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osama bin kenobi

2002-09-26, 7:29 am

Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!

So...where do you want to go today? :^P
Woofbert

2002-09-26, 11:29 am

In article < 9ts5puojjl5k2rknu54f737kpnqju6
4qrg@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote:

> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>
> So...where do you want to go today? :^P


You know, because of those unrelated newsgroups, I thought that was just
a silly attempt to troll. But nevertheless, I tried it. It's true. =
Nice find.

--
Woofbert, Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
Now that Mac OS is based on Unix, does that mean we have to adopt the same
cutesy lame-XXX plurali standarden as the rest of the Unix world?
Woofbert

2002-09-26, 12:29 pm

In article < 9ts5puojjl5k2rknu54f737kpnqju6
4qrg@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote:

> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>
> So...where do you want to go today? :^P


You know, because of those unrelated newsgroups, I thought that was just
a silly attempt to troll. But nevertheless, I tried it. It's true. =
Nice find.

--
Woofbert, Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
Now that Mac OS is based on Unix, does that mean we have to adopt the same
cutesy lame-XXX plurali standarden as the rest of the Unix world?
Bruce Burhans

2002-09-26, 12:29 pm


"osama bin kenobi" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
news:9ts5puojjl5k2rknu54f737kp
nqju64qrg@4ax.com...
> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>
> So...where do you want to go today? :^P
>


You are talking about M$.....I am talking about the
system that M$ is a representative member of....And
it is not intrinscically different than any other business in
that context...

I don't go to M$.com They follow you home....

Bruce<+>


Bruce Burhans

2002-09-26, 1:30 pm


"osama bin kenobi" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
news:9ts5puojjl5k2rknu54f737kp
nqju64qrg@4ax.com...
> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>
> So...where do you want to go today? :^P
>


You are talking about M$.....I am talking about the
system that M$ is a representative member of....And
it is not intrinscically different than any other business in
that context...

I don't go to M$.com They follow you home....

Bruce<+>


RobinM

2002-09-27, 3:29 pm

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
wrote:

>Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>
>So...where do you want to go today? :^P


Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
using a Mac......

RobinM

2002-09-27, 4:29 pm

On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
wrote:

>Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>
>So...where do you want to go today? :^P


Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
using a Mac......

Fibercut

2002-09-27, 4:29 pm

On 9/27/02 4:53 PM, in article r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajta
do1d0ri4t96@4ax.com
,
"RobinM" <floydthebarber@mayberry.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>
>> So...where do you want to go today? :^P

>
> Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> using a Mac......
>

Wrong. On my Linux Box, Windows 2000 Box (at work) you still get the same
thing. You forgot to use "go to hell" <--- Note use quotation marks. Plus
learn to have a sense of humor.

Fibercut

2002-09-27, 5:29 pm

On 9/27/02 4:53 PM, in article r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajta
do1d0ri4t96@4ax.com
,
"RobinM" <floydthebarber@mayberry.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> wrote:
>
>> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>
>> So...where do you want to go today? :^P

>
> Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> using a Mac......
>

Wrong. On my Linux Box, Windows 2000 Box (at work) you still get the same
thing. You forgot to use "go to hell" <--- Note use quotation marks. Plus
learn to have a sense of humor.

don

2002-09-27, 5:29 pm

RobinM wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> wrote:
>
>>Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>
>>So...where do you want to go today? :^P

>
> Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> using a Mac......

Odd, My box shows microsoft in the #a kit spot and aol at #3, As does my
wife's win98, and stepson's win2k.
Tim

2002-09-27, 5:29 pm

I got www.hell.com also, and I did use the quotation marks: "go to hell".


