alt.certification.network-plus - Need help with a non networking problem. Any takers.

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Need help with a non networking problem. Any takers.

TiCaL-aL

2003-02-17, 12:24 am

I need alittle help on a problem that I have. My goal is to duel boot
win2000 and 98 from the menu. I have one hard drive with one partition
and win2000 on it with NTFS. I took another hard drive with one
partition and win98 on it with FAT32. I made the drive with win98 the
master and the other the slave. I was thinking I could boot into 98,
edit msdos.sys (add bootmenu=1) and get the boot menu. All I get when
I do this is the win98 start up menu (boot normal, safe mode, etc.).
I 'm thinking it won't allow me to choose which O.S to boot because
98 won't see a NTFS partition. My question is, is there any way I can
duel boot these two through a menu.(I know I can change the O.S by
changing the boot order in the BIOS but I want the boot menu). My
other question is, is there a third party utility that can allow me to
do this? Thanks. Sorry if its confussing.

Alby

Tony

2003-02-17, 1:24 am

I believe that in order to dual boot, all drives must be FAT or FAT32. Fat32 will not recognize
NTFS.

Here is more from Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 243896

For Windows 98 to coexist with Windows NT 4.0 on a large NTFS partition, a small FAT active
partition must exist at the beginning of the drive. Currently, FAT16 using the 32-KB cluster size is
the only common file system that both operating systems can address from Power On Self-Test (POST).
Therefore, making a FAT drive C partition that is 2 GB in size or less, ensures the proper cluster
size is used.

If the active partition is NTFS or large FAT16 using the 64-KB cluster size, Windows 98 does not
boot because these file systems are not accessible to the boot code that Windows 98 uses. Likewise,
if the active partition is FAT32, Windows NT does not boot.

Check out the article:
http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...kb;EN-US;243896

Tony

>I need alittle help on a problem that I have. My goal is to duel boot
>win2000 and 98 from the menu. I have one hard drive with one partition
>and win2000 on it with NTFS. I took another hard drive with one
>partition and win98 on it with FAT32. I made the drive with win98 the
>master and the other the slave. I was thinking I could boot into 98,
>edit msdos.sys (add bootmenu=1) and get the boot menu. All I get when
>I do this is the win98 start up menu (boot normal, safe mode, etc.).
> I 'm thinking it won't allow me to choose which O.S to boot because
>98 won't see a NTFS partition. My question is, is there any way I can
>duel boot these two through a menu.(I know I can change the O.S by
>changing the boot order in the BIOS but I want the boot menu). My
>other question is, is there a third party utility that can allow me to
>do this? Thanks. Sorry if its confussing.
>
>Alby

Geoff

2003-02-17, 7:24 am

"TiCaL-aL" <tical-al@me.com> wrote in message
news:kom05vs6vshig1dm1esva8pt1
qlpdohsba@4ax.com...
> I need alittle help on a problem that I have. My goal is to duel boot
> win2000 and 98 from the menu. I have one hard drive with one partition
> and win2000 on it with NTFS. I took another hard drive with one
> partition and win98 on it with FAT32. I made the drive with win98 the
> master and the other the slave. I was thinking I could boot into 98,
> edit msdos.sys (add bootmenu=1) and get the boot menu. All I get when
> I do this is the win98 start up menu (boot normal, safe mode, etc.).
> I 'm thinking it won't allow me to choose which O.S to boot because
> 98 won't see a NTFS partition. My question is, is there any way I can
> duel boot these two through a menu.(I know I can change the O.S by
> changing the boot order in the BIOS but I want the boot menu). My
> other question is, is there a third party utility that can allow me to
> do this? Thanks. Sorry if its confussing.
>
> Alby

err so you have 2 hdd's? ok then
isntall win98 on the c drive
then isntall win2k on the d drive
thats it

(win2k will install it's boot manager on the c drive, and it'll auto detect
win98 and give you a choice at boot for it)

Simon Telrenner

2003-02-17, 11:24 am

You will need to reinstall 2k, from 98. When it gives you a choice, enter
new installatin, and point it towards d:

Having NTFS will not effect dual boot, except that you won't see the d drive
when you are in 98. It just won's be there.

