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| Joe Bloggs 2003-12-18, 10:25 am |
| All - I have two machines both running XP Home. Both are on my home network.
One is a laptop, the other a desktop. Both are sharing folders.
I think that it is the same as a question earlier this week, "Password
Needed....1 of 2 computers", but I didn't get the answers. Just logged on
today.
Anyway, when I try to connect from my laptop to the desktop I get prompted
for a password. I don't have a password set on the desktop. Not sure what it
is looking for. I have tried numerous passwords but nothing is working. I
have tried the username of the desktop, no go.
This is the strange thing; when I enable the "Guest' account on my desktop I
don't even recieve the password prompt on the laptop. It gives me a message
about "Don't have the rights........". So I have to disable the "Guest"
account to get to the password prompt, weird.
Any insight on this please.
TIA
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| John Dearing 2003-12-18, 11:25 am |
| Joe Bloggs wrote:
> All - I have two machines both running XP Home. Both are on my home network.
> One is a laptop, the other a desktop. Both are sharing folders.
>
> I think that it is the same as a question earlier this week, "Password
> Needed....1 of 2 computers", but I didn't get the answers. Just logged on
> today.
>
> Anyway, when I try to connect from my laptop to the desktop I get prompted
> for a password. I don't have a password set on the desktop. Not sure what it
> is looking for. I have tried numerous passwords but nothing is working. I
> have tried the username of the desktop, no go.
>
> This is the strange thing; when I enable the "Guest' account on my desktop I
> don't even recieve the password prompt on the laptop. It gives me a message
> about "Don't have the rights........". So I have to disable the "Guest"
> account to get to the password prompt, weird.
>
> Any insight on this please.
Since both computers are running an "NT" based O/S, Windows NT
networking rules apply. This means that the Username/password
credentials of one computer are used to "log on" to the other computer.
In a Windows NT based O/S there is no such thing as an anonymous logon
in peer-to-peer networking. The closest you can come is enabling the
Guest account, but by default Guest has almost no rights on the machine
and it's poor security practice to increase Guest's rights.
The easiest way around this is to use the same username/password on each
computer. This will enable you to connect to either machine from the
other (just like it used to work in Win9x).
Cheers!!
John
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John Dearing
A+, Network+
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| Joe Bloggs 2003-12-18, 1:25 pm |
| John - The thing is, I can access any other PC on my network without getting
prompted for a password but my desktop asks me for a password that I have
not set. I feel like a user file has got corrupted.
"John Dearing" <John.Dearing@VerYOURPANTSizon.NET> wrote in message
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> Joe Bloggs wrote:
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> Since both computers are running an "NT" based O/S, Windows NT
> networking rules apply. This means that the Username/password
> credentials of one computer are used to "log on" to the other computer.
>
> In a Windows NT based O/S there is no such thing as an anonymous logon
> in peer-to-peer networking. The closest you can come is enabling the
> Guest account, but by default Guest has almost no rights on the machine
> and it's poor security practice to increase Guest's rights.
>
> The easiest way around this is to use the same username/password on each
> computer. This will enable you to connect to either machine from the
> other (just like it used to work in Win9x).
>
> Cheers!!
>
> John
> --
> John Dearing
> A+, Network+
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| John Dearing 2003-12-18, 2:25 pm |
| Joe Bloggs wrote:
> John - The thing is, I can access any other PC on my network without getting
> prompted for a password but my desktop asks me for a password that I have
> not set. I feel like a user file has got corrupted.
What operating system(s) are the "other" PC's running?
My guess is it's a Win9x O/S (Win95/98?98SE?ME)
The peer to peer networking of Win9x operates differently than NT based
O/S's (Windows NT / 2000 / XP). The distinction is security.
There is no inherent security in Win9x. NT based O/S's have security
built in from the start. That's why you *HAVE* to login. There's no such
thing as click "cancel" at the password prompt and still getting in.
Make sure that the system you are trying to access has a user set up
with the same username as the username you are using on the system you
are trying to access it *from*.
Eg: System A - Windows98 username john and no password.
System B - Windows XP Username Daddy with some password.
Someone on System A couldn't access the WinXP system because the
username john doesn't exist on the WinXP machine.
The fix, create a new account on the WinXP machine with a username of
john and no password. That way when the "john" from system A tries to
connect, the username will match and the connection will succeed.
Hope this helps.
