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Re: How to install windows 98 and keep booting XP and 2000

Chris Lambert

2002-08-10, 5:23 pm

thank you you are a cock suker i have the same problem
"Jeffrey L. Woods" <jeff@telix.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.17bf4316fbd9a37e989697@east.usenetserver.com...
> In article <Jxc59.7019$fL3.1448316@news1.news.adelphia.net>, tjenkins1
> @yahoo.com says...
>
> > I have an ME installation on my computer along with an XP install and 2
> > installs of windows 2000 for study purposes. On my last install of XP
the
> > boot loader phased out the install of ME and I can't get it to boot. I
> > checked the boot.ini and made a modification to it without saving a copy
of
> > the original and now I can't get the computer to boot to ME, only XP or
W2K
> > (they still work perfectly). The ME installation is on the first
partition
> > of the first disk.
> > 1 question:
> >
> > 1. I want to install Windows 98 on the now ME occupied C drive. How can
I go
> > about installing windows 98 on that drive and still be able to boot the
> > other installations of XP and W2K? In other words, i want to insure that
the
> > new install on the c drive of Windows 98 doesn't make it impossible to
boot
> > into XP and W2K.
>
> For native multi-booting, you *must* install the OS's in chronological
> order of release. Once you have 2K or XP on there, installing 98 or ME
> will blow their boot sectors out.
>
> > I have a copy of Boot Magic and Partition Magic but I am still a bit
> > confused on how to use Boot Magic exactly. I read once that you can have
a
> > small utility FAT partition for booting purposes. Is that what I will
need
> > to do?
>
> I have found BootItNG (shareware, $29) to work well for this, but it,
> too, recommends a standalone boot partition. Both BootItNG and V-Comm's
> System Commander will retain your current partitions and let you install
> earlier OS's to other partitions. (You often have to restore the
> BootItNG or SysComm sector after an installation, since the OS clobbers
> the multi-booter software's own boot sector -- easy as booting from a
> BootItNG floppy and clicking "restore").
>
> Since you will often need to re-install or update earlier OS's
> (seriously, how often did you need to re-do Win98 back in those days?),
> I can't recommend native multi-booting. The best way is to use a boot
> manager like those you mentioned, or those I have mentioned.
>
> I made my prior living at shareware, so I'm partial to BootItNG.
>
> > My comp has 3 drives with about 10 partitions. There are also about 3
linux

> > partitions as I also have Redhat 7.2 and Mandrake installed for study
> > purposes as well but I use a boot disk to access those.
>
> Once you get BootItNG going, you can ditch the boot floppies for Linux,
> too.
>
> I have two systems with literally EVERYTHING on it, for study and review
> purposes:
>
> DOS 6.22
> Win95
> Win98
> Win98 SE
> WinME
> WinNT 3.51 WS
> WinNT 4.0 WS
> WinNT 4.0 Server
> Win2K Pro
> Win2K Server
> Win XP Pro
> Linux 7.3
>
> I'm also waiting on .NET RC 1 to round it out. I never did own NT 3.51
> Server, so it's missing (but so outmoded and unused that I debated even
> including NT WS 3.51 in the queue).
>
> The only thing I had to be careful of was some of those required being
> below the 8 GB barrier for installation purposes, so faced with a choice
> of tiny boot partitions or multiple drives, I went with two drives, so
> everything could have 2 GB or 4 GB boot partitions.
>
> > Would simply copying the ntloader, ntdetect and boot.ini files to a
floopy
> > and then copying them back to the first partition of the first disk be
all I
> > would need to do to get back into the other OS's after I reinstall Win98
on
> > the first partition of the first disk? Or is there some sort of mbr data
> > that would have to get re-copied?
>
> The MBR would also need to get re-updated, hence the need for a boot
> commander of some sort if you truly want to make multibooting a way of
> life.
>
> Visit www.terabyteunlimited.com for BootIt NG. $29, 30 day trial.
> Visit www.v-com.com for System Commander. $59 retail.
>

no@spam.org

2002-08-12, 7:23 am

Personally I use VirtualPC which allows you to run an OS in a window
on your host OS. This gets rid of all the problems with multi-boot
etc. It works great if you're installing the additional OSes for
study and practice purposes. The drawback is that since you're
running at least 2 OSes at the same time, you need the CPU power and
RAM to do it.