Hope that helps

Simon

"TiCaL-aL" <tical-al@me.com> wrote in message
news:kom05vs6vshig1dm1esva8pt1
qlpdohsba@4ax.com...
> I need alittle help on a problem that I have. My goal is to duel boot
> win2000 and 98 from the menu. I have one hard drive with one partition
> and win2000 on it with NTFS. I took another hard drive with one
> partition and win98 on it with FAT32. I made the drive with win98 the
> master and the other the slave. I was thinking I could boot into 98,
> edit msdos.sys (add bootmenu=1) and get the boot menu. All I get when
> I do this is the win98 start up menu (boot normal, safe mode, etc.).
> I 'm thinking it won't allow me to choose which O.S to boot because
> 98 won't see a NTFS partition. My question is, is there any way I can
> duel boot these two through a menu.(I know I can change the O.S by
> changing the boot order in the BIOS but I want the boot menu). My
> other question is, is there a third party utility that can allow me to
> do this? Thanks. Sorry if its confussing.
>
> Alby

TiCaL-aL

2003-02-17, 3:24 pm

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:43:43 -0700, "Simon Telrenner"
<dish_dude_2002@me.yahoo.com> wrote:

>You will need to reinstall 2k, from 98. When it gives you a choice, enter
>new installatin, and point it towards d:
>
>Having NTFS will not effect dual boot, except that you won't see the d drive
>when you are in 98. It just won's be there.
>
>Hope that helps
>
>Simon
>
>"TiCaL-aL" <tical-al@me.com> wrote in message
> news:kom05vs6vshig1dm1esva8pt1
qlpdohsba@4ax.com...
>> I need alittle help on a problem that I have. My goal is to duel boot
>> win2000 and 98 from the menu. I have one hard drive with one partition
>> and win2000 on it with NTFS. I took another hard drive with one
>> partition and win98 on it with FAT32. I made the drive with win98 the
>> master and the other the slave. I was thinking I could boot into 98,
>> edit msdos.sys (add bootmenu=1) and get the boot menu. All I get when
>> I do this is the win98 start up menu (boot normal, safe mode, etc.).
>> I 'm thinking it won't allow me to choose which O.S to boot because
>> 98 won't see a NTFS partition. My question is, is there any way I can
>> duel boot these two through a menu.(I know I can change the O.S by
>> changing the boot order in the BIOS but I want the boot menu). My
>> other question is, is there a third party utility that can allow me to
>> do this? Thanks. Sorry if its confussing.
>>
>> Alby
>
Ok, so theres no way to duel boot them without re-installing.

Alby

Slammer

2003-02-17, 4:24 pm

Get Partition Magic and use BootMagic, you won't have to reload.

--
Slammer
MCSA, CNA, iNet+, Server+, Net+, A+

Simon Telrenner

2003-02-17, 6:24 pm

What he said....

Sticking just to microsoft.... no way around it.

"Slammer" <mschal@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Get Partition Magic and use BootMagic, you won't have to reload.
>
> --
> Slammer
> MCSA, CNA, iNet+, Server+, Net+, A+
>
>

TiCaL-aL

2003-02-18, 12:24 pm

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:56:02 -0700, "Simon Telrenner"
<dish_dude_2002@me.yahoo.com> wrote:

>What he said....
>
>Sticking just to microsoft.... no way around it.
>
>"Slammer" <mschal@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:xmc4a.33569$Lm5.1287947@twister.austin.rr.com...
>> Get Partition Magic and use BootMagic, you won't have to reload.
>>
>> --
>> Slammer
>> MCSA, CNA, iNet+, Server+, Net+, A+
>>
>>
>
I installed bootmagic, Its a cool little program but it doesn`t work
with NTFS. Theres no way to convert a NTFS partition to a FAT32, Is
there?

TiCaL-aL

2003-02-18, 12:24 pm

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:37:56 GMT, TiCaL-aL <tical-al@me.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 16:56:02 -0700, "Simon Telrenner"
><dish_dude_2002@me.yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>What he said....
>>
>>Sticking just to microsoft.... no way around it.
>>
>>"Slammer" <mschal@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:xmc4a.33569$Lm5.1287947@twister.austin.rr.com...
>>> Get Partition Magic and use BootMagic, you won't have to reload.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Slammer
>>> MCSA, CNA, iNet+, Server+, Net+, A+
>>>
>>>
>>
>I installed bootmagic, Its a cool little program but it doesn`t work
>with NTFS. Theres no way to convert a NTFS partition to a FAT32, Is
>there?Forget it. Forgot thats a option in partition magic.

TiCaL-aL

2003-02-18, 5:24 pm

Slammer

2003-02-18, 6:24 pm

Stop Stuttering!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Slammer
MCSA, CNA, iNet+, Server+, Net+, A+

TiCaL-aL

2003-02-21, 1:26 pm

On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 23:25:42 GMT, "Slammer" <mschal@houston.rr.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Stop Stuttering!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![
/color]

Thanks fot the smack. I couldn't stop. lol.

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