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| Michael Heiming 2002-10-13, 5:24 pm |
| Stats alt.os.linux (last 7 days)
rank posts kbytes name address
1 225 450.4 mjt mjtobler@removethis_consu
2 51 89.4 Paul Lutus nospam@nosite.zzz
3 31 78.8 Peter T. Breuer ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es
4 29 55.1 Kevin Nathan knathan@project54.com
5 28 51.4 Daniel Altendorf sysop@imperialsquadrons.n
6 26 40.7 stephan stephan@wanderinghorse.ne
7 23 52.0 DavidL nospam@nospam.com
8 23 35.8 Sybren sybrenUSE@YOURthirdtower.
9 22 42.6 Rich Downing rvd@netrocam.com
10 19 31.7 Jens Richter gumpelino@planetwave.net
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477 927.8 Total for top 10
Totals for the newsgroup:
565 posters
1823 articles
3352.1 kbytes
The top 10 accounted for:
1.8% of the posters
26.2% of the articles
27.7% of the bytes
Averages:
3.2 articles / poster
1.8 kbytes / article
5.9 kbytes / poster
335 people posted for the first time this period.
They went on to post 625 articles altogether
The new posters accounted for:
59.3% of the posters
34.3% of the articles
33.6% of the bytes
Newsreader (accumulated) top 10:
1014 KNode 55.6%
282 Microsoft 15.5%
218 Mozilla 12.0%
109 Pan 6.0%
93 slrn 5.1%
56 Sylpheed 3.1%
46 tin 2.5%
45 Forte 2.5%
36 Gnus 2.0%
14 Xnews 0.8%
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| Sybren 2002-10-13, 5:24 pm |
| Michael Heiming wrote:
> Newsreader (accumulated) top 10:
> 1014 KNode 55.6%
> 282 Microsoft 15.5%
How on earth can a Microsoft newsreader be #2 in a Linux newsgroup?
Now that I think of it... maybe the people that can't get Linux to install
and ask for help here ;-)
Sybren
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| John Hasler 2002-10-13, 8:24 pm |
| Sybren writes:
> Now that I think of it... maybe the people that can't get Linux to
> install and ask for help here ;-)
And those posting from work, and those who are using a browser set to
identify as IE...
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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| Sybren 2002-10-13, 11:25 pm |
| John Hasler wrote:
> And those posting from work, and those who are using a browser set to
> identify as IE...
Good point, although I hate seeing Linux users being counted as Internet
Explorer users. Really, I hate that. Sites that force me to identify as IE
lose me as a visitor. About the work computers: I'm just a smarta## who
simply installs Debian on his box even though the rest of the company is
working on Windoze ;-) It simply didn't cross my mind that someone could be
working at a company where that was not allowed / not possible. You know
what? I'd even refuse to work at a company like that. I know, that's easy
to say for someone who bulds webpages for a living (PHP and VIM are an
excellent couple ;-))
Sybren
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| Brian Reichle 2002-10-14, 12:24 am |
| Sybren wrote:
> Michael Heiming wrote:
>
>
>>Newsreader (accumulated) top 10:
>> 1014 KNode 55.6%
>> 282 Microsoft 15.5%
>>
>
> How on earth can a Microsoft newsreader be #2 in a Linux newsgroup?
>
is it just me or dose this question get asked every time Michael post's
these stats? (hmmm wasn't microsoft #1 last time? things seam to be
improving)
> Now that I think of it... maybe the people that can't get Linux to install
> and ask for help here ;-)
>
> Sybren
>
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| Geoff Field 2002-10-14, 12:24 am |
| "Sybren" <sybrenUSE@YOURthirdtower.imagination.com> wrote in message
news:aode8c$fv9$8@news1.xs4all.nl...
> John Hasler wrote:
>
> > And those posting from work,
I'm one of those - Internet access from home costs AND is slow.
Broadband in .au is NOT cheap.
> > and those who are using a browser set to
> > identify as IE...
>
> Good point, although I hate seeing Linux users being counted as Internet
> Explorer users. Really, I hate that.
We even have complaints about that on our *internal* web pages here.
> Sites that force me to identify as IE
> lose me as a visitor.
Sometimes there's little choice, particularly for work-related things.
> About the work computers: I'm just a smarta## who
> simply installs Debian on his box even though the rest of the company is
> working on Windoze ;-) It simply didn't cross my mind that someone could
be
> working at a company where that was not allowed / not possible.
It's both allowed and possible here, but not recommended. Unfortunately,
my current work stream involves finding defects (and/or the sources thereof)
in both embedded and Windoze applications that have been developed using
M$ VC.
