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| Frédéric 2002-06-24, 6:49 pm |
| Hi
I succeed A+ and intend to get trough i-Net+ now. I am disapointed about
i-Net+. It seems simple but when starting reading Sybex i-Net+ Study Guide
Second Edition changed my mind.
Is I-Net+ more about memorisation or more about understanding. Up to know I
see it as a big big deal on memorisation
--
Frédéric
A+
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| Patrick Jacobs 2002-06-24, 6:49 pm |
| In article <udAI8.22251$l25.1001044@weber.videotron.net>,
"Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is I-Net+ more about memorisation or more about understanding. Up to know I
> see it as a big big deal on memorisation
How can you understand something if you haven't memorized the terms
related to the subject matter?
I teach networking classes at a community college. One thing that I
really like about the i-Net+ class is that it does not focus on a
specific technology like most of the other certifications. It really
gives the big picture of the Internet. It introduces to a lot of
different topics. i-Net+ really should be one of the first
certifications that anybody gets. If you already have a good knowledge
of networking and the Internet, etc. then i-Net+ will seem very easy,
but if you are just starting out in computers (like most of my students)
then it really shows how all the pieces of the Internet puzzle fit
together.
It is very useful if you have only focused on one area of computers.
For example, if you are an HTML/XML/etc. programmer then you might not
realize the ramifications of things that you do in relation to the rest
of the Internet infastructure. i-Net+ gives you an introduction to all
of the other technologies that you might not be aware of like
networking, multimedia, e-business, databases, etc.
--
Pat Jacobs, MCNE, CNI, CCNA, CCAI
My boss said to put a disclaimer on posts. That way everyone knows
these are my ideas and not my employers. So I did.
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| Frédéric 2002-06-24, 6:49 pm |
| Hi Patrick
First thank you. I'm so surprised to have an answer so quick on that dead
newsgroup.
I'm Help Desk level 2, supporting 1500 computers, 100 servers ( NT, Novell,
SNA, exchange). The IT group is made of 9 people.
I have a diploma from a canadian private schoold in network installation,
configuration and administration. I'm A+ certified.
I'm the senior in the Help Desk Level 2 and train the new techs.
I have nothing to say against i-Net+, the only point that disapoint me is,
at first sight, being i-Net+ certified means knowing lots of things but it
does not means being able to do something.
I read the book for 2 hours up to now, so I'm at the beginning. I learn
things I didn't know, but this morning am I able to do something that I
couldn't do before? I would answer no.
Studying takes time, it means spending money. If i-Net+ is only an Internet
general culture that's ok I wanted just to have feed back from others.
--
Frédéric
A+
"Patrick Jacobs" <psgj@NO.SPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
news sgj-3A9CA2.02331928052002@nnrp05.earthlink.net...
> In article <udAI8.22251$l25.1001044@weber.videotron.net>,
> "Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Is I-Net+ more about memorisation or more about understanding. Up to
know I
> > see it as a big big deal on memorisation
>
> How can you understand something if you haven't memorized the terms
> related to the subject matter?
>
> I teach networking classes at a community college. One thing that I
> really like about the i-Net+ class is that it does not focus on a
> specific technology like most of the other certifications. It really
> gives the big picture of the Internet. It introduces to a lot of
> different topics. i-Net+ really should be one of the first
> certifications that anybody gets. If you already have a good knowledge
> of networking and the Internet, etc. then i-Net+ will seem very easy,
> but if you are just starting out in computers (like most of my students)
> then it really shows how all the pieces of the Internet puzzle fit
> together.
>
> It is very useful if you have only focused on one area of computers.
> For example, if you are an HTML/XML/etc. programmer then you might not
> realize the ramifications of things that you do in relation to the rest
> of the Internet infastructure. i-Net+ gives you an introduction to all
> of the other technologies that you might not be aware of like
> networking, multimedia, e-business, databases, etc.
>
> --
> Pat Jacobs, MCNE, CNI, CCNA, CCAI
>
> My boss said to put a disclaimer on posts. That way everyone knows
> these are my ideas and not my employers. So I did.
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| Marie Senior 2002-06-24, 6:49 pm |
| ***
response inline
***
Marie
"Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zRII8.25093$SQ4.1333407@wagner.videotron.net...
> Hi Patrick
>
> First thank you. I'm so surprised to have an answer so quick on that dead
> newsgroup.
>
> I'm Help Desk level 2, supporting 1500 computers, 100 servers ( NT,
Novell,
> SNA, exchange). The IT group is made of 9 people.
***
I myself deal with and apply everyday things that I learn from studying
iNet. I am an ISP Support Specialist that provides technical support for
all soft services offered by my company --- domain
registration/hosting/transfer --- email account support --- webhosting
support --- dialup support. I also do first level support for DSL
connectivity.
***
> I have a diploma from a canadian private schoold in network installation,
> configuration and administration. I'm A+ certified.
>
> I'm the senior in the Help Desk Level 2 and train the new techs.
>
> I have nothing to say against i-Net+, the only point that disapoint me is,
> at first sight, being i-Net+ certified means knowing lots of things but it
> does not means being able to do something.
