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Mark

2002-10-06, 12:24 pm

Hi all,
I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now
I have been programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just
enough experience with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install.
I have not yet mastered software installation, but I have located
the resources to do it.
My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?


dmz17

2002-10-06, 12:24 pm

On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 11:28:09 +0000, Mark wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
> with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now
> I have been programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just
> enough experience with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install.
> I have not yet mastered software installation, but I have located
> the resources to do it.
> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
> kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?


Whatever you get that's younger than, say 2 years, will run fine.
as always, the more recent the better. Depends on what you want it
for.

Cheers,

dmz17
Joel Rosenberg

2002-10-06, 12:24 pm

Mark <mjones1215@charter.net> writes:

> Hi all,
> I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
> with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now
> I have been programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just
> enough experience with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install.
> I have not yet mastered software installation, but I have located
> the resources to do it.
> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
> kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?
>
>


No. But a recent stable kernel is, generally, a good idea. That
said, upgrading the kernel from rpm isn't at all difficult.
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Jukka-Pekka Suominen

2002-10-06, 12:24 pm

Mark wrote:
> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
> kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?


Depends. Some software needs kernel version 2.4 or later, but most should
work just fine. Depending on your hardware I might suggest (and warmly
recommend) installing mandrake 9.0. There's so much new nice things in it
compared to 7.2 that if you just have fairly new hardware (~400MHz
processor, 128MB ram) I'd strongly recommend upgrading. Also, if you have
very new hardware (say one-two years old at most) you'll probably benefit
from an upgrade as well.

-JP
John Hasler

2002-10-06, 1:24 pm

Mark writes:
> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable kernel in
> order to load and run the software out there now?


No. Very few user applications interact directly with the kernel.
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
Andrew S.

2002-10-06, 2:24 pm

On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 10:28:09 -0600, Mark wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
> with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now I have been
> programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just enough experience
> with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install. I have not yet mastered
> software installation, but I have located the resources to do it.
> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
> kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?


No, you do not usually need to update your kernel everytime a new one
comes out. Although, sometimes new kernels are neccessary if your new
hardware is not supported.

Updates are neccessary however on certain applications. ie: web
browser, http servers, ftp servers, ... (anything that connects to the
internet (and some other stuff)) Simply for security sake, you'll also
find that security updates come far more frequently on linux apps,
because holes are fixed as they are found, they don't sit around 8 months
before they fix critical holes (unlike some other products out there :P).
So it is allways an important task to keep your machine up to date.

-Andrew S.
Richard Adams

2002-10-06, 3:24 pm

In article <uq0p78j2cfsbf8@corp.supernews.com>, "Mark"
<mjones1215@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
> I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
> with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now I have been
> programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just enough experience
> with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install. I have not yet mastered
> software installation, but I have located the resources to do it.
> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
> kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?
>
>


One word, No.


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Regards Richard
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http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Joachim Feise

2002-10-06, 3:24 pm

Richard Adams wrote:
> In article <uq0p78j2cfsbf8@corp.supernews.com>, "Mark"
> <mjones1215@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi all,
>> I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
>>with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now I have been
>>programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just enough experience
>>with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install. I have not yet mastered
>>software installation, but I have located the resources to do it.
>> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
>>kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?
>>
>>

>
>
> One word, No.


You should, however, make sure that you keep your applications up to date,
to avoid viruses and worms taking advantage of your machine.

Richard Adams

2002-10-06, 3:24 pm

In article <anq3tf$n9i$1@news.service.uci.edu>, "Joachim Feise"
<jfeise@ics.uci.edu> wrote:

> Richard Adams wrote:
>> In article <uq0p78j2cfsbf8@corp.supernews.com>, "Mark"
>> <mjones1215@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>> I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
>>>with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now I have been
>>>programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just enough
>>>experience with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install. I have not yet
>>>mastered software installation, but I have located the resources to do
>>>it.
>>> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
>>>kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> One word, No.

>
> You should, however, make sure that you keep your applications up to
> date, to avoid viruses and worms taking advantage of your machine.
>


Excuss me.?


--
Regards Richard
pa3gcu@zeelandnet.nl
http://people.zeelandnet.nl/pa3gcu/
Kurt

2002-10-06, 8:25 pm



Joel Rosenberg wrote:

> No. But a recent stable kernel is, generally, a good idea. That
> said, upgrading the kernel from rpm isn't at all difficult.


I've not had much trouble with older kernels, but older libraries can
sometimes cause problems (luckily I tend to install most things via
source, so that usually isn't too much of a problem).

- Kurt

Mark

2002-10-06, 11:26 pm

Richard Adams wrote:

> In article <anq3tf$n9i$1@news.service.uci.edu>, "Joachim Feise"
> <jfeise@ics.uci.edu> wrote:
>
> > Richard Adams wrote:
> >> In article <uq0p78j2cfsbf8@corp.supernews.com>, "Mark"
> >> <mjones1215@charter.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi all,
> >>> I have recently made the plunge from Microcrash to Linux,
> >>>with the hope of regaining control of my box. For years now I have been
> >>>programmed by big Bill newer is nessecary. I have just enough
> >>>experience with linux Mandrake 7.2 to do a text install. I have not yet
> >>>mastered software installation, but I have located the resources to do
> >>>it.
> >>> My question is this. Is it nessecary to have the latest stable
> >>>kernel in order to load and run the software out there now?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> One word, No.

> >
> > You should, however, make sure that you keep your applications up to
> > date, to avoid viruses and worms taking advantage of your machine.
> >

>
> Excuss me.?
>
>

Ok, Thank you all for your advice. I gather that
updating is more situation defendant than it was
with that other OS. I am going to take some time
and learn all I can about my box as it is now.
This group is an incredible tool when all other
resources leave questions.
Thank you again

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