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| I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
di704p). Lately (since june 6th). I have had a lot of problems with
email locking up; "SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
I can not send an attachment of 10k or less, or forward an email
even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i use
outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
only to get the same problem. When I bypass the router, all is well
and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
go back to cable. Does anyone have a solution for me?
thanks in advance
frank
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| Darian 2002-07-16, 11:25 pm |
| Your packets should be sent directly to your ISP from the DSL modem that
is installed from your phone company. I can't figure out why you need a
router, though. It doesn't sound like you're within a network of
computers, are you?
You said ...
"I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
di704p)"
If you have a DSL, then you have a digital phone line setup with a
digital modem.
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You said ...
"When I bypass the router, all is well
and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
go back to cable."
Cable connections are normally faster than DSL anyway.
---------
You said ...
"SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
SMTP is just a service provided from a mail server, and servers are
generally set to have timeouts when a transmission takes too long. If
the packet is coming into your house and hitting the router first, then
the router has to have a route to whatever IP address is requesting the
packet.
---------
Here's some questions that will help troubleshoot and maybe understand...
Do you have the router set to for incoming packets to your network? Does
the router have a dynamic routing table, or do you need to make a static
table? Why haven't you talked to the support group at your ISP/
frank wrote:
> I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
> di704p). Lately (since june 6th). I have had a lot of problems with
> email locking up; "SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
> I can not send an attachment of 10k or less, or forward an email
> even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i use
> outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
> only to get the same problem. When I bypass the router, all is well
> and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
> go back to cable. Does anyone have a solution for me?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> frank
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| Tech-7 2002-07-17, 2:25 pm |
| I would says it's a configuration issue with the router, check to make sure
that if it has a fire wall, it's not set to high or some sort of custom
level. Make sure port 25 is not blocked.
In your mail client make sure you are using port 25 for smtp and also verify
you have the correct smtp server specified.
That would not warrent you moving over to cable from dsl, I would assume
that you would still have the same problem.
--
Remember when you were young,
You shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond
"Darian" <Darian@TCWorks.Net> wrote in message
news:3D344863.6B1D1387@TCWorks.Net...
> Your packets should be sent directly to your ISP from the DSL modem that
> is installed from your phone company. I can't figure out why you need a
> router, though. It doesn't sound like you're within a network of
> computers, are you?
>
> You said ...
> "I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
> di704p)"
>
> If you have a DSL, then you have a digital phone line setup with a
> digital modem.
> ---------
> You said ...
> "When I bypass the router, all is well
> and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
> go back to cable."
>
> Cable connections are normally faster than DSL anyway.
> ---------
> You said ...
> "SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
>
> SMTP is just a service provided from a mail server, and servers are
> generally set to have timeouts when a transmission takes too long. If
> the packet is coming into your house and hitting the router first, then
> the router has to have a route to whatever IP address is requesting the
> packet.
> ---------
>
> Here's some questions that will help troubleshoot and maybe understand...
>
> Do you have the router set to for incoming packets to your network? Does
>
> the router have a dynamic routing table, or do you need to make a static
> table? Why haven't you talked to the support group at your ISP/
>
> frank wrote:
>
> > I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
> > di704p). Lately (since june 6th). I have had a lot of problems with
> > email locking up; "SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
> > I can not send an attachment of 10k or less, or forward an email
> > even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i use
> > outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
> > only to get the same problem. When I bypass the router, all is well
> > and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
> > go back to cable. Does anyone have a solution for me?
> >
> > thanks in advance
> >
> > frank
>
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| LAN Man 2002-07-17, 7:25 pm |
| It's definitely a router issue, your troubleshooting steps appear to have
pinpointed that.
1) Possibly the firmware version for the DLink?
2) Routing table issue? If it is dynamic, try clearing it and then let it
rebuild. If you temporarily change it to static and create the addys, does
it make any difference?
3) Increase the server timeout setting in OE or Netscape and see if anything
changes.
I'm not familiar with the DLink config so I'm not much help there. Any
settings that look unfamiliar or you're unsure about? Throw 'em at us.
LAN Man
"The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of
strength, not a lack of knowledge, but a lack of will."
~ Vincent Thomas "Vince" Lombardi
"frank" <frank37@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:3D34CBAC.D25E5C60@ix.netcom.com...
> I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
> di704p). Lately (since june 6th). I have had a lot of problems with
> email locking up; "SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
> I can not send an attachment of 10k or less, or forward an email
> even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i use
> outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
> only to get the same problem. When I bypass the router, all is well
> and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
> go back to cable. Does anyone have a solution for me?
>
> thanks in advance
>
> frank
>
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| CIWBound 2002-07-19, 11:25 pm |
| Would someone please exlpain to me why to use a router for a DSL connection if
it's only a home pc and a ISP?