> You know
> what? I'd even refuse to work at a company like that. I know, that's easy
> to say for someone who bulds webpages for a living (PHP and VIM are an
> excellent couple ;-))
Yes indeed. Being able to dictate job terms or change jobs easily - Luxury!
Try working in the telecomms industry for a while. :-(
Fortunately, my skills are broad enough to allow me to work in several
different
areas. Problem is, so are those of many of my (ex)colleagues who left this
field
before me.
Geoff
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| Paul Lutus 2002-10-14, 1:24 am |
| Sybren wrote:
> Michael Heiming wrote:
>
>> Newsreader (accumulated) top 10:
>> 1014 KNode 55.6%
>> 282 Microsoft 15.5%
>
> How on earth can a Microsoft newsreader be #2 in a Linux newsgroup?
>
> Now that I think of it... maybe the people that can't get Linux to install
> and ask for help here ;-)
Look at the message headers on your favorite regulars. You might be
surprised at who offers Linux expertise from Outlook Express, and top posts
as well.
--
Paul Lutus
www.arachnoid.com
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| Michael Heiming 2002-10-14, 1:24 am |
| Sybren (<aode8c$fv9$8@news1.xs4all.nl> ):
> John Hasler wrote:
>
>> And those posting from work, and those who are using a browser
>> set to identify as IE...
>
> Good point, although I hate seeing Linux users being counted as
> Internet Explorer users. Really, I hate that. Sites that force me
> to identify as IE lose me as a visitor. About the work computers:
> I'm just a smarta## who simply installs Debian on his box even
> though the rest of the company is working on Windoze ;-) It simply
> didn't cross my mind that someone could be working at a company
> where that was not allowed / not possible. You know what? I'd even
> refuse to work at a company like that. I know, that's easy to say
> for someone who bulds webpages for a living (PHP and VIM are an
> excellent couple ;-))
Thx for your comment, thought I would be the only one, who would
refuse to work for any company, which wouldn't allow me to run
Linux on my desktop
Michael Heiming
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| Michael Heiming 2002-10-14, 1:24 am |
| Brian Reichle (<3DAA4E7B.9070403@the.newsgroup> ):
> Sybren wrote:
>
>> Michael Heiming wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Newsreader (accumulated) top 10:
>>> 1014 KNode 55.6%
>>> 282 Microsoft 15.5%
>>>
>>
>> How on earth can a Microsoft newsreader be #2 in a Linux
>> newsgroup?
> is it just me or dose this question get asked every time Michael
Seems like
> post's these stats? (hmmm wasn't microsoft #1 last time? things
> seam to be improving)
Nope, it was #2 last time (16.8%), but things are improving
Michael Heiming
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| Robert Newson 2002-10-20, 1:24 pm |
| Sybren wrote:
> Michael Heiming wrote:
>
>
>>Newsreader (accumulated) top 10:
>> 1014 KNode 55.6%
>> 282 Microsoft 15.5%
>>
>
> How on earth can a Microsoft newsreader be #2 in a Linux newsgroup?
>
> Now that I think of it... maybe the people that can't get Linux to install
> and ask for help here ;-)
>
> Sybren
Cos of a co-up by my news source meant it was giving wrong error messages
when trying to post and so Mozilla was not prompting me for a uid/pw (they
use 'doze boxes) and so I was forced to use OE to post (for a while 'til a
solution was found).
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| dmz17 2002-10-21, 11:24 am |
|
> Thx for your comment, thought I would be the only one, who would
> refuse to work for any company, which wouldn't allow me to run
> Linux on my desktop
>
> Michael Heiming
> --
> Remove the +SIGNS case mail bounces.
Nope, me too. Still struggling though, cause said company employs
developers who think Javascript as defined by Microsoft is trendy.
Cheers,
dmz17
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| Sybren 2002-10-21, 11:24 am |
| dmz17 wrote:
> Nope, me too. Still struggling though, cause said company employs
> developers who think Javascript as defined by Microsoft is trendy.
auch... I really feel sorry for you, and I hope you can convince them
otherwise. I just got the company I work for to drop Outlook and use
Mozilla instead 
Sybren
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| Manuel Lanctot 2002-10-28, 8:24 pm |
| Michael Heiming wrote:
> Stats alt.os.linux (last 7 days)
<snip>
Are you planning on putting up graphics that show the evolution?
And wow, 104 masochists using Pan, that's funny.
--
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PACU Communications
Kidnapping your dog since 1913.
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| +Chiron+ 2002-10-28, 10:24 pm |
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On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:18:10 -0500, Manuel Lanctot tempted the fates in
alt.os.linux by proclaiming the following:
> And wow, 104 masochists using Pan, that's funny.
