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| I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time, and
SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
Thanks
Jimi
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| Gerhard 2002-10-03, 8:25 am |
| "Jimi" <jimijames at ananzi dot co dot za> wrote:
> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time,
> and SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
>
> Thanks
> Jimi
Hello there,
SUSE is as good as Mandrake or RedHat. Make sure you know why tou want to
move to linux and don't expect to do any serious work in a hurry. It is
much better for everything internet than windows and that is what I use it
for only.
Gerhard
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| Dumb Terminal 2002-10-03, 10:25 am |
| Jimi wrote:
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> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time, and
> SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
>
> Thanks
> Jimi
I started out with Slackware, now use SuSE its best derivative, but
am considering migrating back to or at least adding Slackware again.
They're tops for me.
SuSE isn't any good... it's the best... but it's gettin' a little...
and this is where I run into trouble trying to put a finger on it.
I DON'T KNOW WHY my guts are telling me to call Slackie back.
Nothing prevents you from installing both of them, 2 of each even,
kick them around and see what you like.
Do you drive a manual or an automatic? I wouldn't just pull plug
on Windows, learning Linux is a paradigm double-shift for anyone
who's never seen it or unix before.
Remove 3 stars from k*oct*02f@vid*eotron.ca
--
She only wanted to interface, I wanted to access the mainframe,
and before the cock crowed next, lost we were in Plug & Play.
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| In article <3d9c2d74$0$18846@hades.is.co.za>, Jimi wrote:
> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time, and
> SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
Here's my little quiz to help you choose a distribution:
*************************
This is a test to see which Linux or other Unix-like distribution
would suit your needs, based on objective, sensible questions.
__The Basics__
1) Will you be comfortable working on a console for most of your basic needs?
a) what's a console?
b) a little but more comfortable with GUI tools
c) absolutely!
2) What level do you consider your Linux skills to be at?
a) what skills?
b) low-level, user skills only
c) expert, high-level, administration skills
3) How much free time do you have?
a) none
b) some, but not unlimited
c) lots
__A Bit More__
4) Do you have friends who use Linux?
a) no, none
b) a rare one or two
c) several
5) If you have a problem you just can't solve, would you....
a) say "Linux is broken!" and return to Windows
b) post to a newsgroup saying "My xmms doesn't work!"
c) research on Google-groups and THEN politely post to newsgroups with
complete details including an error message and what distribution you're
running on what hardware, and keep IRC in your head as a backup plan
6) Do you care WHY your computer does what it does, when something fails?
a) not at all
b) only the big things, like "you have no drivers for your hardware"
c) YES! absolutely, I want to know why it does everything it does!
7) What do you want to do with your Linux machine?
a) just daily activities and perhaps play some music or movies
b) daily activities plus some learning and experimentation
c) I want to run a server hosting multiple websites and email
__The Results__
Mostly As: You don't have much time, you don't have much interest, you're
inexperienced with computers. You probably want to stick with
one of the larger, more well-supported distributions such as
RedHat, SuSE, or Mandrake so you can get the maximum
amount of assistance if/when things go wrong, and have most
of your software already at hand.
Mostly Bs: You may be somewhat inexperienced, but you're ready and willing
to learn, and are in generally the right place. Your
best bet is to try a more advanced but very stable
distribution such as Slackware or Debian, the learning
curve is a little higher (read: it's harder starting
out), but you'll learn much much more.
Mostly Cs: You're experienced, you've got time, you've got
knowledge, ambition and bandwidth, you can try
Slackware or freeBSD* or create your own distribution
with LinuxFromScratch.
Otherwise, research your own options in distributions
(see distrowatch.com) or go with one that's still
under development, such as Gentoo. But why are you
asking me??
**2c + 3c + 4c indicate you might be one of the people who has the time
to try multiple distributions until you find the one you like the best.
Check out linuxiso.com and go to it! 
*FreeBSD is not a Linux, but it is another Unix-Like system, if you are
interested, do some research on Google.
created/edited by sl
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| Gerhard wrote:
> "Jimi" <jimijames at ananzi dot co dot za> wrote:
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>> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time,
>> and SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jimi
> Hello there,
> SUSE is as good as Mandrake or RedHat. Make sure you know why tou want to
> move to linux and don't expect to do any serious work in a hurry. It is
> much better for everything internet than windows and that is what I use it
> for only.
