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| Hansang Bae 2004-04-20, 11:25 pm |
| In article <gu6dnZvvGrbTIBjdRVn-ig@wideopenwest.com>,
j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom says...
> FYI.....
> http://www.itpaa.org/
I know a few IT related unions, but they aren't as powerful as other
traditional unions.
I agree that corporations are getting greedier, but it's our fault.
Every stock owner is at fault. Most could care less what the company
was doing so long as their stocks were soaring.
That and the gov't turned a blind eye towards "business as usual" Wall
street traders, auditors, CEO's etc.
AT&T's CEO sits on Citigroup's board (and vice versa). Why is it that
Citigroup had such a cozy relationship with AT&T? No one could see such
a simple conflicts of interest?
One part of the company doing the investment banking while the other was
doing an audit? Laughable.
I for one think Spitzer did a great service by bringing such wide spread
corruption to the public's attention.
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| John Agosta 2004-04-21, 12:25 am |
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"Hansang Bae" <uonr@alp.ee.pbz> wrote in message
news:MPG.1aefa8f054f46052989c56@news-server.nyc.rr.com...
> In article <gu6dnZvvGrbTIBjdRVn-ig@wideopenwest.com>,
> j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom says...
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> I know a few IT related unions, but they aren't as powerful as other
> traditional unions.
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Yep.
"Don't mess with Bruno, he's with the concrete guys"
doesn't have the same ring as
"don't mess with Phillip, he's with the IT guys."
:-)
> I agree that corporations are getting greedier, but it's our fault.
> Every stock owner is at fault. Most could care less what the company
> was doing so long as their stocks were soaring.
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I don't know about "most."
I'm sure the tens of thousands that have lost careers and saw their stock go
up 2 bucks
would rather have their decent wage jobs instead of the 2 bucks per share.
The guys upstairs who own hundreds of thousands of shares like the 2 buck
increase,
but that's probably not 'most' people.
> That and the gov't turned a blind eye towards "business as usual" Wall
> street traders, auditors, CEO's etc.
>
It's a rigged game that people like you and me are excluded from,
and in many cases criminal.
> AT&T's CEO sits on Citigroup's board (and vice versa). Why is it that
> Citigroup had such a cozy relationship with AT&T? No one could see such
> a simple conflicts of interest?
>
Rigged game.
> One part of the company doing the investment banking while the other was
> doing an audit? Laughable.
>
Rigged game.
> I for one think Spitzer did a great service by bringing such wide spread
> corruption to the public's attention.
>
Instead of being demonized by the likes of Kudlow and Kramer,
he should he hailed as an American hero.
> --
> hsb
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> "Somehow I imagined this experience would be more rewarding" Calvin
Calvin's got something there....
-ja
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| Hansang Bae 2004-04-21, 1:25 am |
| > "Hansang Bae" <uonr@alp.ee.pbz> wrote in message
In article < 0N6dnfhDF5LddBjd4p2dnA@wideope
nwest.com>,
j_agosta@remove_wideopenwest.kom says...[color=blue]
> Instead of being demonized by the likes of Kudlow and Kramer,
> he should he hailed as an American hero.
As a registered Republican, I can say that I like Spitzer - a registered
Democrat. Sure, he has political agenda's and I'm sure he's looking for
higher office, but the bottom line is that he did something that SEC
refused to do for years.
As far as the other thread is concerned, no one has countered my (and
nrf's) point that IT industry was the *PRIMARY* reason why so many jobs
were lost. Yet no one in the industry bemoaned the lost of jobs.
The other thing about this issue is that people can vote with their
wallets. If the vast majority felt that Dell should bring all tech
support back home (and not just corporate and XPS support), then don't
buy Dells. They will get the message. But for the most part, I think
American's want the most competitive price which forces the company to
do whatever it can to increase the narrow profit margin.
nrf is also correct that there are jobs to be had at McD's etc. But I
don't consider those to be be "real" jobs in that you can't really live
off of those wages. I'm not for increasing min wage to $10/hr however.
I think these jobs are meant for kids and senior citizens who are not
the primary bread winners.
On second thought, I guess one person could live off of fast-food min
wages, but you certainly cannot support a family on such a salary.
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hsb
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| Ticking Timebomb 2004-04-21, 9:25 am |
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> Instead of being demonized by the likes of Kudlow and Kramer,
> he should he hailed as an American hero.
You may have K+C mixed up with a different show. Jim Cramer is a personal
friend and has the utmost repect for Spitzer. Jim Cramer is a huge supporter
or Spitzer
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