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| Chris Evans 2002-09-09, 5:28 pm |
| An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices and the
answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone please
help?
Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that still
won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to find the
answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone tell
me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types (such
as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs can't do
either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be treated
exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
Chris
A+
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| Russ S 2002-09-09, 11:28 pm |
| Chris
I've only been doing Net+ for a week and have very little experience in the
field but I am positive that a router would do that. Essentially the router
strips away the frame, the MAC address etc and adds new protocol. Seeing
that a router will work on an Ethernet or a Token Ring system I would expect
that by using TCP/IP a common connection would be made.
Russ
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| Russ S 2002-09-10, 12:29 am |
| Chris
I've only been doing Net+ for a week and have very little experience in the
field but I am positive that a router would do that. Essentially the router
strips away the frame, the MAC address etc and adds new protocol. Seeing
that a router will work on an Ethernet or a Token Ring system I would expect
that by using TCP/IP a common connection would be made.
Russ
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| Alan Blackwell 2002-09-16, 9:29 am |
| Gateways work at OSI model layer 7\the application layer. A gateway
functions to reconcile differences between two dissimilar networks. Messages
are not only repackaged for transmission between different networks (CSMA/CD
to token-passing), but the contents of the messages are converted into a
format the destination can use and understand. Now our unlike LANs can talk
to each other. Gateways can also provide links between microcomputer
networks and mainframes.
Routers only connect networks running similar access methods. They work at
the third layer of the OSI model\the network layer. Like bridges and
repeaters, routers can connect networks over different wiring media and
topologies.
"Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices and
the
> answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone please
> help?
>
> Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
still
> won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to find
the
> answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone tell
> me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
(such
> as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs can't
do
> either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
treated
> exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Chris
> A+
>
>
>
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| Alan Blackwell 2002-09-16, 10:28 am |
| Gateways work at OSI model layer 7\the application layer. A gateway
functions to reconcile differences between two dissimilar networks. Messages
are not only repackaged for transmission between different networks (CSMA/CD
to token-passing), but the contents of the messages are converted into a
format the destination can use and understand. Now our unlike LANs can talk
to each other. Gateways can also provide links between microcomputer
networks and mainframes.
Routers only connect networks running similar access methods. They work at
the third layer of the OSI model\the network layer. Like bridges and
repeaters, routers can connect networks over different wiring media and
topologies.
"Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices and
the
> answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone please
> help?
>
> Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
still
> won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to find
the
> answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone tell
> me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
(such
> as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs can't
do
> either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
treated
> exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Chris
> A+
>
>
>
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| SilverSurfer 2002-09-17, 5:28 pm |
| A router can connect dissimilar network technologies.
"Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices and
the
> answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone please
> help?
>
> Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
still
> won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to find
the
> answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone tell
> me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
(such
> as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs can't
do
> either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
treated
> exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Chris
> A+
>
>
>
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| SilverSurfer 2002-09-17, 6:28 pm |
| A router can connect dissimilar network technologies.
"Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices and
the
> answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone please
> help?
>
> Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
still
> won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to find
the
> answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone tell
> me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
(such
> as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs can't
do
> either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
treated
> exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Chris
> A+
>
>
>
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| Darren Crook 2002-09-26, 10:29 am |
| Hi,
Firstly, a Bridge can connect segments of dissimilar media type, eg: UTP &
Coaxial. Here though, both segments need to be using same protocol.
A router on the other hand is well capable of connecting segments that use
dissimilar protocols, such as Ethernet & Token Ring. By this definition,
many routers are also gateways. Bare in mind though, that routers will not
pass non-routable protocols such as NetBeui.
Remember...Bridge-Layer2
Router-Layer3
Gateway-All 7 Layers
SilverSurfer < silversurfer@pleasedonotsendan
yemailwhatsoever.com> wrote in
message news:X%Nh9.691$7D5.36284563@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> A router can connect dissimilar network technologies.
>
>
> "Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> > An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices and
> the
> > answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone
please
> > help?
> >
> > Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
> still
> > won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to find
> the
> > answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone
tell
> > me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
> (such
> > as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> > dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> > wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs
can't
> do
> > either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
> treated
> > exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > Chris
> > A+
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Darren Crook 2002-09-26, 11:28 am |
| Hi,
Firstly, a Bridge can connect segments of dissimilar media type, eg: UTP &
Coaxial. Here though, both segments need to be using same protocol.