"Fibercut" <fibercut@nospam.really.com> wrote in message
news:B9BA42F1.152C2%fibercut@nospam.really.com...
> On 9/27/02 4:53 PM, in article r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajta
do1d0ri4t96@4ax.com
,
> "RobinM" <floydthebarber@mayberry.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
> >>
> >> So...where do you want to go today? :^P

> >
> > Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> > using a Mac......
> >

> Wrong. On my Linux Box, Windows 2000 Box (at work) you still get the same
> thing. You forgot to use "go to hell" <--- Note use quotation marks. Plus
> learn to have a sense of humor.
>



Peter Karlsson

2002-09-27, 7:29 pm

In article < r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajtado1d0ri
4t96@4ax.com>, RobinM wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> wrote:
>
>>Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>
>>So...where do you want to go today? :^P

>
> Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> using a Mac......


http://w1.331.telia.com/~u33113441/go_to_hell.png


HTH,
Peter
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"Gentoo Linux - Because I'm worth it!"
Peter Karlsson

2002-09-27, 8:29 pm

In article < r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajtado1d0ri
4t96@4ax.com>, RobinM wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> wrote:
>
>>Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>
>>So...where do you want to go today? :^P

>
> Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> using a Mac......


http://w1.331.telia.com/~u33113441/go_to_hell.png


HTH,
Peter
--
My email address is munged. Drop YOUR PANTS...
Registered GNU/Linux User # 279409 (http://counter.li.org)
"Gentoo Linux - Because I'm worth it!"
Ari Ukkonen

2002-09-27, 9:29 pm

try goole.com
"Tim" <tttaff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:up9p6j21kvot2c@corp.supernews.com...
> I got www.hell.com also, and I did use the quotation marks: "go to hell".
>
>
> "Fibercut" <fibercut@nospam.really.com> wrote in message
> news:B9BA42F1.152C2%fibercut@nospam.really.com...
> > On 9/27/02 4:53 PM, in article

[email]r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajta
do1d0ri4t96@4ax.com[/ email],
> > "RobinM" <floydthebarber@mayberry.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
> > >>
> > >> So...where do you want to go today? :^P
> > >
> > > Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> > > using a Mac......
> > >

> > Wrong. On my Linux Box, Windows 2000 Box (at work) you still get the

same
> > thing. You forgot to use "go to hell" <--- Note use quotation marks.

Plus
> > learn to have a sense of humor.
> >

>
>



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Ari Ukkonen

2002-09-27, 10:29 pm

try goole.com
"Tim" <tttaff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:up9p6j21kvot2c@corp.supernews.com...
> I got www.hell.com also, and I did use the quotation marks: "go to hell".
>
>
> "Fibercut" <fibercut@nospam.really.com> wrote in message
> news:B9BA42F1.152C2%fibercut@nospam.really.com...
> > On 9/27/02 4:53 PM, in article

[email]r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajta
do1d0ri4t96@4ax.com[/ email],
> > "RobinM" <floydthebarber@mayberry.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
> > >>
> > >> So...where do you want to go today? :^P
> > >
> > > Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
> > > using a Mac......
> > >

> > Wrong. On my Linux Box, Windows 2000 Box (at work) you still get the

same
> > thing. You forgot to use "go to hell" <--- Note use quotation marks.

Plus
> > learn to have a sense of humor.
> >

>
>



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Leonid S

2002-09-28, 3:28 am

On 9/26/2002 21:09 impersonator of "Bruce Burhans"
<bburhan1@earthlink.net> planted &I saw in alt.conspiracy:
>
> "osama bin kenobi" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
> news:9ts5puojjl5k2rknu54f737kp
nqju64qrg@4ax.com...
>> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>
>> So...where do you want to go today? :^P
>>

Lunix!, Mass.ka;^p)
>
> You are talking about M$.....I am talking about the
> system that M$ is a representative member of....And
> it is not intrinscically different than any other business in
> that context...
>
> I don't go to M$.com They follow you home....
>

Well said. Its true

> Bruce<+>
>
>

--
19th rule of a militAry playEr: `Don't think - enemy/fri'end;/'ll know`

<- i-self -> posted articles archive: http://nux.home.dk3.com/doc00.htm
Leonid S

2002-09-28, 4:29 am

On 9/26/2002 21:09 impersonator of "Bruce Burhans"
<bburhan1@earthlink.net> planted &I saw in alt.conspiracy:
>
> "osama bin kenobi" <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote in message
> news:9ts5puojjl5k2rknu54f737kp
nqju64qrg@4ax.com...
>> Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>
>> So...where do you want to go today? :^P
>>