> Gerhard
I use SuSE 8.0 pro for most of my work (I have SuSE and Win ME on a dual
boot system). I use Star office for letters reports etc. I use GIMP for
photo processing (as powerful as Photoshop IMHO but I admit it dosn't look
as pretty). I print on a Lexmark Z35 printer (Linux drivers from Lexmark
website) and play games (occasionaly) with 3D acceleration (NVidia drivers
on website AND available via YAST online update).My son is very fond of
Tuxracer and Tuxcart. I like Flightgear.
Oh and I use EveryBuddy to chat with friends on AIM and MSN.
I've used Red Hat, Mandrake 8.0 and 8.2 and SuSE. It's very close but SuSE
gets my vote over Mandrake because of the written material provided if you
buy the 'Pro' boxed set. (Worth every penny IMHO).
One factore may make a difference to you. SuSE is a German company and the
distro is Eurocentric (is that a word?). Since I live in the UK that's fine
by me. You have to decide for yourself.
Enjoy either way !
John.
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| I'm a RH fan .. But SuSE is good too. It has a really **BAD** install/setup
IMO.
It is real popular in Europe over RH .
IMO - SuSE 7.x has lacked support of medium /newer age machines
made here in the states. You may want to check the supported
systems/HW on their web site before you take the jump.
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"Jimi" <jimijames at ananzi dot co dot za> wrote in message
news:3d9c2d74$0$18846@hades.is.co.za...
> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time,
and
> SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
>
> Thanks
> Jimi
>
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| I like SuSE far better than Red Hat or Mandrake.
Though Lycoris is the distrobution I am currently using.
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| Veritas 2002-10-04, 2:25 am |
| Jimi wrote:
> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time, and
> SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
>
> Thanks
> Jimi
>
After many years of using that other OS, I recently installed the SuSE
Linux 7.3 Personal I had bought back around February. This is installed
dual boot on a 1 GHz Athlon PC, 256 Mb RAM, 20 Gb H.D., integrated 56K
modem, SiS 630/730 integrated graphics (64 Mb dedicated). I use the KDE
desktop and apps,plus Star Office, which are all quite good, avoiding
the command line as much as possible.
SuSE and I started out by slapping each other around for a few days. We
each took a few face-down trips to the mat, coming away a little punch
drunk and bruised. Coffee breaks, some book learning, a little cussing,
a bit of luck, some help from wonderfully knowledgeable people on
alt.os.linux.suse, with two or three reinstalls along the way, and now
we're getting along pretty well. Most of the time <G>.
If you go for it, SuSE is a good bet. The install system is well thought
out and fairly bulletproof,and the distro recognized my hardware
essentials without grief (video, sound card, Zip, CD ROM, CDRW drives,
etc.).I can't compare it to Red Hat,which I haven't used, except that I
have noticed that in the U.S., at least, you'll see more books and
magazine articles about Red Hat Linux than SuSE, which comes from
Germany and is the leading Linux distro in Europe.
Finally, whatever distro you adopt, keep in mind that Linux, its apps,
games and utilities are developed by many different people in different
countries working in free association. That other OS is the product of a
fairly disciplined and well-oiled corporate operation.
Also, behind Linux is a general notion that most who use it will be
setting up and operating not just a PC for one user but a network for
several or many, and the one who sets up that network will most likely
know some kind of object-oriented programming. Distros like SuSE and Red
Hat make it possible for non-networking, nonprogrammer types like me to
make a go of it, but it helps to know where Linux is coming from
because you will encounter things which, from your experience with that
other OS, will make you wonder why they did this this way, or why can't
it do like such and such.
A visit to the SuSE and linuxnewbies.org Web sites might be helpful.
Good luck!
--
V
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| Veritas 2002-10-04, 2:25 am |
| Jimi wrote:
> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time, and
> SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
>
> Thanks
> Jimi
>
>
After many years of using that other OS, I recently installed the SuSE
Linux 7.3 Personal I had bought back around February. This is installed
dual boot on a 1 GHz Athlon PC, 256 Mb RAM, 20 Gb H.D., integrated 56K
modem, SiS 630/730 integrated graphics (64 Mb dedicated). I use the KDE
desktop and apps,plus Star Office, which are all quite good, avoiding
the command line as much as possible.
SuSE and I started out by slapping each other around for a few days. We
each took a few face-down trips to the mat, coming away a little punch
drunk and bruised. Coffee breaks, some book learning, a little cussing,
a bit of luck, some help from wonderfully knowledgeable people on
alt.os.linux.suse, with two or three reinstalls along the way, and now
we're getting along pretty well. Most of the time <G>.