A router on the other hand is well capable of connecting segments that use
dissimilar protocols, such as Ethernet & Token Ring. By this definition,
many routers are also gateways. Bare in mind though, that routers will not
pass non-routable protocols such as NetBeui.
Remember...Bridge-Layer2
Router-Layer3
Gateway-All 7 Layers
SilverSurfer < silversurfer@pleasedonotsendan
yemailwhatsoever.com> wrote in
message news:X%Nh9.691$7D5.36284563@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> A router can connect dissimilar network technologies.
>
>
> "Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> > An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices and
> the
> > answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone
please
> > help?
> >
> > Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
> still
> > won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to find
> the
> > answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone
tell
> > me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
> (such
> > as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> > dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> > wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs
can't
> do
> > either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
> treated
> > exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
> >
> > Chris
> > A+
> >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| SilverSurfer 2002-09-26, 11:28 am |
| Except when it is a brouter (pass NetBeui) , not very much in use though.
"Darren Crook" <darren.crook@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:jZFk9.828$y44.108461@newsfep2-gui...
> Hi,
>
> Firstly, a Bridge can connect segments of dissimilar media type, eg: UTP &
> Coaxial. Here though, both segments need to be using same protocol.
>
> A router on the other hand is well capable of connecting segments that use
> dissimilar protocols, such as Ethernet & Token Ring. By this definition,
> many routers are also gateways. Bare in mind though, that routers will
not
> pass non-routable protocols such as NetBeui.
>
> Remember...Bridge-Layer2
> Router-Layer3
> Gateway-All 7 Layers
> SilverSurfer < silversurfer@pleasedonotsendan
yemailwhatsoever.com> wrote in
> message news:X%Nh9.691$7D5.36284563@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> > A router can connect dissimilar network technologies.
> >
> >
> > "Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> > news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> > > An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices
and
> > the
> > > answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone
> please
> > > help?
> > >
> > > Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
> > still
> > > won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to
find
> > the
> > > answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone
> tell
> > > me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
> > (such
> > > as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> > > dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> > > wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs
> can't
> > do
> > > either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
> > treated
> > > exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > A+
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| SilverSurfer 2002-09-26, 12:29 pm |
| Except when it is a brouter (pass NetBeui) , not very much in use though.
"Darren Crook" <darren.crook@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:jZFk9.828$y44.108461@newsfep2-gui...
> Hi,
>
> Firstly, a Bridge can connect segments of dissimilar media type, eg: UTP &
> Coaxial. Here though, both segments need to be using same protocol.
>
> A router on the other hand is well capable of connecting segments that use
> dissimilar protocols, such as Ethernet & Token Ring. By this definition,
> many routers are also gateways. Bare in mind though, that routers will
not
> pass non-routable protocols such as NetBeui.
>
> Remember...Bridge-Layer2
> Router-Layer3
> Gateway-All 7 Layers
> SilverSurfer < silversurfer@pleasedonotsendan
yemailwhatsoever.com> wrote in
> message news:X%Nh9.691$7D5.36284563@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
> > A router can connect dissimilar network technologies.
> >
> >
> > "Chris Evans" <evans364@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> > news:Bj8f9.210237$kp.795106@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> > > An above thread made me think if I knew enough about network devices
and
> > the
> > > answer I came up with very, very quickly is NO!!! So could someone
> please
> > > help?
> > >
> > > Okay, I can memorize the defintions of these devices all day, but that
> > still
> > > won't answer some of the questons I have and I have been unable to
find
> > the
> > > answers to some of these questions in my study materials. Can anyone
> tell
> > > me which devices can connect two segments with dissimilar cable types
> > (such
> > > as 10BaseT and 10Base2) and which ones can connect two segments using
> > > dissimilar protocols or media access schemes? The devices that I'm
> > > wondering about are hubs (repeaters), bridges, I'm pretty sure MAUs
> can't
> > do
> > > either, routers, brouters, switches, and is a default gateway to be
> > treated
> > > exactly as a router in this respect? Any help will be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > A+
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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