John
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John Dearing
A+, Network+
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| John D Loop 2003-12-20, 9:24 pm |
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homenetworking environments!
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"John Dearing" <John.Dearing@VerYOURPANTSizon.NET> wrote in message
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> Joe Bloggs wrote:
>
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> What operating system(s) are the "other" PC's running?
>
> My guess is it's a Win9x O/S (Win95/98?98SE?ME)
>
> The peer to peer networking of Win9x operates differently than NT based
> O/S's (Windows NT / 2000 / XP). The distinction is security.
>
> There is no inherent security in Win9x. NT based O/S's have security
> built in from the start. That's why you *HAVE* to login. There's no such
> thing as click "cancel" at the password prompt and still getting in.
>
> Make sure that the system you are trying to access has a user set up
> with the same username as the username you are using on the system you
> are trying to access it *from*.
>
> Eg: System A - Windows98 username john and no password.
>
> System B - Windows XP Username Daddy with some password.
>
> Someone on System A couldn't access the WinXP system because the
> username john doesn't exist on the WinXP machine.
>
> The fix, create a new account on the WinXP machine with a username of
> john and no password. That way when the "john" from system A tries to
> connect, the username will match and the connection will succeed.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> John
> --
> John Dearing
> A+, Network+
The "simple file sharing" provided with XP Home and Pro (if no domain login)
messes up the normal idea
of logging in. I'm still trying to understand all the ramifications of this
simplification....
John
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:23:46 GMT, "Joe Bloggs" <yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>All - I have two machines both running XP Home. Both are on my home network.
>One is a laptop, the other a desktop. Both are sharing folders.
>
>I think that it is the same as a question earlier this week, "Password
>Needed....1 of 2 computers", but I didn't get the answers. Just logged on
>today.
>
>Anyway, when I try to connect from my laptop to the desktop I get prompted
>for a password. I don't have a password set on the desktop. Not sure what it
>is looking for. I have tried numerous passwords but nothing is working. I
>have tried the username of the desktop, no go.
>
>This is the strange thing; when I enable the "Guest' account on my desktop I
>don't even recieve the password prompt on the laptop. It gives me a message
>about "Don't have the rights........". So I have to disable the "Guest"
>account to get to the password prompt, weird.
>
>Any insight on this please.
>
>TIA
>
Make sure that you have the folder shared. Make sure that it isn't
password protected. Make sure that you don't have the MS Internet
Connection Firewall box checked for that machine. I suspect the latter
may your problem.
Another Computer Bob
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| Michael 2003-12-21, 4:25 pm |
| That is strange. I have 3 XP Home machines on my home network. We can share
folders and I have never seen a prompt for a password.
"Joe Bloggs" <yahoo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:SLiEb.586847$Tr4.1561124@attbi_s03...
> All - I have two machines both running XP Home. Both are on my home
network.
> One is a laptop, the other a desktop. Both are sharing folders.
>
> I think that it is the same as a question earlier this week, "Password
> Needed....1 of 2 computers", but I didn't get the answers. Just logged on
> today.
>
> Anyway, when I try to connect from my laptop to the desktop I get prompted
> for a password. I don't have a password set on the desktop. Not sure what
it
> is looking for. I have tried numerous passwords but nothing is working. I
> have tried the username of the desktop, no go.
>
> This is the strange thing; when I enable the "Guest' account on my desktop
I
> don't even recieve the password prompt on the laptop. It gives me a
message
> about "Don't have the rights........". So I have to disable the "Guest"
> account to get to the password prompt, weird.
>
> Any insight on this please.
>
> TIA
>
>
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| DaDnDe 2003-12-22, 2:43 am |
| have you ever accessed the computer?
if yes, then you have corrupted files on the laptop. if you have a peer to peer network, then the only password it should ask you for (provided you enabled file sharing with full rights)is one for microsoft networks.
make sure that you are in the administrators account. check to see if you can access the files on the laptop from the pc. if that works then uninstall file sharing and reinstall it. | |
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| Great answer John
Exactly correct.
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 17:17:09 GMT, "Joe Bloggs" <yeh@freesurv.net> wrote:
>John - The thing is, I can access any other PC on my network without getting
>prompted for a password but my desktop asks me for a password that I have
>not set. I feel like a user file has got corrupted.
>
>
>"John Dearing" <John.Dearing@VerYOURPANTSizon.NET> wrote in message
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