Lunix!, Mass.ka;^p)
>
> You are talking about M$.....I am talking about the
> system that M$ is a representative member of....And
> it is not intrinscically different than any other business in
> that context...
>
> I don't go to M$.com They follow you home....
>

Well said. Its true

> Bruce<+>
>
>

--
19th rule of a militAry playEr: `Don't think - enemy/fri'end;/'ll know`

<- i-self -> posted articles archive: http://nux.home.dk3.com/doc00.htm
Geoff Blackmore

2002-09-29, 8:29 am

The claim of what comes up if you type this into google is an urban myth
going back almost as long as google as existed.



Geoff Blackmore

2002-09-29, 9:29 am

The claim of what comes up if you type this into google is an urban myth
going back almost as long as google as existed.



don

2002-09-29, 10:29 am

Geoff Blackmore wrote:

> The claim of what comes up if you type this into google is an urban myth
> going back almost as long as google as existed.

The claim is not an urban myth idiot, it shows www.microsoft.com in the #1
hit spot and aol in the #3.
don

2002-09-29, 11:29 am

Geoff Blackmore wrote:

> The claim of what comes up if you type this into google is an urban myth
> going back almost as long as google as existed.

The claim is not an urban myth idiot, it shows www.microsoft.com in the #1
hit spot and aol in the #3.
I'll include it

2002-09-30, 1:29 am

Also spracht "Peter Karlsson <gijoe.YOUR@PANTS.mail.nu> "on Sat, 28
Sep 2002 00:00:50 GMT:

>In article < r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajtado1d0ri
4t96@4ax.com>, RobinM wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>>
>>>So...where do you want to go today? :^P

>>
>> Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
>> using a Mac......


I just did it and got hell.com as well. But when I did it a few days
ago, it was indeed microsoft.com

On yahoo it's microsoft.com
I'll include it

2002-09-30, 2:29 am

Also spracht "Peter Karlsson <gijoe.YOUR@PANTS.mail.nu> "on Sat, 28
Sep 2002 00:00:50 GMT:

>In article < r6h9puk2fh0g3bmcnc6ajtado1d0ri
4t96@4ax.com>, RobinM wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 11:47:16 GMT, osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Notice what comes up first? www.microsoft.com !!!!!!
>>>
>>>So...where do you want to go today? :^P

>>
>> Odd...on mine www.hell.com comes up first. Then again perhaps you're
>> using a Mac......


I just did it and got hell.com as well. But when I did it a few days
ago, it was indeed microsoft.com

On yahoo it's microsoft.com
osama bin kenobi

2002-09-30, 3:28 am

Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
osama bin kenobi

2002-09-30, 4:28 am

Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
Gregory L. Hansen

2002-09-30, 7:29 am

In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.



Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
but not now.


--
"A nice adaptation of conditions will make almost any hypothesis agree
with the phenomena. This will please the imagination but does not advance
our knowledge." -- J. Black, 1803.

Gregory L. Hansen

2002-09-30, 8:29 am

In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.



Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
but not now.


--
"A nice adaptation of conditions will make almost any hypothesis agree
with the phenomena. This will please the imagination but does not advance
our knowledge." -- J. Black, 1803.

Ken Bradford

2002-09-30, 11:29 am

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:06:50 -0500, "Tim" <tttaff@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I got www.hell.com also, and I did use the quotation marks: "go to hell".
>
>

It seems to have been changed. On Friday (?) it was www.microsoft.com,
today its www.hell.com.

Ken
Ken Bradford

2002-09-30, 12:29 pm

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:06:50 -0500, "Tim" <tttaff@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I got www.hell.com also, and I did use the quotation marks: "go to hell".
>
>

It seems to have been changed. On Friday (?) it was www.microsoft.com,
today its www.hell.com.