Even if a network node doesn't send a packet to another network it doesn't need
a router.. I can't seem to find my IDG book on routers with DSL modems at the
moment..
CIWBound and Networty .. Still learning too!
LAN Man wrote:
> It's definitely a router issue, your troubleshooting steps appear to have
> pinpointed that.
>
> 1) Possibly the firmware version for the DLink?
>
> 2) Routing table issue? If it is dynamic, try clearing it and then let it
> rebuild. If you temporarily change it to static and create the addys, does
> it make any difference?
>
> 3) Increase the server timeout setting in OE or Netscape and see if anything
> changes.
>
> I'm not familiar with the DLink config so I'm not much help there. Any
> settings that look unfamiliar or you're unsure about? Throw 'em at us.
>
> LAN Man
>
> "The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of
> strength, not a lack of knowledge, but a lack of will."
> ~ Vincent Thomas "Vince" Lombardi
>
> "frank" <frank37@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3D34CBAC.D25E5C60@ix.netcom.com...
> > I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
> > di704p). Lately (since june 6th). I have had a lot of problems with
> > email locking up; "SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
> > I can not send an attachment of 10k or less, or forward an email
> > even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i use
> > outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
> > only to get the same problem. When I bypass the router, all is well
> > and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
> > go back to cable. Does anyone have a solution for me?
> >
> > thanks in advance
> >
> > frank
> >
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| Note: "...This will happen on three different pcs whether i use..."
If you have more than one pc, such as the person who started this thread,
the simplest way to go is a router. It makes connection sharing extremly
easy and NAT is good for security.
With a router you can also make it look like the router is actually a sever
and not a router at all by mapping a port thru the router to a computer on
the network. Mapping a port is an effective way to have more that one
computer on a network using dhcp for several computers with internal ip
addresses, then have one computer set to use the external wan up it's own,
which you could use for a webserver or ssh box or what ever you like.
~Rick
--
Remember when you were young,
You shone like the sun.
Shine on you crazy diamond
"CIWBound" <CIWBound@smtp.info> wrote in message
news:3D3843CC.631F0D23@smtp.info...
> Would someone please exlpain to me why to use a router for a DSL
connection if
> it's only a home pc and a ISP?
>
> Even if a network node doesn't send a packet to another network it doesn't
need
> a router.. I can't seem to find my IDG book on routers with DSL modems at
the
> moment..
>
> CIWBound and Networty .. Still learning too!
>
>
> LAN Man wrote:
>
> > It's definitely a router issue, your troubleshooting steps appear to
have
> > pinpointed that.
> >
> > 1) Possibly the firmware version for the DLink?
> >
> > 2) Routing table issue? If it is dynamic, try clearing it and then let
it
> > rebuild. If you temporarily change it to static and create the addys,
does
> > it make any difference?
> >
> > 3) Increase the server timeout setting in OE or Netscape and see if
anything
> > changes.
> >
> > I'm not familiar with the DLink config so I'm not much help there. Any
> > settings that look unfamiliar or you're unsure about? Throw 'em at us.
> >
> > LAN Man
> >
> > "The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of
> > strength, not a lack of knowledge, but a lack of will."
> > ~ Vincent Thomas "Vince" Lombardi
> >
> > "frank" <frank37@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3D34CBAC.D25E5C60@ix.netcom.com...
> > > I am using Windows XP and netscape with dsl and a router (d-link
> > > di704p). Lately (since june 6th). I have had a lot of problems with
> > > email locking up; "SMTP incoming data timeout-closing connection."
> > > I can not send an attachment of 10k or less, or forward an email
> > > even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i use
> > > outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
> > > only to get the same problem. When I bypass the router, all is well
> > > and there is no problem with email. If i cannot get a solution i will
> > > go back to cable. Does anyone have a solution for me?
> > >
> > > thanks in advance
> > >
> > > frank
> > >
>
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| MCSEwannabe 2002-07-20, 7:25 am |
| CIWBound <CIWBound@smtp.info> wrote:
> Would someone please exlpain to me why to use a router for a DSL
> connection if it's only a home pc and a ISP?
>
If it's only a single PC, they're probably using the router as a firewall to
protect the PC.
"Routers" used to be just routers, these days they're
routers/gateways/NATS/firewalls.
| |
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| The D-Link 704P is more than just a "router". It is a 4 port
auto speed selecting switch with a built in parallel port print
server, rollover to dial up modem serial port, DHCP server,
firewall, and NAT.
Moreover, MY dsl "modem" is a small single port CISCO router...
Provided free of charge by my DLS provider.
Someone else stated that cable is always faster than DSL.
