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Dual-Boot Question
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| William 2002-10-23, 10:24 am |
| I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16 containing a
working installation of Windows 98, and the other blank and available for a
Linux installation. I am planning to install Redhat Linux 7.3 in the latter
partition and dual-boot it with Win98.
My question is : when in either of these two operating systems, can the disk
partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98 can an HTML file in
the Linux partition be opened in Explorer, or if in Linux can a Microsoft
Word document in the Windows partition be opened using the OpenOffice
software?
If the other partition cannot be viewed (either way) is there any special
software that can be installed that will allow it to be viewed.
Many thanks for any advice.
Best regards,
William.
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| Paul Lutus 2002-10-23, 10:24 am |
| William wrote:
> I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16 containing a
> working installation of Windows 98, and the other blank and available for
> a Linux installation. I am planning to install Redhat Linux 7.3 in the
> latter partition and dual-boot it with Win98.
>
> My question is : when in either of these two operating systems, can the
> disk partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98 can an HTML
> file in the Linux partition be opened in Explorer,
No. Windows cannot read Linux ext2 or ext3 partitions.
> or if in Linux can a
> Microsoft Word document in the Windows partition be opened using the
> OpenOffice software?
Yes, for most version of Word version documents, either OpenOffice or
StarOffice can read the documents.
>
> If the other partition cannot be viewed (either way) is there any special
> software that can be installed that will allow it to be viewed.
Not needed. But, as the other poster says, maybe it would be a good idea to
change the FAT16 partition to FAT32, just because it is faster and more
reliable. Not in any way to help Linux read it, but because it is more
reliable.
--
Paul Lutus
www.arachnoid.com
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| Paul Lutus 2002-10-23, 10:24 am |
| William wrote:
> I have a system with two separate partitions,
Do not multi-post. Make one post in one newsgroup.
--
Paul Lutus
www.arachnoid.com
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| Vadim V. Kouevda 2002-10-23, 11:24 am |
| Paul Lutus wrote:
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> William wrote:
>
> > I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16 containing a
> > working installation of Windows 98, and the other blank and available for
> > a Linux installation. I am planning to install Redhat Linux 7.3 in the
> > latter partition and dual-boot it with Win98.
> >
> > My question is : when in either of these two operating systems, can the
> > disk partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98 can an HTML
> > file in the Linux partition be opened in Explorer,
>
> No. Windows cannot read Linux ext2 or ext3 partitions.
Stock Windows no, but there are applications which can do it.
Both: ext2 and ext3 (most often in ext2 mode, dropping ext3 journal).
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| Paul Lutus 2002-10-23, 11:24 am |
| Vadim V. Kouevda wrote:
> Paul Lutus wrote:
>>
>> William wrote:
>>
>> > I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16 containing a
>> > working installation of Windows 98, and the other blank and available
>> > for a Linux installation. I am planning to install Redhat Linux 7.3 in
>> > the latter partition and dual-boot it with Win98.
>> >
>> > My question is : when in either of these two operating systems, can the
>> > disk partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98 can an HTML
>> > file in the Linux partition be opened in Explorer,
>>
>> No. Windows cannot read Linux ext2 or ext3 partitions.
>
> Stock Windows no, but there are applications which can do it.
> Both: ext2 and ext3 (most often in ext2 mode, dropping ext3 journal).
Why not name one?
--
Paul Lutus
www.arachnoid.com
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| Michael Heiming 2002-10-23, 12:27 pm |
| William (<Egyt9.2329$Af5.89396@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net> ):
> I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16
> containing a working installation of Windows 98, and the other
> blank and available for a Linux installation. I am planning to
> install Redhat Linux 7.3 in the latter partition and dual-boot it
> with Win98.
>
> My question is : when in either of these two operating systems,
> can the disk partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98
> can an HTML file in the Linux partition be opened in Explorer, or
> if in Linux can a Microsoft Word document in the Windows partition
> be opened using the OpenOffice software?
Linux has no problems mounting msdos/vfat filesystems, try:
man mount
Staroffice/Openoffice should be able to open most M$ Office files.
There was a M$ tool called "explore2fs" or alike, try searching
freshmeat.net, perhaps it's still useable.
> If the other partition cannot be viewed (either way) is there any
> special software that can be installed that will allow it to be
> viewed.
Set up an extra vfat partition used by both systems, or just use
the windoze partition to share files.
Michael Heiming
--
My real mail is just: myfirstname@mylastname.de. Hope you can
figure it out
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| Joachim Feise 2002-10-23, 12:27 pm |
| Paul Lutus wrote:
>>Stock Windows no, but there are applications which can do it.
>>Both: ext2 and ext3 (most often in ext2 mode, dropping ext3 journal).
>
>
> Why not name one?