If you go for it, SuSE is a good bet. The install system is well thought
out and fairly bulletproof,and the distro recognized my hardware
essentials without grief (video, sound card, Zip, CD ROM, CDRW drives,
etc.).I can't compare it to Red Hat,which I haven't used, except that I
have noticed that in the U.S., at least, you'll see more books and
magazine articles about Red Hat Linux than SuSE, which comes from
Germany and is the leading Linux distro in Europe.
Finally, whatever distro you adopt, keep in mind that Linux, its apps,
games and utilities are developed by many different people in different
countries working in free association. That other OS is the product of a
fairly disciplined and well-oiled corporate operation.
Also, behind Linux is a general notion that most who use it will be
setting up and operating not just a PC for one user but a network for
several or many, and the one who sets up that network will most likely
know some kind of object-oriented programming. Distros like SuSE and Red
Hat make it possible for non-networking, nonprogrammer types like me to
make a go of it, but it helps to know where Linux is coming from
because you will encounter things which, from your experience with that
other OS, will make you wonder why they did this this way, or why can't
it do like such and such.
A visit to the SuSE and linuxnewbies.org Web sites might be helpful.
Good luck!
--
V
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| ken@kenwstevens.net 2002-10-06, 1:24 pm |
| I have used Suse for quite a while with absolutely no complaints. :-)
Ken
Jimi <jimijames at ananzi dot co dot za> wrote:
> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time, and
> SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
> Thanks
> Jimi
--
Norman Schwartzkof: "I believe that forgiving them is God's
function. Our job is simply to arrange the meeting."
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| ken@kenwstevens.net 2002-10-06, 1:24 pm |
| A while back I was running Redhat. I also had a Ricochet wireless modem
(before they went out of business), but could not get Redhat to
recognize it. I bought a distro of Suse and it was recognized out of the
box. That is when I converted! :-)
Ken
Muff <jsnmaj@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I like SuSE far better than Red Hat or Mandrake.
> Though Lycoris is the distrobution I am currently using.
--
Unshared joy is an unlighted candle.
-Spanish Proverb
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| David Dutchison 2002-10-07, 5:24 pm |
| Jimi <> wrote:
> I'm looking to step bravely into the world of linux for the first time, and
> SuSE looks quite nice. Anyone have any suggestions either way?
>
> Thanks
> Jimi
I think SuSE is an excellent choice. Sucseeds in being highly user/newbie
friendly while still being an industrial grade distro.
Get to know your hardware first. If you have to open the case to find out
what's in the box, do so. Use Windows to get as much info on your hardware
as you can and write it down - even if you don't understand what it all
means. Then check for any hardware incompatabilities ...
http://www.eskimo.com/~lo/linux/hardwarelinks.html
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-Hard...OWTO/index.html
As everyone else has told you, don't trash Windows until you're sure Linux
meets all your needs, and you know your way around. By the same token, If
you find Linux horribly frustrating, don't trash it either. Just go back to
Win for a few weeks ;-)
I'd recomend forking out the extra $$$ for the SuSE Pro version. It has
more software then you'll ever need, but that makes it easy to experiment
and learn what packages you really want.
If you haven't come across these already...
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/
http://www.speedygrl.com/nix.html (lots'a Linux links)
http://www.tldp.org/ (linux documentation project)
"have a lot of fun"
--
David Dutchison
bizness_[spelled corectkly!]address@telus.net
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| GetLinuxCD 2002-10-11, 11:24 am |
| Suse is good but only available in box set.
I prefer Mandrake myself.
Get your Linux CD here!
http://getlinuxcd.no-ip.com
"Most people don't want to change. They may hate Windows but they run
it despite that because, quite frankly, they don't care about computers."
-- Linux Trovalds
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| Oh my no there are sights with the isos for 8.0 and you can do a ftp install
also. You will be able to do a ftp install of 8.1 when they get it on the
servers.
"GetLinuxCD" <getlinuxcd@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:B9CD0DF0.2136%getlinuxcd@myrealbox.com...
> Suse is good but only available in box set.
> I prefer Mandrake myself.
>
> Get your Linux CD here!
> http://getlinuxcd.no-ip.com
>
> "Most people don't want to change. They may hate Windows but they run
> it despite that because, quite frankly, they don't care about computers."
> -- Linux Trovalds
>
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| Paul Matthews 2002-10-26, 1:25 pm |
| wb wrote:
>I'm a RH fan .. But SuSE is good too. It has a really **BAD** install/setup
>IMO.
Just done 8.1 - boringly simple (other than the USB wireless lan)
--
Paul Matthews
paul@hepcats.co.uk
http://www.hepcats.co.uk
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