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FlySwatter

2002-10-09, 12:24 am

Real newbie question.

So I can telnet in. Now I have to upload a file.


How do I do that?



TIA

AREALNEWIBIE
Richard Adams

2002-10-09, 1:24 am

In article < ptb7qucrq220ne8uq1tnbjghuh337e
m2nn@4ax.com>, "FlySwatter"
<ls986@hotnospammail.com> wrote:

> Real newbie question.
>
> So I can telnet in. Now I have to upload a file.
>
>
> How do I do that?
>


FTP

>
>
> TIA
>
> AREALNEWIBIE



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AthlonRob

2002-10-09, 2:24 am

On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 04:27:20 GMT, FlySwatter <ls986@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> Real newbie question.
>
> So I can telnet in. Now I have to upload a file.
>
>
> How do I do that?


Use FTP.

Rob :-)
Joachim Feise

2002-10-09, 2:24 am

AthlonRob wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Oct 2002 04:27:20 GMT, FlySwatter <ls986@hotNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Real newbie question.
>>
>>So I can telnet in. Now I have to upload a file.
>>
>>
>>How do I do that?

>
>
> Use FTP.


Umm, FTP is not secure. Username and password are transmitted in clear text.
Use scp from the OpenSSH suite.
For the same reason, you should not use telnet. Use ssh instead.

-Joe

ERA

2002-10-09, 12:24 pm

FlySwatter, ls986@hotNOSPAMmail.com wrote:

> So I can telnet in. Now I have to upload a file.
>
> How do I do that?


Make sure Columbia University's C-Kermit product is on both ends. Open
c-kermit (kermit), telnet from within c-kermit to your destination,
cd to the directory where you want to "get" or "send" files, start
c-kermit on the remote end and use the commands "get somefile" or
"send somefile" to transfer. To learn more about kermit see:

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/

or look at &| post in newsgroup:

comp.protocols.kermit.misc

I've x-posted this reply to that NG with followup to alt.os.linux.

Others will say to not use telnet. IIRC, there is also a secure
version of C-Kermit available from the site that can use encryption,
etc. Frank? Are you reading this?

You may already have c-kermit on your Linux box. Try typing "kermit"
at a CLI (don't type the quotation marks).

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Frank da Cruz

2002-10-09, 12:24 pm

In article <1117292.rkQq0lBPeG@era1.eracc.UUCP>,
: ...
: Others will say to not use telnet. IIRC, there is also a secure
: version of C-Kermit available from the site that can use encryption,
: etc. Frank? Are you reading this?
:
: You may already have c-kermit on your Linux box. Try typing "kermit"
: at a CLI (don't type the quotation marks).
:
The current version of C-Kermit is 8.0:

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckermit.html

It can be built (from source code) to include any combination of
Kerberos 4, Kerberos 5, SSL/TLS, or SRP security. It can also make SSH
connections through the external SSH client.

Contrary to popular belief, secure Telnet does exist and servers are
available:

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/telnetd.html

- Frank
AthlonRob

2002-10-09, 2:24 pm

On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 23:42:37 -0700, Joachim Feise <jfeise@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
>>>So I can telnet in. Now I have to upload a file.

>>
>> Use FTP.

>
> Umm, FTP is not secure. Username and password are transmitted in clear text.
> Use scp from the OpenSSH suite.
> For the same reason, you should not use telnet. Use ssh instead.


If they're using telnet... they don't care about security.

If they were using SSH, then yeah, SCP would be better than FTP. :-)

But I definitely got the impression they didn't much care about
security.

Rob
Jason

2002-10-09, 3:24 pm


"AthlonRob" <athlonrob@nodomainhere.ext> wrote in message
news:5ht1oa.rhj.ln@dsl-gervais-88.web-ster.com...
> On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 23:42:37 -0700, Joachim Feise <jfeise@ics.uci.edu>

wrote:
> >>>So I can telnet in. Now I have to upload a file.
> >>
> >> Use FTP.

> >
> > Umm, FTP is not secure. Username and password are transmitted in clear

text.
> > Use scp from the OpenSSH suite.
> > For the same reason, you should not use telnet. Use ssh instead.

>
> If they're using telnet... they don't care about security.
>
> If they were using SSH, then yeah, SCP would be better than FTP. :-)
>
> But I definitely got the impression they didn't much care about
> security.
>
> Rob


Maybe they don't know about SSH? Hey it could happen.


FlySwatter

2002-10-11, 9:24 am

Thanks to all.

Yup it is SSH and I just discovered SCP. Now to see if I can figure
out how to use it...



Andreas Mattern

2002-10-11, 10:24 am

AthlonRob <athlonrob@nodomainhere.ext> wrote:
> But I definitely got the impression they didn't much care about
> security.


They might not but I sure do, after all their machine might be the next one
compromised to launch the worm/DOS/whatever of the day at me. So let's teach
them to use ssh from the beginning.

Andreas
DJM

2002-10-14, 3:24 pm

On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, FlySwatter wrote:

> Thanks to all.
>
> Yup it is SSH and I just discovered SCP. Now to see if I can figure
> out how to use it...
>


I've never learned SCP or how to "tunnel" FTP (or anything else for that
matter) through SSH, so here's how I do it:

I use Tera Term Pro (requires additional Tera Term SSH download; both are
free), which has worked well enough for me for connecting from my Windows
boxen to my Linux server. (SecureTTY I like better, but it costs money,
which I don't have.)

If I'm sending a file to my Linux box, I type "rz" and hit enter. That
sets it up for receiving a file by zmodem. I then go to my Tera Term File
menu, Transfer, ZModem, Send, and select the file(s).

The other way, I type "sz (filename)", and go File, Transfer, ZModem,
Receive.

My biggest complaint is that Tera Term doesn't let you specify the
download directory; it receives files in its last-open directory (which
starts out as C:\Program Files\Tera Term Pro). But hey, it's free....

Zak McGregor

2002-10-15, 10:25 am

On Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:54:11 +0200, DJM wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, FlySwatter wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all.
>>
>> Yup it is SSH and I just discovered SCP. Now to see if I can figure out
>> how to use it...
>>
>>

> I've never learned SCP or how to "tunnel" FTP (or anything else for that
> matter) through SSH, so here's how I do it:
>

[snip]

google for putty, pscp and secure iexplorer - these 3 things are all
_really_ Free (as in GPL), and will make the living hell you've just
described melt away

HTH

Ciao

Zak
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