Ken
Peter Karlsson

2002-09-30, 5:29 pm

In article < ei1hpu8j4kuaksp889ph7al7ghn4l6
nq4r@4ax.com>, Ken Bradford wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:06:50 -0500, "Tim" <tttaff@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I got www.hell.com also, and I did use the quotation marks: "go to hell".
>>
>>

> It seems to have been changed. On Friday (?) it was www.microsoft.com,
> today its www.hell.com.


http://w1.331.telia.com/~u33113441/go_to_hell.png

=)
Peter
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Peter Karlsson

2002-09-30, 6:29 pm

In article < ei1hpu8j4kuaksp889ph7al7ghn4l6
nq4r@4ax.com>, Ken Bradford wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:06:50 -0500, "Tim" <tttaff@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I got www.hell.com also, and I did use the quotation marks: "go to hell".
>>
>>

> It seems to have been changed. On Friday (?) it was www.microsoft.com,
> today its www.hell.com.


http://w1.331.telia.com/~u33113441/go_to_hell.png

=)
Peter
--
My email address is munged. Drop YOUR PANTS...
Registered GNU/Linux User # 279409 (http://counter.li.org)
"Gentoo Linux - Because I'm worth it!"
osama bin kenobi

2002-09-30, 8:29 pm

glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:

>In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
>osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.

>
>
>Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
>but not now.


Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
in the future who knows? :^)
osama bin kenobi

2002-09-30, 9:29 pm

glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:

>In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
>osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.

>
>
>Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
>but not now.


Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
in the future who knows? :^)
Elizabot

2002-09-30, 9:29 pm

osama bin kenobi wrote:
>
> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
>
> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.

> >
> >
> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
> >but not now.

>
> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
> in the future who knows? :^)


It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.
Elizabot

2002-09-30, 10:29 pm

osama bin kenobi wrote:
>
> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
>
> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.

> >
> >
> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
> >but not now.

>
> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
> in the future who knows? :^)


It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.
osama bin kenobi

2002-10-01, 2:29 am

Elizabot <booREMOVE@grayREMOVErock.org> said:

>osama bin kenobi wrote:
>>
>> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
>>
>> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
>> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
>> >
>> >
>> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
>> >but not now.

>>
>> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
>> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
>> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
>> in the future who knows? :^)

>
>It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.


Apple is an M$ protectorate these days, isn't it?
osama bin kenobi

2002-10-01, 3:28 am

Elizabot <booREMOVE@grayREMOVErock.org> said:

>osama bin kenobi wrote:
>>
>> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
>>
>> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
>> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
>> >
>> >
>> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
>> >but not now.

>>
>> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
>> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
>> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
>> in the future who knows? :^)

>
>It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.


Apple is an M$ protectorate these days, isn't it?
Gregory L. Hansen

2002-10-01, 7:29 am

In article < skiipus1mq42on0ji787jaftf1rnrs
hlgv@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>Elizabot <booREMOVE@grayREMOVErock.org> said:
>
>>osama bin kenobi wrote:
>>>
>>> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
>>>
>>> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
>>> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>>> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
>>> >but not now.
>>>
>>> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
>>> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
>>> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
>>> in the future who knows? :^)

>>
>>It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.

>
>Apple is an M$ protectorate these days, isn't it?


It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
mainstream competitor."

Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
way?

--
"A nice adaptation of conditions will make almost any hypothesis agree
with the phenomena. This will please the imagination but does not advance
our knowledge." -- J. Black, 1803.

Gregory L. Hansen

2002-10-01, 8:29 am

In article < skiipus1mq42on0ji787jaftf1rnrs
hlgv@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>Elizabot <booREMOVE@grayREMOVErock.org> said:
>
>>osama bin kenobi wrote:
>>>
>>> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
>>>
>>> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
>>> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
>>> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
>>> >but not now.
>>>
>>> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
>>> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
>>> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
>>> in the future who knows? :^)

>>
>>It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.

>
>Apple is an M$ protectorate these days, isn't it?


It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
mainstream competitor."

Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
way?

