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John Mabusth

2002-09-15, 12:29 am

Hello All !

Just passed A+ and I guess now I'm on to Network+. Still wondering, since
I'm a newby, what backround/ course of study(s)/ sources of information
would one need/want if they were to operate an ISP ???

This would include learning not only the software, but the hardware aspects
as well.

Serious inquiry !

Thanks ahead of time !!!

xtreme1990


Russ S

2002-09-15, 1:30 am

Hey John

Try lots of money - even a very small ISP has some serious hardware
necessary to operate.

Russ


Russ S

2002-09-15, 2:29 am

Hey John

Try lots of money - even a very small ISP has some serious hardware
necessary to operate.

Russ


John Mabusth

2002-09-15, 3:29 am

Ah ha!

Do you know much about it ?

I read a report from a local university stating some of the requirements,
but it wasn't very detailed in the nuts and bolts of how to set it up,
maintenance, etc., etc.,. The report showed an initial investment of
around 30K (1999) if you bought equipment and software new, and monthly
expenses (self-operated) of around 2K.

The estimate would supposedly service 128 simultaneous 56K dialup
connections (but they were only using one T1 to service this many
simultanious connections, not sure if the math works there)

Supposedly, one could service up to 1200 accounts and be considered an "A"
class ISP with a 10/1 ratio of clients to servicable connections.

I noticed that the prices of T1 - T3 vary about 1000% on their montly rates.
I've seen T1 under 500 and as high as 5000, with similar services.

I open this class for discussion !


----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ S" <noway@nohow.com>
Newsgroups: alt.certification.network-plus
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Best backround for operating an ISP ???


> Hey John
>
> Try lots of money - even a very small ISP has some serious hardware
> necessary to operate.
>
> Russ
>
>



John M

2002-09-15, 3:29 am

Oops, don't know where I got the 128 simultanious connections/modem bank,
I must have been looking at some hardware a long time ago.

"John Mabusth" <xtreme1990@JoiMail.com> wrote in message
news:am1hd8$uv7$1@news.chatlink.com...
> Ah ha!
>
> Do you know much about it ?
>
> I read a report from a local university stating some of the requirements,
> but it wasn't very detailed in the nuts and bolts of how to set it up,
> maintenance, etc., etc.,. The report showed an initial investment of
> around 30K (1999) if you bought equipment and software new, and monthly
> expenses (self-operated) of around 2K.
>
> The estimate would supposedly service 128 simultaneous 56K dialup
> connections (but they were only using one T1 to service this many
> simultanious connections, not sure if the math works there)
>
> Supposedly, one could service up to 1200 accounts and be considered an

"A"
> class ISP with a 10/1 ratio of clients to servicable connections.
>
> I noticed that the prices of T1 - T3 vary about 1000% on their montly

rates.
> I've seen T1 under 500 and as high as 5000, with similar services.
>
> I open this class for discussion !
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ S" <noway@nohow.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.certification.network-plus
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 1:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Best backround for operating an ISP ???
>
>
> > Hey John
> >
> > Try lots of money - even a very small ISP has some serious hardware
> > necessary to operate.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >

>
>



John Mabusth

2002-09-15, 4:29 am

Ah ha!

Do you know much about it ?

I read a report from a local university stating some of the requirements,
but it wasn't very detailed in the nuts and bolts of how to set it up,
maintenance, etc., etc.,. The report showed an initial investment of
around 30K (1999) if you bought equipment and software new, and monthly
expenses (self-operated) of around 2K.

The estimate would supposedly service 128 simultaneous 56K dialup
connections (but they were only using one T1 to service this many
simultanious connections, not sure if the math works there)

Supposedly, one could service up to 1200 accounts and be considered an "A"
class ISP with a 10/1 ratio of clients to servicable connections.

I noticed that the prices of T1 - T3 vary about 1000% on their montly rates.
I've seen T1 under 500 and as high as 5000, with similar services.

I open this class for discussion !


----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ S" <noway@nohow.com>
Newsgroups: alt.certification.network-plus
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: Best backround for operating an ISP ???


> Hey John
>
> Try lots of money - even a very small ISP has some serious hardware
> necessary to operate.
>
> Russ
>
>



John M

2002-09-15, 4:29 am

Oops, don't know where I got the 128 simultanious connections/modem bank,
I must have been looking at some hardware a long time ago.

"John Mabusth" <xtreme1990@JoiMail.com> wrote in message
news:am1hd8$uv7$1@news.chatlink.com...
> Ah ha!
>
> Do you know much about it ?
>
> I read a report from a local university stating some of the requirements,
> but it wasn't very detailed in the nuts and bolts of how to set it up,
> maintenance, etc., etc.,. The report showed an initial investment of
> around 30K (1999) if you bought equipment and software new, and monthly
> expenses (self-operated) of around 2K.
>
> The estimate would supposedly service 128 simultaneous 56K dialup
> connections (but they were only using one T1 to service this many
> simultanious connections, not sure if the math works there)
>
> Supposedly, one could service up to 1200 accounts and be considered an

"A"
> class ISP with a 10/1 ratio of clients to servicable connections.
>
> I noticed that the prices of T1 - T3 vary about 1000% on their montly

rates.
> I've seen T1 under 500 and as high as 5000, with similar services.
>
> I open this class for discussion !
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Russ S" <noway@nohow.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.certification.network-plus
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 1:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Best backround for operating an ISP ???
>
>
> > Hey John
> >
> > Try lots of money - even a very small ISP has some serious hardware
> > necessary to operate.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >

>
>



Russ S

2002-09-15, 5:29 am

Hey John

I am in New Zealand, but I have a friend who was involved in the set-up of
an ISP here and there wasn't much change from 100K. At the rates then that
would have been about 30/35K USD. Not sure about running costs though as
they are extremely volatile here in NZ.
As far as your knowledge I guess it would depend on what you are going to do
for mail servers, web servers etc. A+ and Net+ would be a decent start and
I would guess MCSA if you were going in that direction, or something more
relavent if you were Unix/Linux. On the hardware side I would sure as heck
go for a reasonable amount of redundancy to ensure QOS to your customers. I
ditched at least three ISPs that were not consistent enough for my
standards.
Having a couple of switched on people for your helpdesk would be a bonus
too - retail customers are very demanding and need a fair bit of babying.


Russ



Russ S

2002-09-15, 6:29 am

Hey John

I am in New Zealand, but I have a friend who was involved in the set-up of
an ISP here and there wasn't much change from 100K. At the rates then that
would have been about 30/35K USD. Not sure about running costs though as
they are extremely volatile here in NZ.
As far as your knowledge I guess it would depend on what you are going to do
for mail servers, web servers etc. A+ and Net+ would be a decent start and
I would guess MCSA if you were going in that direction, or something more
relavent if you were Unix/Linux. On the hardware side I would sure as heck
go for a reasonable amount of redundancy to ensure QOS to your customers. I
ditched at least three ISPs that were not consistent enough for my
standards.
Having a couple of switched on people for your helpdesk would be a bonus
too - retail customers are very demanding and need a fair bit of babying.


Russ



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