> I read the book for 2 hours up to now, so I'm at the beginning. I learn
> things I didn't know, but this morning am I able to do something that I
> couldn't do before? I would answer no.
***
If your position was one that required the things you are learning then yes
you would be 'able to do' something new. Again, the things you are learning
with iNet+ are things that I use/apply everyday at my job.
***
>
> Studying takes time, it means spending money. If i-Net+ is only an
Internet
***
Is "only"? Not sure how to interpret that statement.
***
> general culture that's ok I wanted just to have feed back from others.
>
>
> --
> Frédéric
> A+
>
> "Patrick Jacobs" <psgj@NO.SPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
> newssgj-3A9CA2.02331928052002@nnrp05.earthlink.net...
> > In article <udAI8.22251$l25.1001044@weber.videotron.net>,
> > "Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Is I-Net+ more about memorisation or more about understanding. Up to
> know I
> > > see it as a big big deal on memorisation
> >
> > How can you understand something if you haven't memorized the terms
> > related to the subject matter?
> >
> > I teach networking classes at a community college. One thing that I
> > really like about the i-Net+ class is that it does not focus on a
> > specific technology like most of the other certifications. It really
> > gives the big picture of the Internet. It introduces to a lot of
> > different topics. i-Net+ really should be one of the first
> > certifications that anybody gets. If you already have a good knowledge
> > of networking and the Internet, etc. then i-Net+ will seem very easy,
> > but if you are just starting out in computers (like most of my students)
> > then it really shows how all the pieces of the Internet puzzle fit
> > together.
> >
> > It is very useful if you have only focused on one area of computers.
> > For example, if you are an HTML/XML/etc. programmer then you might not
> > realize the ramifications of things that you do in relation to the rest
> > of the Internet infastructure. i-Net+ gives you an introduction to all
> > of the other technologies that you might not be aware of like
> > networking, multimedia, e-business, databases, etc.
> >
> > --
> > Pat Jacobs, MCNE, CNI, CCNA, CCAI
> >
> > My boss said to put a disclaimer on posts. That way everyone knows
> > these are my ideas and not my employers. So I did.
>
>
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| I totally agree with Marie, if your position would require what the I-Net +
teaches you then you would certainly apply alot of the things that you are
memorizing and learning right now. I am a Dial Up Tech for an ISP and day
after day I apply and use tons of things that I learned from I-Net +
Also all the terms and definitions that I learned are extremelly useful and
I am glad that I certified and learned this stuff.
Also try Network + and Server + as they might be more relative to what your
job is.
Steve
"Marie Senior" <msenior@integraonline.com> wrote in message
news:uf75mnet5kd977@corp.supernews.com...
> ***
> response inline
> ***
>
> Marie
>
> "Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zRII8.25093$SQ4.1333407@wagner.videotron.net...
> > Hi Patrick
> >
> > First thank you. I'm so surprised to have an answer so quick on that
dead
> > newsgroup.
> >
> > I'm Help Desk level 2, supporting 1500 computers, 100 servers ( NT,
> Novell,
> > SNA, exchange). The IT group is made of 9 people.
>
> ***
> I myself deal with and apply everyday things that I learn from studying
> iNet. I am an ISP Support Specialist that provides technical support for
> all soft services offered by my company --- domain
> registration/hosting/transfer --- email account support --- webhosting
> support --- dialup support. I also do first level support for DSL
> connectivity.
> ***
>
> > I have a diploma from a canadian private schoold in network
installation,[colo
r=green]
> > configuration and administration. I'm A+ certified.
> >
> > I'm the senior in the Help Desk Level 2 and train the new techs.
> >
> > I have nothing to say against i-Net+, the only point that disapoint me[/color]
is,
> > at first sight, being i-Net+ certified means knowing lots of things but
it
> > does not means being able to do something.
> > I read the book for 2 hours up to now, so I'm at the beginning. I learn
> > things I didn't know, but this morning am I able to do something that I
> > couldn't do before? I would answer no.
>
> ***
> If your position was one that required the things you are learning then
yes
> you would be 'able to do' something new. Again, the things you are
learning
> with iNet+ are things that I use/apply everyday at my job.
> ***
> >
> > Studying takes time, it means spending money. If i-Net+ is only an
> Internet
>
> ***
> Is "only"? Not sure how to interpret that statement.
> ***
>
> > general culture that's ok I wanted just to have feed back from others.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frédéric
> > A+
> >
> > "Patrick Jacobs" <psgj@NO.SPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
> > newssgj-3A9CA2.02331928052002@nnrp05.earthlink.net...
> > > In article <udAI8.22251$l25.1001044@weber.videotron.net>,
> > > "Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is I-Net+ more about memorisation or more about understanding. Up to
> > know I
> > > > see it as a big big deal on memorisation
> > >
> > > How can you understand something if you haven't memorized the terms
> > > related to the subject matter?
