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| T Goddard 2003-05-29, 8:24 am |
| Hi Everyone
I'm slowly studying towards my CCNA (home study from a book) and it's pretty
obvious to me that my lack of hands-on practice with Cisco equipment is a
drawback.
Are there any good simulators (low price or legally free) that will help me
to practice with the Cisco equipment that's otherwise way out of my budget?
I'd appreciate your help on this one...
Tim.
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My real e-mail address is ngroup1 before the at followed by
deskjockey.co.uk.
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| Todd Lammle 2003-05-29, 3:24 pm |
| The best one without a doubt is the new RouterSim 4.0. It really is
good. Also, their new CCNA CertSim simulates the new sims on the CCNA
exam, plus the drag n' drops and multiple choice questions.
Check out www.routersim.com
"T Goddard" <see.signature@for.email.address.invalid> wrote in message news:<bb502n$2su$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
> Hi Everyone
>
> I'm slowly studying towards my CCNA (home study from a book) and it's pretty
> obvious to me that my lack of hands-on practice with Cisco equipment is a
> drawback.
>
> Are there any good simulators (low price or legally free) that will help me
> to practice with the Cisco equipment that's otherwise way out of my budget?
>
> I'd appreciate your help on this one...
>
> Tim.
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| Todd Lammle wrote:
> The best one without a doubt is the new RouterSim 4.0. It really is
> good. Also, their new CCNA CertSim simulates the new sims on the CCNA
> exam, plus the drag n' drops and multiple choice questions.
> Check out www.routersim.com
>
>
>
> "T Goddard" <see.signature@for.email.address.invalid> wrote in message
> news:<bb502n$2su$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
>> Hi Everyone
>>
>> I'm slowly studying towards my CCNA (home study from a book) and it's
>> pretty obvious to me that my lack of hands-on practice with Cisco
>> equipment is a drawback.
>>
>> Are there any good simulators (low price or legally free) that will help
>> me to practice with the Cisco equipment that's otherwise way out of my
>> budget?
>>
>> I'd appreciate your help on this one...
>>
>> Tim.
What about Cisco's eSIM? I've heard that's pretty good as well.
Sean
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| mosfet 2003-05-29, 10:24 pm |
| Slight deviation here. If you're a Linux or FreeBSD person, you may wish to
install GNU/Zebra (http://www.zebra.org/). It is a routing daemon that has
a very IOS-esque interface.
There are quirks, and they are by no means semantically identical - but if
you want to learn RIP, OSPF & BGP, access lists etc, Zebra will allow you to
put a wrench in your hands that may be useful in some abstracted way.
Caveats:
No IGRP or EIGRP
Syntax differs from the IOS
You need at least 2 PCs running Linux or some BSD variant
You can also check out cish, an shell for Linux that mimics the IOS:
http://www.gnu.org/directory/Networ.../misc/cish.html
In my case I am using a PPro 200 w/ 64MB o' RAM & 3 3com XL NICs + FreeBSD
4.3, Zebra, altq, ethfw & ipfilter as a distribution router to my Cisco lab,
DMZ & nat box which faces my ISP. The DR exchanges routes with a 2513 via
OSPF. There are other routing daemons in the same vein, just google for
them 
Good stuff, recommend you play with it!
"T Goddard" <see.signature@for.email.address.invalid> wrote in message
news:bb502n$2su$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> Hi Everyone
>
> I'm slowly studying towards my CCNA (home study from a book) and it's
pretty
> obvious to me that my lack of hands-on practice with Cisco equipment is a
> drawback.
>
> Are there any good simulators (low price or legally free) that will help
me
> to practice with the Cisco equipment that's otherwise way out of my
budget?
>
> I'd appreciate your help on this one...
>
> Tim.
>
> --
> My real e-mail address is ngroup1 before the at followed by
> deskjockey.co.uk.
>
>
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| I'm too interested in simulation software for ccna.
once I saw a cisco e-lab simulator for e-lab activities only for semester
two. I wonder if such kind of software exist also for semesters 1,3,4. and
how much is it?
tnx
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| Netwerkz 2003-05-30, 2:24 pm |
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"ping" <nomail@thank.you> wrote in message
news:C9LBa.30045$g92.616506@news2.tin.it...
> I'm too interested in simulation software for ccna.
> once I saw a cisco e-lab simulator for e-lab activities only for semester
> two. I wonder if such kind of software exist also for semesters 1,3,4. and
> how much is it?
>
> tnx
>
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try www.routersim.com ..they made the e-Trainer.
The 4.1 Visualyzer looks promising.
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| Connie 2003-06-01, 4:24 am |
| try www.otd.com.au good software,pretty cheap
"Netwerkz" <Netwerkz101@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> "ping" <nomail@thank.you> wrote in message
> news:C9LBa.30045$g92.616506@news2.tin.it...