Ron
A+, MCP X 6, MCSA

On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:46:53 +0100, "Chris Lambert" <clambert@cal.net>
wrote:

>thank you you are a cock suker i have the same problem
>"Jeffrey L. Woods" <jeff@telix.com> wrote in message
>news:MPG.17bf4316fbd9a37e989697@east.usenetserver.com...
>> In article <Jxc59.7019$fL3.1448316@news1.news.adelphia.net>, tjenkins1
>> @yahoo.com says...
>>
>> > I have an ME installation on my computer along with an XP install and 2
>> > installs of windows 2000 for study purposes. On my last install of XP
> the
>> > boot loader phased out the install of ME and I can't get it to boot. I
>> > checked the boot.ini and made a modification to it without saving a copy
> of

>> > the original and now I can't get the computer to boot to ME, only XP or
> W2K
>> > (they still work perfectly). The ME installation is on the first
> partition
>> > of the first disk.
>> > 1 question:
>> >
>> > 1. I want to install Windows 98 on the now ME occupied C drive. How can
>I go

>> > about installing windows 98 on that drive and still be able to boot the
>> > other installations of XP and W2K? In other words, i want to insure that
> the
>> > new install on the c drive of Windows 98 doesn't make it impossible to
> boot
>> > into XP and W2K.
>>
>> For native multi-booting, you *must* install the OS's in chronological
>> order of release. Once you have 2K or XP on there, installing 98 or ME
>> will blow their boot sectors out.
>>
>> > I have a copy of Boot Magic and Partition Magic but I am still a bit
>> > confused on how to use Boot Magic exactly. I read once that you can have
>a
>> > small utility FAT partition for booting purposes. Is that what I will
> need
>> > to do?
>>
>> I have found BootItNG (shareware, $29) to work well for this, but it,
>> too, recommends a standalone boot partition. Both BootItNG and V-Comm's
>> System Commander will retain your current partitions and let you install
>> earlier OS's to other partitions. (You often have to restore the
>> BootItNG or SysComm sector after an installation, since the OS clobbers
>> the multi-booter software's own boot sector -- easy as booting from a
>> BootItNG floppy and clicking "restore").
>>
>> Since you will often need to re-install or update earlier OS's
>> (seriously, how often did you need to re-do Win98 back in those days?),
>> I can't recommend native multi-booting. The best way is to use a boot
>> manager like those you mentioned, or those I have mentioned.
>>
>> I made my prior living at shareware, so I'm partial to BootItNG.
>>
>> > My comp has 3 drives with about 10 partitions. There are also about 3
> linux
>> > partitions as I also have Redhat 7.2 and Mandrake installed for study
>> > purposes as well but I use a boot disk to access those.
>>
>> Once you get BootItNG going, you can ditch the boot floppies for Linux,
>> too.
>>
>> I have two systems with literally EVERYTHING on it, for study and review
>> purposes:
>>
>> DOS 6.22
>> Win95
>> Win98
>> Win98 SE
>> WinME
>> WinNT 3.51 WS
>> WinNT 4.0 WS
>> WinNT 4.0 Server
>> Win2K Pro
>> Win2K Server
>> Win XP Pro
>> Linux 7.3
>>
>> I'm also waiting on .NET RC 1 to round it out. I never did own NT 3.51
>> Server, so it's missing (but so outmoded and unused that I debated even
>> including NT WS 3.51 in the queue).
>>
>> The only thing I had to be careful of was some of those required being
>> below the 8 GB barrier for installation purposes, so faced with a choice
>> of tiny boot partitions or multiple drives, I went with two drives, so
>> everything could have 2 GB or 4 GB boot partitions.
>>
>> > Would simply copying the ntloader, ntdetect and boot.ini files to a
> floopy
>> > and then copying them back to the first partition of the first disk be
>all I
>> > would need to do to get back into the other OS's after I reinstall Win98
> on

>> > the first partition of the first disk? Or is there some sort of mbr data
>> > that would have to get re-copied?
>>
>> The MBR would also need to get re-updated, hence the need for a boot
>> commander of some sort if you truly want to make multibooting a way of
>> life.
>>
>> Visit www.terabyteunlimited.com for BootIt NG. $29, 30 day trial.
>> Visit www.v-com.com for System Commander. $59 retail.
>>
>

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