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From: S O'Brien (rmechk@attcanada.ca)
Subject: Re: No more test scores from Microsoft!
Newsgroups: alt.certification.mcse
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Date: 2001-12-30 17:21:58 PST
oh... forgot to mention... when I use the dumps I white-out the answers,
create an answer key, do the questions on my own, then check my answers
against the key. Doesnt make much of a difference I suppose but when I am
doing the questions, I am on my own. I have to use my own knowledge to get
thru the set of questions I have randomly picked to answer in one sitting.
lol rambling on
Sue
"S O'Brien" <rmechk@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
news:CSOX7.7783$Q06.47809@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> I use the dumps as an additional tool. I have taken the courses, did the
> exams in class, read the Exam Cram books cover to cover along with my text
> books, I highlight all pertinent information, I take notes in class, I use
> Self testing software to test my knowledge. As for seeing the exact
> question on the exam? I rarely see the same questions. Maybe that is
> because I dont memorize the exam samples. I take what I need to know and
> apply it to what I already know. Some of these questions fill in blanks
> that were not fully covered in my text books (give more detail perhaps).
> You can say it is cheating, that is your decision I suppose. With over
400
> questions on some of these dumps, it can be difficult to memorize all the
> questions. There are some I seem to encounter repeatedly but when I come
> across the same question (even during exam situations) I think of why that
> answer is right. I use that knowledge to feel confident with my answer or
> to think further as to where that answer is wrong. It may also help
trigger
> a bell in my head to a question I already answered and I can go back and
go
> "oh right, now I know where I went wrong". Memorizing 400+ questions when
> the question bank can easily exceed that is foolish. I may see 50
questions
> I could recognize if I memorized them but I rarely do. When I read a
> question, I look for details I need to answer it, not what the question
> itself is saying. I try to picture the senario in my head; think of what
I
> had done in the past with practicals I have done; see if I know what I am
> looking for in regards to a question before I look at the answer. This
> helps me see what direction I might head for a correct answer. And though
I
> may not be the smartest person in the world, I have managed to get this
> close to graduation with only 5 months to go.
> I am a 30 yr old single mother of 2 and I have to provide for my children
> and I will do ANYTHING to reach that goal, no matter what it takes. My
> biggest problem is understanding the questions and text anxiety. Using
> dumps help me understand what the question is asking and to give me
> confidence when I enter the exam room. I dont go in saying "gee I know
> every question cause I memorized 400+ questions and there is nothing I
dont
> know". That is foolishness on my part. However, I do enter the exam room
> calmly, saying "ok, you know the concepts, you know the material, lets
hope
> you have questions you can relate to, to picture in my mind, to evaluate
the
> data as I see it".
> I have done exams where I have not recognized not one question, not one
> answer, but I have recognized the concepts I have learned and I apply that
> knowledge and bundle my way thru to a pass. Be it barely or very well
above
> the pass mark. I dont care! To me a pass is a pass. And I dont forget
> what I have learned because I have to continue learning and applying what
I
> have learned to the next course. By learning to picture it in my head, I
> can take that knowledge on with me to the next course, to my next job. To
> prove to an employer that he was correct in hiring me. That is my goal.
To
> prove I know what I am doing. And though I may not remember everything, I
> have enough knowledge to get me to the next step. To see where I go next.
> This I hope for.
> Sue 
> "Henry the 8th" <henry@here.tld> wrote in message
> news:0eOX7.7832$ud.1050665@news-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> > Rationalize it however you like. Seeing the questions from an exam at
> > anytime before you are actually writing the exam is cheating. There are
> > plenty of resources out there, some for free, that can help you
understand
> > the types of questions asked without giving away the exact ones.
> >
> > This arguement is used a lot. Use them as a study tool, look up the
answers
> > to be sure what the dumpers have supplied is correct. How can people
not
> > see that they have learned little more than when the question about
having
> > three DNS servers and six sites and the domain in France comes up just
pick
> > answer c.
> >
> > The real test is supposed to be in applying knowledge gathered. Not
ticking
> > off answers learned by rote. Pattern recognition is something my two
year
> > old daughter can do. When this question is on screen (pattern) I pick
this
> > answer (pattern) then my score bar will be longer than the required bar.
> >
> > Take people away from their prearranged pattern matching and they have
no
> > clue what to do. Check the other posts about clueless people who don't
know
> > what a network card interface looks like.
> >
> > You go through more trouble than the other braindump users maybe. You
> > actually read up on the questions posted. Good for you, you know why
the
> > right answers are right. It still doesn't excuse you from seeing the
> > questions before you wrote the test.
> >
> > When I pick an answer I know why I am picking it as the right answer
based
> > on the books I've read and practice I've done and the everyday work I
do.
> > Here's the kicker, I can do it even though I have never seen the exact
> > scenario and haven't had the chance to research the answers given. I
don't
> > always know for sure that I am picking the exact right answer because I
> > don't cheat by reading the exam before I go write it.
> >
> > You see the question and research the answers before getting to the exam
and
> > that is not cheating? Please explain your logic because I must be
missing
> > something.
> >
> >
> > "S O'Brien" <rmechk@attcanada.ca> wrote in message
> > news:xXLX7.7766$Q06.48900@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> > > yanno guys, using brain dumps are not necessarily cheating... not if
you use[c
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> > > them in the right way. I read thru them, pick the answer I would pick[/color]
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> > > why. If I am wrong I know what areas to concentrate; what info I need[/color]
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> > > research. Some dumps even have it where ppl have put their reasoning[/color]
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> > > why they picked the answer they did. Using them as a learning tool is[/color]
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> > > Lumping all of us under the term "cheaters" is not only unfair but
> > > judgemental and idiocy. Not everyone can just read a text book and[/color]
pass. [colo
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> > > Some need practice with exams and how questions are worded.
> > > Sue
> > > "paul" <qplayer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:97038369.0112301342.75a0cd4f@posting.google.com...
> > > > I dont think this measure will stop braindump cheaters.If they have
> > > > all the
> > > > questions and answers they are pretty certain to pass weather they[/color]
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> > > > the score or not
> > > > Paul
> > >
> > >[/color]
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