> > >
> > > I teach networking classes at a community college. One thing that I
> > > really like about the i-Net+ class is that it does not focus on a
> > > specific technology like most of the other certifications. It really
> > > gives the big picture of the Internet. It introduces to a lot of
> > > different topics. i-Net+ really should be one of the first
> > > certifications that anybody gets. If you already have a good
knowledge
> > > of networking and the Internet, etc. then i-Net+ will seem very easy,
> > > but if you are just starting out in computers (like most of my
students)
> > > then it really shows how all the pieces of the Internet puzzle fit
> > > together.
> > >
> > > It is very useful if you have only focused on one area of computers.
> > > For example, if you are an HTML/XML/etc. programmer then you might not
> > > realize the ramifications of things that you do in relation to the
rest[
color=darkred]
> > > of the Internet infastructure. i-Net+ gives you an introduction to[/color]
all[c
olor=darkred]
> > > of the other technologies that you might not be aware of like
> > > networking, multimedia, e-business, databases, etc.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pat Jacobs, MCNE, CNI, CCNA, CCAI
> > >
> > > My boss said to put a disclaimer on posts. That way everyone knows
> > > these are my ideas and not my employers. So I did.
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
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| Frédéric 2002-06-24, 6:49 pm |
| English is not my first language sorry
I decided to study i-Net+ and the more I read the more I find it difficult.
Up to now the problem was to understand what is the expected level of
knowledge. First chapter I was learning too hard and when I did the review
exam I realised I was going too far deep in the technology, but in the next
chapter I was feeling at ease with all the concepts and on review exam
realised I went too fast.
I also realised A+ is more about configuring the client computer and i-Net+
is a whole knowledge (from client to server through network and telecom).
After reading 3 chapters, I'm no more disapointed but impressed
--
Frédéric
A+
"Marie Senior" <msenior@integraonline.com> wrote in message
news:uf75mnet5kd977@corp.supernews.com...
> ***
> response inline
> ***
>
> Marie
>
> "Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zRII8.25093$SQ4.1333407@wagner.videotron.net...
> > Hi Patrick
> >
> > First thank you. I'm so surprised to have an answer so quick on that
dead
> > newsgroup.
> >
> > I'm Help Desk level 2, supporting 1500 computers, 100 servers ( NT,
> Novell,
> > SNA, exchange). The IT group is made of 9 people.
>
> ***
> I myself deal with and apply everyday things that I learn from studying
> iNet. I am an ISP Support Specialist that provides technical support for
> all soft services offered by my company --- domain
> registration/hosting/transfer --- email account support --- webhosting
> support --- dialup support. I also do first level support for DSL
> connectivity.
> ***
>
> > I have a diploma from a canadian private schoold in network
installation,[colo
r=green]
> > configuration and administration. I'm A+ certified.
> >
> > I'm the senior in the Help Desk Level 2 and train the new techs.
> >
> > I have nothing to say against i-Net+, the only point that disapoint me[/color]
is,
> > at first sight, being i-Net+ certified means knowing lots of things but
it
> > does not means being able to do something.
> > I read the book for 2 hours up to now, so I'm at the beginning. I learn
> > things I didn't know, but this morning am I able to do something that I
> > couldn't do before? I would answer no.
>
> ***
> If your position was one that required the things you are learning then
yes
> you would be 'able to do' something new. Again, the things you are
learning
> with iNet+ are things that I use/apply everyday at my job.
> ***
> >
> > Studying takes time, it means spending money. If i-Net+ is only an
> Internet
>
> ***
> Is "only"? Not sure how to interpret that statement.
> ***
>
> > general culture that's ok I wanted just to have feed back from others.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Frédéric
> > A+
> >
> > "Patrick Jacobs" <psgj@NO.SPAM.mac.com> wrote in message
> > newssgj-3A9CA2.02331928052002@nnrp05.earthlink.net...
> > > In article <udAI8.22251$l25.1001044@weber.videotron.net>,
> > > "Frédéric" <frederic_quebec2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Is I-Net+ more about memorisation or more about understanding. Up to
> > know I
> > > > see it as a big big deal on memorisation
> > >
> > > How can you understand something if you haven't memorized the terms
> > > related to the subject matter?
> > >
> > > I teach networking classes at a community college. One thing that I
> > > really like about the i-Net+ class is that it does not focus on a
> > > specific technology like most of the other certifications. It really
> > > gives the big picture of the Internet. It introduces to a lot of
> > > different topics. i-Net+ really should be one of the first
> > > certifications that anybody gets. If you already have a good
knowledge
> > > of networking and the Internet, etc. then i-Net+ will seem very easy,
> > > but if you are just starting out in computers (like most of my
students)
> > > then it really shows how all the pieces of the Internet puzzle fit
> > > together.
> > >
> > > It is very useful if you have only focused on one area of computers.
> > > For example, if you are an HTML/XML/etc. programmer then you might not
> > > realize the ramifications of things that you do in relation to the
rest[
color=darkred]
> > > of the Internet infastructure. i-Net+ gives you an introduction to[/color]
all[c
olor=darkred]
> > > of the other technologies that you might not be aware of like
> > > networking, multimedia, e-business, databases, etc.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Pat Jacobs, MCNE, CNI, CCNA, CCAI
> > >
> > > My boss said to put a disclaimer on posts. That way everyone knows
> > > these are my ideas and not my employers. So I did.
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
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