through installation of
RH8 so i can dual boot or point me to a link or someone who can help.
Thanks in advance
Carl
carl.rupsis@verizon.net


Bit Twister

2002-11-25, 5:24 pm

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:49:13 GMT, Carl Rupsis wrote:
> I am a newbie, i know windows operating systems quite well and currently
> using Win2k server as a router, webserver and remote access point. I have
> come to the point where i want to learn linux, but i still need the windows
> resources for school and such.
> i have partition half of my 16 gig for linux and have the other 8gig for
> win2k, which is formatted with NTFS. What is the easiest way to install and
> setup a dual boot. I have downloaded RH8. i have installed it once but it
> wouldnt let me boot to windows, so i am guessing i erased a boot record or
> something. So at this point i started over and installed win 2k again with
> the same partition sizes. Can anyone help walk me through installation of
> RH8 so i can dual boot or point me to a link or someone who can help.


I always do a lilo mbr install.

Were you able to boot windows with a windoze cd.

I'm wondering if you picked an install mode which wiped the drive
instead of you just installing in the free space.

You might try picking a Custom/Expert install and have a finer
control of the install.

If you plan to write files back to windows, you might want to create
a fat32 partition for linux to write to that dos can read.

Check bios Plug and Play OS is off/false/no

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Cosmo

2002-11-25, 7:24 pm

On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:49:13 +0000, Carl Rupsis wrote:

> I am a newbie, i know windows operating systems quite well and currently
> using Win2k server as a router, webserver and remote access point. I have
> come to the point where i want to learn linux, but i still need the windows
> resources for school and such.
> i have partition half of my 16 gig for linux and have the other 8gig for
> win2k, which is formatted with NTFS. What is the easiest way to install and
> setup a dual boot. I have downloaded RH8. i have installed it once but it
> wouldnt let me boot to windows, so i am guessing i erased a boot record or
> something. So at this point i started over and installed win 2k again with
> the same partition sizes. Can anyone help walk me through installation of
> RH8 so i can dual boot or point me to a link or someone who can help.
> Thanks in advance
> Carl
> carl.rupsis@verizon.net



Used to be that you needed to capture the NT bootsect and add a line to
the NTlodader to dual boot NT and Linux (linux boot installed on the first
linux partition) there are tons of links out there about NT/2000/XP
and linux. Fire up that Google and have fun! Dual booting with NTFS is not
quite as easy as dual booting with FAT32 but is easily doable.
Carl Rupsis

2002-11-25, 10:24 pm


"Bit Twister" <BitTwister@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:slrnau5a3p.8pk.BitTwister@wb.home...
> On Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:49:13 GMT, Carl Rupsis wrote:
> > I am a newbie, i know windows operating systems quite well and currently
> > using Win2k server as a router, webserver and remote access point. I

have
> > come to the point where i want to learn linux, but i still need the

windows
> > resources for school and such.
> > i have partition half of my 16 gig for linux and have the other 8gig for
> > win2k, which is formatted with NTFS. What is the easiest way to install

and
> > setup a dual boot. I have downloaded RH8. i have installed it once but

it
> > wouldnt let me boot to windows, so i am guessing i erased a boot record

or
> > something. So at this point i started over and installed win 2k again

with
> > the same partition sizes. Can anyone help walk me through installation

of
> > RH8 so i can dual boot or point me to a link or someone who can help.

>
> I always do a lilo mbr install.
>
> Were you able to boot windows with a windoze cd.
>
> I'm wondering if you picked an install mode which wiped the drive
> instead of you just installing in the free space.
>
> You might try picking a Custom/Expert install and have a finer
> control of the install.
>
> If you plan to write files back to windows, you might want to create
> a fat32 partition for linux to write to that dos can read.
>
> Check bios Plug and Play OS is off/false/no
>
> I am impressed with your demeanor and information provide
> after having soooo muuuuch fun so far. Good Job.
> When you come back with questions
> read http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> we will have you flying in no time.


Ok should I install lilo in the MBR? Is that going to screw up windows
boot. I chose to install Lilo into what is my hda2 where my first Linux
partition is. When into post configuration, I made a boot disk, and then it
told me it was unable to write the kernel and no boot configuration changes
were made. So I tried to use the boot disk, and that failed. Is that due
to not having kernel? Can I create one somehow or should I reinstall again,
and what should I do with the boot config? Thank you for your knowledge.
Carl Rupsis
carl.rupsis@verizon.net


Bit Twister

2002-11-25, 10:24 pm

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 03:29:01 GMT, Carl Rupsis wrote:
>
> Ok should I install lilo in the MBR?


That was my suggestion.

> Is that going to screw up windows boot.


It shouldn't I have use lilo mbr on redhat 6.x, 7.1
Mandrake 6.x 7.x, 8.x and 9.x


> I chose to install Lilo into what is my hda2 where my first Linux
> partition is.


I have not tried that.

> When into post configuration, I made a boot disk, and then it
> told me it was unable to write the kernel and no boot configuration changes
> were made.


I have found that x.0 releases have some bugs, I try and wait to get x.1 or
better.

> So I tried to use the boot disk, and that failed. Is that due
> to not having kernel? Can I create one somehow or should I reinstall again,
> and what should I do with the boot config?


I run Mandrake, so i cannot talk about the kernel.
You can try this.
Boot cd 1 in the rescue mode and do a
chroot /mnt/sysimage
pop in that floppy boot disk and this might make a bootable image diskette
mkbootdisk --device /dev/fd0 $(uname -r)
pop in another blank floppy and try to create a lilo boot diskette with
lilo -b /dev/fd0
shutdown the system
shutdown -t 6 -h now
Pop out the cd
Now tell the bios to boot the floppy and it should come up with
the lilo diskette. if not, try the boot image diskette.

While in the bios verify the Plug and Play OS is no/off/false

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Jeroen Geilman

2002-11-28, 3:24 pm

Carl Rupsis wrote:

> I am a newbie, i know windows operating systems quite well and currently
> using Win2k server as a router, webserver and remote access point. I have
> come to the point where i want to learn linux, but i still need the
> windows resources for school and such.
> i have partition half of my 16 gig for linux and have the other 8gig for
> win2k, which is formatted with NTFS. What is the easiest way to install
> and setup a dual boot. I have downloaded RH8.


Use GRUB.

Install RH, choose to install GRUB to the MBR - GRUB will call this (hd0).

If you ever need to do this manually, it's easy : boot up a rescue CD
(preferably one with GRUB on it !) and type :

# grub

then

> root (hd0,x)


where x is the partition that holds the GRUB files
==the /boot/grub directory, it's on the /boot *partition* if it's on its own
partition, / (root) partition otherwise, and remember grub counts from
ZERO, not one...
so hda1 == (hd0,0), hda2 == (hd0,1) etc.

then :

> setup (hd0)


to install GRUB in the MBR
and exit grub

>quit


and it's done !

Oh, and DO NOT FORGET to edit the boot menu BEFORE YOU REBOOT ;-):

# vi /boot/grub/menu.lst

and add this

title=Windows 2000 Server
rootnoverify (hd0,x) <--- Windows 2000 system partition
makeactive
chainloader +1

Should boot you right into Windows 2000, without ever having to fiddle with
boot sectors !

GRUB rules !

HTH

J

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