--
"A nice adaptation of conditions will make almost any hypothesis agree
with the phenomena. This will please the imagination but does not advance
our knowledge." -- J. Black, 1803.

Flip

2002-10-01, 8:29 am

In article <anc68t$lci$1@rainier.uits.indiana.edu>,
glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) wrote:

> In article < skiipus1mq42on0ji787jaftf1rnrs
hlgv@4ax.com>,
> osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
> >Elizabot <booREMOVE@grayREMOVErock.org> said:
> >
> >>osama bin kenobi wrote:
> >>>
> >>> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
> >>>
> >>> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
> >>> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
> >>> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
> >>> >but not now.
> >>>
> >>> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
> >>> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
> >>> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
> >>> in the future who knows? :^)
> >>
> >>It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.

> >
> >Apple is an M$ protectorate these days, isn't it?

>
> It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
> would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
> power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
> mainstream competitor."
>
> Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
> way?


Actually, that's no longer of any benefit to Microsoft. They're a
convicted monopolist. No amount of posturing will change that.
Flip

2002-10-01, 9:29 am

In article <anc68t$lci$1@rainier.uits.indiana.edu>,
glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) wrote:

> In article < skiipus1mq42on0ji787jaftf1rnrs
hlgv@4ax.com>,
> osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
> >Elizabot <booREMOVE@grayREMOVErock.org> said:
> >
> >>osama bin kenobi wrote:
> >>>
> >>> glhansen@steel.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory L. Hansen) said:
> >>>
> >>> >In article < 0h3gpu0bvhrliketl1ssmlthacd74h
tg3m@4ax.com>,
> >>> >osama bin kenobi <Rebel Alliance Galactic Usenet News Service> wrote:
> >>> >>Damn, looks like Google fixed it. Those M$ lawyers sure work fast.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Wow. Microsoft was there at the top of the list when I tried it before,
> >>> >but not now.
> >>>
> >>> Did you think those stories of M$'s infamous legal department are just
> >>> myths? No, they're out there. M$ has its own army of spooks who in
> >>> some cases are more effective than the FBI. They're not armed yet, but
> >>> in the future who knows? :^)
> >>
> >>It's widely known in csma that Winman's the shill in question.

> >
> >Apple is an M$ protectorate these days, isn't it?

>
> It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
> would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
> power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
> mainstream competitor."
>
> Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
> way?


Actually, that's no longer of any benefit to Microsoft. They're a
convicted monopolist. No amount of posturing will change that.
osama bin kenobi

2002-10-03, 2:25 am

>> It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
>> would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
>> power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
>> mainstream competitor."
>>
>> Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
>> way?

>
>Actually, that's no longer of any benefit to Microsoft. They're a
>convicted monopolist. No amount of posturing will change that.


Except that the DOJ hasn't been enforcing the conviction. I guess you
have probably seen SP1's DOJ-compliant addon to Windows XP? All it
does is hide the bundled application icons, rather than remove the
programs. They are still there, they still take over file associations
without permission and no provisions have been added to easily change
these file associations.
Flip

2002-10-03, 9:25 am

In article < 2spnpu0r5em4sg8d6uv44gl0gf5sem
95pc@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote:
[colo
r=darkred]
> >> It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
> >> would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
> >> power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
> >> mainstream competitor."
> >>
> >> Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
> >> way?

> >
> >Actually, that's no longer of any benefit to Microsoft. They're a
> >convicted monopolist. No amount of posturing will change that.

>
> Except that the DOJ hasn't been enforcing the conviction. I guess you
> have probably seen SP1's DOJ-compliant addon to Windows XP? All it
> does is hide the bundled application icons, rather than remove the
> programs. They are still there, they still take over file associations
> without permission and no provisions have been added to easily change
> these file associations.[/color]

Of course they're still acting illegally.