Not true if you are on RoadRunner... Time Warner has intentionally
throttled down RR's doscis modems to a speed approx 75% what I
get on DSL. They said it was to ensure that multiple users on
the same cable segment wouldn't notice bandwidth changes as their
neighbors used theirr systems. DSL on the otherhand, is only
affected by the "diameter of the pipe" connecting the DSLAM to
the Web. My wire shows the same responsiveness and speed right
up to the point where the DSLAM gets slammed. Which I have NEVER
noticed happening on my connection.
CIWBound <CIWBound@smtp.info> wrote in news:3D3843CC.631F0D23@smtp.info:
> Would someone please exlpain to me why to use a router for a DSL
> connection if it's only a home pc and a ISP?
>
> Even if a network node doesn't send a packet to another network it
> doesn't need a router.. I can't seem to find my IDG book on routers
> with DSL modems at the moment..
>
> CIWBound and Networty .. Still learning too!
>
>
[colo
r=darkred]
>> > even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i
>> > use outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,[/color]
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| U only need a router or as we know them (a dhcp enabled switch) if u have
more than 1 pc u intend to connect to the internet simultaneously. but since
u only have 1 pc u don;t need to be bothered about routers. good luck.
"Matt" <forget.it@not.here.com> wrote in message
news:Xns92C56349267Atrs80m4@21
6.168.3.44...
> The D-Link 704P is more than just a "router". It is a 4 port
> auto speed selecting switch with a built in parallel port print
> server, rollover to dial up modem serial port, DHCP server,
> firewall, and NAT.
>
> Moreover, MY dsl "modem" is a small single port CISCO router...
> Provided free of charge by my DLS provider.
>
> Someone else stated that cable is always faster than DSL.
> Not true if you are on RoadRunner... Time Warner has intentionally
> throttled down RR's doscis modems to a speed approx 75% what I
> get on DSL. They said it was to ensure that multiple users on
> the same cable segment wouldn't notice bandwidth changes as their
> neighbors used theirr systems. DSL on the otherhand, is only
> affected by the "diameter of the pipe" connecting the DSLAM to
> the Web. My wire shows the same responsiveness and speed right
> up to the point where the DSLAM gets slammed. Which I have NEVER
> noticed happening on my connection.
>
>
> CIWBound <CIWBound@smtp.info> wrote in news:3D3843CC.631F0D23@smtp.info:
>
> > Would someone please exlpain to me why to use a router for a DSL
> > connection if it's only a home pc and a ISP?
> >
> > Even if a network node doesn't send a packet to another network it
> > doesn't need a router.. I can't seem to find my IDG book on routers
> > with DSL modems at the moment..
> >
> > CIWBound and Networty .. Still learning too!
> >
> >
>
>
>
> >> > even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i
> >> > use outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
>
>
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| Wes Iiames 2002-11-19, 6:24 pm |
| I always advise those who ask to use a router with a broadband connection.
That way they gain an added level of security from the router's NAT
wes
"shaka" <shaka@zulu.com> wrote in message
news:jtzC9.1870$OQ5.275728@news2.west.cox.net...
> U only need a router or as we know them (a dhcp enabled switch) if u have
> more than 1 pc u intend to connect to the internet simultaneously. but
since
> u only have 1 pc u don;t need to be bothered about routers. good luck.
> "Matt" <forget.it@not.here.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns92C56349267Atrs80m4@21
6.168.3.44...
> > The D-Link 704P is more than just a "router". It is a 4 port
> > auto speed selecting switch with a built in parallel port print
> > server, rollover to dial up modem serial port, DHCP server,
> > firewall, and NAT.
> >
> > Moreover, MY dsl "modem" is a small single port CISCO router...
> > Provided free of charge by my DLS provider.
> >
> > Someone else stated that cable is always faster than DSL.
> > Not true if you are on RoadRunner... Time Warner has intentionally
> > throttled down RR's doscis modems to a speed approx 75% what I
> > get on DSL. They said it was to ensure that multiple users on
> > the same cable segment wouldn't notice bandwidth changes as their
> > neighbors used theirr systems. DSL on the otherhand, is only
> > affected by the "diameter of the pipe" connecting the DSLAM to
> > the Web. My wire shows the same responsiveness and speed right
> > up to the point where the DSLAM gets slammed. Which I have NEVER
> > noticed happening on my connection.
> >
> >
> > CIWBound <CIWBound@smtp.info> wrote in news:3D3843CC.631F0D23@smtp.info:
> >
> > > Would someone please exlpain to me why to use a router for a DSL
> > > connection if it's only a home pc and a ISP?
> > >
> > > Even if a network node doesn't send a packet to another network it
> > > doesn't need a router.. I can't seem to find my IDG book on routers
> > > with DSL modems at the moment..
> > >
> > > CIWBound and Networty .. Still learning too!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > >> > even to myself. This will happen on three different pcs whether i
> > >> > use outlook express, or netscape. I have swapped for a newrouter,
> >
> >
>
>
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