STFW. It takes all of 2 seconds:
http://ashedel.chat.ru/ext2fsnt/
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| DeathMC 2002-10-23, 1:24 pm |
| William wrote:
> I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16 containing a
> working installation of Windows 98, and the other blank and available for
> a Linux installation. I am planning to install Redhat Linux 7.3 in the
> latter partition and dual-boot it with Win98.
>
> My question is : when in either of these two operating systems, can the
> disk partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98 can an HTML
> file in the Linux partition be opened in Explorer, or if in Linux can a
> Microsoft Word document in the Windows partition be opened using the
> OpenOffice software?
>
> If the other partition cannot be viewed (either way) is there any special
> software that can be installed that will allow it to be viewed.
>
> Many thanks for any advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> William.
>
Greetz,
My first post on any newsgroup I shall devote to answering this dualboot
question.
I also work with a dual boot system (Linux Slackware 8.0.0 and Win 2K). As
far as I know Windows can't read a linux native partition (nor any other
non-windows and non-dos partition). Linux on the other hand can read most
common 'other' partitions. It doesn't matter what type of user you are, you
can read it. The problem I have is that I can't figure out how to write to
such a partition without being root user. But that's something else.
Conclusion: Windows can't read it, Linux can!
I haven't looked for windows programmes to read linux partitions, maybe you
can find some on the internet, though I doubt it.
Greetz,
DeathMC
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| Paul Lutus 2002-10-23, 1:24 pm |
| Joachim Feise wrote:
> Paul Lutus wrote:
>>>Stock Windows no, but there are applications which can do it.
>>>Both: ext2 and ext3 (most often in ext2 mode, dropping ext3 journal).
>>
>>
>> Why not name one?
>
> STFW. It takes all of 2 seconds:
> http://ashedel.chat.ru/ext2fsnt/
And even less when you are willing to create a complete, informative post.
--
Paul Lutus
www.arachnoid.com
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| Joe Fredrickson 2002-10-23, 8:24 pm |
| On Thu, 24 Oct 2002 12:22 am, William posted to alt.linux the following
blurb ::
> I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16 containing a
> working installation of Windows 98, and the other blank and available for
> a Linux installation. I am planning to install Redhat Linux 7.3 in the
> latter partition and dual-boot it with Win98.
Good for you.
IMO though dont use RH, albeit the dual boot would be easily set up, I
believe that RH doesnt really offer newbies "Linux" as such just a GUI'ed
up copy of it.
Use Debian. Or visit www.distrowatch.com and pick for yourself
> My question is : when in either of these two operating systems, can the
> disk partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98 can an HTML
> file in the Linux partition be opened in Explorer, or if in Linux can a
> Microsoft Word document in the Windows partition be opened using the
> OpenOffice software?
Linux will read your windows partitions
OpenOffice will read/write office Doc's for you
HTML can be viewed in any editor (be careful though windows and linux have
different line break characters, by default).
> If the other partition cannot be viewed (either way) is there any special
> software that can be installed that will allow it to be viewed.
Explore2FS does ext3 (and ext2) fine for me, havent tried it with anything
else, and probably wont as I havent used windows now in over 3 months.
--
remember this is the sequence of events, in no particular order
Registered Linux User 282072
<www.volutin.net -- everything irrelevant>
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| Charles Sullivan 2002-10-23, 11:24 pm |
| On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:22:01 -0400, William wrote:
> I have a system with two separate partitions, one a FAT16 containing a
> working installation of Windows 98, and the other blank and available
> for a Linux installation. I am planning to install Redhat Linux 7.3 in
> the latter partition and dual-boot it with Win98.
>
> My question is : when in either of these two operating systems, can the
> disk partition of the other be viewed, eg if in Windows 98 can an HTML
> file in the Linux partition be opened in Explorer, or if in Linux can a
> Microsoft Word document in the Windows partition be opened using the
> OpenOffice software?
>
> If the other partition cannot be viewed (either way) is there any
> special software that can be installed that will allow it to be viewed.
>
> Many thanks for any advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> William.
There's no problem accessing FAT 16 or FAT 32 partitions read/write
from Linux using Linux software.
You can download the free Windows program 'explore2fs' to access your
Linux files. You can view a text file but I'm not sure whether the
program will pull in an html viewer for html files or just display
them as text. You can however export the Linux file to Win 98 and
work on it there. Writing to the Linux partition is _very_ risky.
There's an older GPL'd program 'fsdext2' which works a little differently -
you 'mount' (read only) the Linux partition as a new DOS drive letter
and can then use Win tools to read it. You can find it here:
http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/fsdext2/
I used it a little on Win 98 when my HDD was on /dev/hda but it
quit working after I moved the HDD to a Promise UDMA 66 add-on
card as /dev/hde.
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| Ross Anderson 2002-10-29, 7:24 am |
| All replies and advice much appreciated
Regards
William
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| Mike Tuthill 2002-10-29, 2:25 pm |
| Ross Anderson wrote:
> All replies and advice much appreciated
What exactly is your question?
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