*poke poke*
You're posting with Knode, but ripping on PAN?
Now, _that_ is funny.
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| Michael Heiming 2002-10-29, 1:24 am |
| Manuel Lanctot (<ivlv9.3086$h_4.464006@news20.bellglobal.com> ):
> Michael Heiming wrote:
>
>> Stats alt.os.linux (last 7 days)
> <snip>
>
> Are you planning on putting up graphics that show the evolution?
Nope, usenet is ASCII
> And wow, 104 masochists using Pan, that's funny.
Perhaps, only a few poster are using pan, it just counts how many
different newsreader have been used, how many times to post.
Michael Heiming
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| HoboSong 2002-10-29, 3:24 am |
| I believe it was +Chiron+ who said...
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> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 20:18:10 -0500, Manuel Lanctot tempted the fates in
> alt.os.linux by proclaiming the following:
>
>> And wow, 104 masochists using Pan, that's funny.
>
> *poke poke*
>
> You're posting with Knode, but ripping on PAN?
>
> Now, _that_ is funny.
You're using slrn and ripping on Knode?
Hilarious!
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| +Chiron+ 2002-10-29, 5:24 am |
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On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:57:29 GMT, HoboSong tempted the fates in
alt.os.linux by proclaiming the following:
> You're using slrn and ripping on Knode?
>
> Hilarious!
Yup. =)
slrn kicks major XXX, whilst Knode is simply Krap.
For GUI-based newsreader, PAN still whoops Knode in several areas. =)
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| Jon Portnoy 2002-10-29, 10:25 am |
| In article <slrnarsokp.ct.Chiron_Files@raven.home>, +Chiron+ wrote:
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> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:57:29 GMT, HoboSong tempted the fates in
> alt.os.linux by proclaiming the following:
>
>> You're using slrn and ripping on Knode?
>>
>> Hilarious!
>
> Yup. =)
>
> slrn kicks major XXX, whilst Knode is simply Krap.
>
slrn is definitely the coolest newsreader out there.
<G>
--
Jon Portnoy
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| Paul Lutus 2002-10-29, 11:25 am |
| Michael Heiming wrote:
> Manuel Lanctot (<ivlv9.3086$h_4.464006@news20.bellglobal.com> ):
>
>> Michael Heiming wrote:
>>
>>> Stats alt.os.linux (last 7 days)
>> <snip>
>>
>> Are you planning on putting up graphics that show the evolution?
>
> Nope, usenet is ASCII
Umm, just for fun:
// TextGraph.java
public class TextGraph {
static String drawLine(double a, double scale)
{
StringBuffer s = new StringBuffer();
double q = (1 + Math.cos(a * Math.PI)) * scale;
for(int i = 0; i < q;i++) {
s.append('*');
}
return s.toString();
}
static void drawFunction()
{
final double scale = 20;
final double steps = 24;
for(double a = -1.0;a < 1.0;a += 1.0/steps) {
System.out.println(drawLine(a,scale));
}
}
public static void main(String[] args)
{
drawFunction();
}
}
# javac TextGraph.java
# java TextGraph
*
*
**
***
*****
******
********
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*************
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******************
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| HoboSong 2002-10-30, 2:25 am |
| I believe it was +Chiron+ who said...
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> On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 08:57:29 GMT, HoboSong tempted the fates in
> alt.os.linux by proclaiming the following:
>
>> You're using slrn and ripping on Knode?
>>
>> Hilarious!
>
> Yup. =)
>
> slrn kicks major XXX, whilst Knode is simply Krap.
I think you missed my joke...
>User-Agent: /bin/cat (textutils) 2.0.21
> For GUI-based newsreader, PAN still whoops Knode in several areas. =)
Actually I liked Pan, but I found it far from stable. Lots of random
lockups. Overkill for reading the news anyways, IMHO
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| Faux_Pseudo 2002-10-30, 3:24 am |
| _.--- HoboSong spoke in alt.os.linux --------._
>> *poke poke*
>>
>> You're posting with Knode, but ripping on PAN?
>>
>> Now, _that_ is funny.
>
> You're using slrn and ripping on Knode?
>
> Hilarious!
The joke is on you. knode will never be powerful as that slrn.
It is obvious that you have no experience with slrn because if
you did then you would hear the voices of all laughing at you.
Four lines all lined up and a flame all at the same time! W00t
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| Fredderic 2002-10-30, 11:24 am |
| > Actually I liked Pan, but I found it far from stable. Lots of random
> lockups. Overkill for reading the news anyways, IMHO
Thought the same of Evolution for normal email. Not used Pan yet.