But the point is that they no longer have the ability to argue that
they're not a monopoly because of Apple - as you asserted above.
osama bin kenobi

2002-10-05, 6:25 am

Flip <flippo@mac.com> said:

>In article < 2spnpu0r5em4sg8d6uv44gl0gf5sem
95pc@4ax.com>,
> osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote:
>
>> >> It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
>> >> would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
>> >> power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
>> >> mainstream competitor."
>> >>
>> >> Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
>> >> way?
>> >
>> >Actually, that's no longer of any benefit to Microsoft. They're a
>> >convicted monopolist. No amount of posturing will change that.

>>
>> Except that the DOJ hasn't been enforcing the conviction. I guess you
>> have probably seen SP1's DOJ-compliant addon to Windows XP? All it
>> does is hide the bundled application icons, rather than remove the
>> programs. They are still there, they still take over file associations
>> without permission and no provisions have been added to easily change
>> these file associations.

>
>Of course they're still acting illegally.
>
>But the point is that they no longer have the ability to argue that
>they're not a monopoly because of Apple - as you asserted above.


I guess that means Apple won't be around much longer then. ;^)
flip

2002-10-05, 7:25 am

In article < dtitpuorgl9ld2l63e92g5e8kb0p25
s50h@4ax.com>,
osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote:

> Flip <flippo@mac.com> said:
>
> >In article < 2spnpu0r5em4sg8d6uv44gl0gf5sem
95pc@4ax.com>,
> > osama bin kenobi <abuse@anarchy.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> >> It's been rumored that Microsoft doesn't want Apple to die, because that
> >> >> would really spoil any claims they could make when accused of monopoly
> >> >> power. As long as Apple exists they can say "See? There's another
> >> >> mainstream competitor."
> >> >>
> >> >> Keep Apple big enough to be useful, but not so big that it gets in the
> >> >> way?
> >> >
> >> >Actually, that's no longer of any benefit to Microsoft. They're a
> >> >convicted monopolist. No amount of posturing will change that.
> >>
> >> Except that the DOJ hasn't been enforcing the conviction. I guess you
> >> have probably seen SP1's DOJ-compliant addon to Windows XP? All it
> >> does is hide the bundled application icons, rather than remove the
> >> programs. They are still there, they still take over file associations
> >> without permission and no provisions have been added to easily change
> >> these file associations.

> >
> >Of course they're still acting illegally.
> >
> >But the point is that they no longer have the ability to argue that
> >they're not a monopoly because of Apple - as you asserted above.

>
> I guess that means Apple won't be around much longer then. ;^)


Apple must be the only company that's been going out of business for 20
years - at least according to people like you.
osama bin kenobi

2002-10-06, 12:24 am

>> >But the point is that they no longer have the ability to argue that[
color=darkred]
>> >they're not a monopoly because of Apple - as you asserted above.

>>
>> I guess that means Apple won't be around much longer then. ;^)

>
>Apple must be the only company that's been going out of business for 20
>years - at least according to people like you.[/color]

I think that's what started to be discussed in this thread. The role
M$ played in keeping Apple afloat. Don't forget at the point when
Apple was melting down, Gate$ bailed it out with $150m and promised
software support for OS X. I fail to see any reason for
him...especially him, to do something like this other than for an
alterior motive. M$ could have easily cancelled support for Internet
Exploder and Office at that point and put the last nail in Apple's
coffin, but it didn't. Instead Gate$ appeared as the almighty saviour
himself, towering over Jobs on that video monitor at Macworld...

http://www.ascii.co.jp/pb/dosvissue...rld98/title.jpg

Wait a minute. No, that's the wrong picture. I mean this:

http://images.usatoday.com/life/cyber/photos/06bill.jpg
http://www.his.com/~twacks/images/BillBrother.jpg

Just when the M$ trial was due to start...how convenient.
Lucius Chiaraviglio

2002-10-18, 10:24 pm

flip <flippo@mac.com> wrote:
>[. . .]
>Apple must be the only company that's been going out of business for 20
>years - at least according to people like you.


Actually, it seemed (albeit from a casual perusal of the state of the
industry, not any in-depth study) that Digital Equipment Corporation used to
be that way through the 1980s and early 1990s.

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