> > I'm too interested in simulation software for ccna.
> > once I saw a cisco e-lab simulator for e-lab activities only for
semester
> > two. I wonder if such kind of software exist also for semesters 1,3,4.
and
> > how much is it?
> >
> > tnx
> >
> >
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> try www.routersim.com ..they made the e-Trainer.
> The 4.1 Visualyzer looks promising.
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| T Goddard 2003-06-02, 1:24 pm |
| Thanks very much for the information, it certainly looks impressive.
Tim.
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My real e-mail address is ngroup1 before the at followed by
deskjockey.co.uk.
"Todd Lammle" <todd@lammle.com> wrote in message
news:c81896c6.0305291140.a8af3f7@posting.google.com...
> The best one without a doubt is the new RouterSim 4.0. It really is
> good. Also, their new CCNA CertSim simulates the new sims on the CCNA
> exam, plus the drag n' drops and multiple choice questions.
> Check out www.routersim.com
>
>
>
> "T Goddard" <see.signature@for.email.address.invalid> wrote in message
news:<bb502n$2su$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I'm slowly studying towards my CCNA (home study from a book) and it's
pretty
> > obvious to me that my lack of hands-on practice with Cisco equipment is
a
> > drawback.
> >
> > Are there any good simulators (low price or legally free) that will help
me
> > to practice with the Cisco equipment that's otherwise way out of my
budget?
> >
> > I'd appreciate your help on this one...
> >
> > Tim.
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| This really Todd Lammle, the author? Off topic, but wanted to say thanks for
the excellent Sybex 507 book. I read it back in the summer of 2001 and
passed CCNA with flying colors mostly because of the excellent coverage.
Thanks again.
"Todd Lammle" <todd@lammle.com> wrote in message
news:c81896c6.0305291140.a8af3f7@posting.google.com...
> The best one without a doubt is the new RouterSim 4.0. It really is
> good. Also, their new CCNA CertSim simulates the new sims on the CCNA
> exam, plus the drag n' drops and multiple choice questions.
> Check out www.routersim.com
>
>
>
> "T Goddard" <see.signature@for.email.address.invalid> wrote in message
news:<bb502n$2su$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I'm slowly studying towards my CCNA (home study from a book) and it's
pretty
> > obvious to me that my lack of hands-on practice with Cisco equipment is
a
> > drawback.
> >
> > Are there any good simulators (low price or legally free) that will help
me
> > to practice with the Cisco equipment that's otherwise way out of my
budget?
> >
> > I'd appreciate your help on this one...
> >
> > Tim.
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| StormCaster 2003-06-22, 7:51 am |
| Hehe.. just HAD to sign up for this forum when I saw the alleged "Todd" there post a comment.. we go way back. Sorry but I don't think that is him.. could be wrong though. Oh and yes this IS my first post here as well.
On your question of a "good router simulator", well truth is, there ARE NO "good router simulators"  ! The best thing to do is get your hands on the real-deal! however, I know all too well how expensive that can be and, unless you are going for CCIE it's hard to justify that amount.
I see most folks here recommending "CCNA3.2" or "Routersim"; good product, really. I can SEE why TODD would jump on that cause he has a "vested interest" in that application  ! But there is another one out there I REALLY like, and that is Boson's Netsim v5, I think it is v5 anyway! It's pretty new and based on their tried and true "Router Simulator v4.x". The graphics for the routers they use in their Network Topology ARE a little weird looking and it is clunky compard to Routersim 3.2 BUT it does work great!
I like the Boson product because you can telent, REAL telnet! I spoke with Dawn at Routersim and she said the next version of their product will do some amazing things too, like the ability to "connect seperate networks". So that way if you do a layout and I do one and whatever, we can CONNECT those together! Great idea, now lets see it work right?
Cisco has, well I don't think a very good, pure simulator. Their eSIM v1.1, as well as a couple of other I know of, is written in FLASH of all things AND it is NOT DYNAMIC EITHER! So you can't create your own networks with it.
I would suggest that you go with Routersims "Network Visualizer" as well. If you order it now, you will STILL be eligible for the 4.1 PATCH which will be out very soon (July?) now. AND it is about $50 less than Boson's. HOWEVER, BOSON I see has a deal where, if you go to their web page, there is a NUMBER. If you USE that number with your ORDER, they take $100 RIGHT OFF THE TOP  ! They normally want $249 for this sim, so this will make a HUGE difference in price!
Whichever one you get good luck.Try to get your hands on a REAL router for a day though as well; makes a diff! Good luck!
StormCaster | |
| joshua delcore 2005-04-25, 10:35 pm |
| What would be the current/best/cheapest simulator for all of Cisco exams? I am particular thinking about a simulated sandbox mode with many different routers/switches to play with…just not the 2 or 3 different kinds + most of the CLI commands or atleast as many as possible.
-Josh Delcore |
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