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| +Chiron+ 2002-10-30, 11:24 am |
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 07:40:33 GMT, HoboSong tempted the fates in
alt.os.linux by proclaiming the following:
> I believe it was +Chiron+ who said...
>> Yup. =)
>>
>> slrn kicks major XXX, whilst Knode is simply Krap.
>
> I think you missed my joke...
> >User-Agent: /bin/cat (textutils) 2.0.21
I saw your customized header, it made me smile. =)
If I explained the joke it would have ruined it.
>> For GUI-based newsreader, PAN still whoops Knode in several areas. =)
>
> Actually I liked Pan, but I found it far from stable. Lots of random
> lockups. Overkill for reading the news anyways, IMHO
The gtk 1.x series *is* a bit on the flaky side, I'll admit.
Even the latest stable version (11.4) still likes to explode
occasionally for no apparent reason, not to mention the random lockups
that you described.
However, I've been experimenting with gtk 2.x lately, and although I
prefer to use a spartan WM (Blackbox), I wanted to see what all
the fuss was about in the 'new' Gtk, and so I've been playing with the
latest, stable gtk 2.x based pan. (13.1) for the last two weeks.
There's been some major changes between the two, not the least of which
is several magnitudes of stability.
While I completely concur with you that PAN is total bloat & overkill
for *text* groups (such as this one) it is very nice for binary groups.
I still use slrn for 'smaller' groups of binaries, but for large series
or amounts I still prefer to use Pan (13.1) =).
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| HoboSong 2002-10-30, 4:24 pm |
| I believe it was Faux_Pseudo who said...
> _.--- HoboSong spoke in alt.os.linux --------._
>>> *poke poke*
>>>
>>> You're posting with Knode, but ripping on PAN?
>>>
>>> Now, _that_ is funny.
>>
>> You're using slrn and ripping on Knode?
>>
>> Hilarious!
>
> The joke is on you. knode will never be powerful as that slrn.
> It is obvious that you have no experience with slrn because if
> you did then you would hear the voices of all laughing at you.
Oh, I hear voices alright. But the medications help.
Anyways, you dont have to tell me. If it werent for slrn, I
think Id probably give tin a try. I think Id rather use google
groups than knode.
> Four lines all lined up and a flame all at the same time! W00t
I see this group has a slrn mafia too ; )
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| Faux_Pseudo 2002-10-30, 5:24 pm |
| _.--- HoboSong spoke in alt.os.linux --------._
> I think Id rather use google groups than knode.
I might have to second second that.
> I see this group has a slrn mafia too ; )
Every group does. A superior product does that to people.
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| Faux_Pseudo 2002-10-30, 5:24 pm |
| _.--- +Chiron+ spoke in alt.os.linux --------._
> I still use slrn for 'smaller' groups of binaries, but for large series
> or amounts I still prefer to use Pan (13.1) =).
Automate the world! Screw downloading binaries by hand.
C-x i .newpr0n
pics 844 x
vids 15 x
mp3s 66 x
disk 43 x
mail 4 x
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| +Chiron+ 2002-10-31, 4:24 am |
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On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 22:50:02 GMT, Faux_Pseudo tempted the fates in
alt.os.linux by proclaiming the following:
> _.--- +Chiron+ spoke in alt.os.linux --------._
>> I still use slrn for 'smaller' groups of binaries, but for large series
>> or amounts I still prefer to use Pan (13.1) =).
>
> Automate the world! Screw downloading binaries by hand.
I don't have broadband anymnore, ya dyslexic drunkard.
I got's ta be picky-picky with my limited bandwidth - not to mention, not
tying up the phone all evening.
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| Faux_Pseudo 2002-10-31, 4:24 am |
| _.--- +Chiron+ spoke in alt.os.linux --------._
>> Automate the world! Screw downloading binaries by hand.
>
> I don't have broadband anymnore, ya dyslexic drunkard.
>
> I got's ta be picky-picky with my limited bandwidth - not to mention, not
> tying up the phone all evening.
I would respond to this now making some comment about maximising
online time via automation but I am to drunkard right now to bother.
So instead I will just say that it is all about the kill file.
+-(faux@fugozi)-(176/9)-(02:02:25:Thu Oct 31)-
+-($:~)-
972 .News/Score
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YIM=faux_pseudo : Rev: /bowie/misc/12_-_White_Light_White_Heat.mp3
I am the high you: Now: e_-_Hunky_Dory_14_-_Quicksand_(Demo_Version).mp3
can't sustain : Fwd: _Who_Sold_The_World_-_07_-_She_Shook_Me_Cold.mp3
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