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| Does anyone know if you can take exams such a Cisco Qualified Specialist
after attaining a CCIE cert? All cert's besides the CCIE require a valid
CCNA. It would seem obvious that a CCIE would be prerequisite enough to take
any other exam.
Thanks in advance,
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| forbesl 2004-04-01, 6:41 pm |
| I guess my question is why you would want to take other exams if you have a CCIE. The CCIE speaks for itself, unless of course you just want to make yourself look important with a million titles after your name. The CCIE stands alone and is the top of the mountain. Why go back down to the foothills? | |
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| I have 6 years networking experience with a tier 1 global ISP, specializing
in WAN technologies. I plan on taking the 351-020 (CCIE service provider,
specializing in WAN Technologies). I wish to get this cert because I feel
confident I could attain this cert within 2-3 years. After this, I would
like to attain specialist in security, i.e., firewall, VPN and IDS.
You may ask, 'why not take the Security CCIE?', I don't feel I have enough
hands-on experience in passing the lab portion within the next couple of
years.
Just had a simple question, if nobody knows the answer, thanks for your
time.
"forbesl" <forbesl.142a8h@mail.examnotes.net> wrote in message
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> I guess my question is why you would want to take other exams if you
> have a CCIE. The CCIE speaks for itself, unless of course you just
> want to make yourself look important with a million titles after your
> name. The CCIE stands alone and is the top of the mountain. Why go
> back down to the foothills?
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> forbesl
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> I guess my question is why you would want to take other exams if you
> have a CCIE. The CCIE speaks for itself, unless of course you just
> want to make yourself look important with a million titles after your
> name. The CCIE stands alone and is the top of the mountain. Why go
> back down to the foothills?
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>
> forbesl
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Cisco partners have to take certain exams to maintain their specialization.
He might work for a partner. I have my CCNP for example, and work for a
Premier Partner. I have to take the lame wireless specialization exam every
two years to maintain our specialization. Learn before you speak.
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"ec" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:SB4bc.35485$wl1.31748@fed1read06...
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> "forbesl" <forbesl.142a8h@mail.examnotes.net> wrote in message
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> Cisco partners have to take certain exams to maintain their
specialization.
> He might work for a partner. I have my CCNP for example, and work for a
> Premier Partner. I have to take the lame wireless specialization exam
every
> two years to maintain our specialization. Learn before you speak.
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>
Believe me, I've learned too late. I let my CCNA expire almost a year in
pursiut for the Juniper certifications, but didn't follow through. I am very
aware of the re-cert requirements. After goint to the San Jose Cisco
Symposium two weeks ago, I became more interested than ever in the CCIE
program. I've learned the hard way and will continue my education in the
future for re-certification.
This is the first time I've posted to this group. Just thought it was a
group that would exchange knowledge in a helpful manner.
I will just email ccie@cisco.com for my answer.
Thanks for your time.
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| forbesl 2004-04-02, 10:18 am |
| quote:
Originally posted by ec
I have my CCNP for example, and work for a
Premier Partner. I have to take the lame wireless specialization exam every
two years to maintain our specialization. Learn before you speak.
CCNP is not in the same class as CCIE, my friend. If he had asked the question about taking specializations after getting a CCNP, CCSP, etc, I would not have "spoken before I learned". Why don't you READ before you speak? You missed the whole point of my reply to him. | |
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"Chad" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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> specialization.
> every
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> Believe me, I've learned too late. I let my CCNA expire almost a year in
> pursiut for the Juniper certifications, but didn't follow through. I am
very
> aware of the re-cert requirements. After goint to the San Jose Cisco
> Symposium two weeks ago, I became more interested than ever in the CCIE
> program. I've learned the hard way and will continue my education in the
> future for re-certification.
> This is the first time I've posted to this group. Just thought it was a
> group that would exchange knowledge in a helpful manner.
> I will just email ccie@cisco.com for my answer.
> Thanks for your time.
>
>
My post wasn't for you, it was for forbesl. :P
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"forbesl" <forbesl.143fwh@mail.examnotes.net> wrote in message
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> ec wrote:
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> CCNP is not in the same class as CCIE, my friend. If he had asked the
> question about taking specializations after getting a CCNP, CCSP, etc,
> I would not have "spoken before I learned". Why don't you READ before
> you speak? You missed the whole point of my reply to him.
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Really, you mean CCIE is higher than CCNP? WOW! Well guess what genius,
CCIE's HAVE to take the "lowly" specialization tests too to maintain company
certified partner status.
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> ec wrote:
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> CCNP is not in the same class as CCIE, my friend. If he had asked the
> question about taking specializations after getting a CCNP, CCSP, etc,
> I would not have "spoken before I learned". Why don't you READ before
> you speak? You missed the whole point of my reply to him.
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> forbesl
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You said:
"I guess my question is why you would want to take other exams if you
have a CCIE. The CCIE speaks for itself, unless of course you just
want to make yourself look important with a million titles after your
name. The CCIE stands alone and is the top of the mountain. Why go
back down to the foothills?"
Have a look at requirements for Gold Partner. 4 CCIE's won't cut it. Four
CCIE's who have passed CQS tests will. Good luck MAKING IT to the foothills.
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| forbesl 2004-04-03, 10:27 am |
| quote:
Really, you mean CCIE is higher than CCNP? WOW! Well guess what genius,
CCIE's HAVE to take the "lowly" specialization tests too to maintain company
certified partner status. [/B]
If you'd pull your head out of your XXX long enough, you'd realize that I wasn't even talking to you in the first place. The question was directed at Chad. He has already answered my question (thank you, Chad), but you are just an annoying pest. I really don't give a shit how many specialization tests you or anyone else have to take to maintain partner status. That's your problem, not everyone else's. Go bother someone else with your babble. | |
| Thomas Larus 2004-04-28, 11:32 am |
| If you work for a Cisco Silver or Gold Partner reseller, your employer might
well want you to get a Cisco Qualified Specialist cert so that your company
can get or retain a specialization.
After passing the CCIE, I went to work for a reseller where I then passed
the tests to fulfill the sales engineer and field engineer role for the
Routing and Switching Specialization (the relatively new BSCI and the
Routing and Switching Specialization test). All that was needed in addition
to my tests was for one sales person to pass one sales exam, and our company
would get a whole specialization (albeit one that carries low points).
The engineer tests did not get one a personal cert back when I passed them,
but now get one a personal cert, too, so I got the cert a year later. I do
not put that little cert in a signature, but there are resellers that could
really use it.
You might think that all this would involve no learning at all for someone
with a CCIE, and the BSCI should indeed be easy. But the study materials
for the Routing and Switching Specialization test are voluminous and broad.
There are many lectures and powerpoint presentations on topics ranging from
DSL to new high-end routers that many Cisco networking folks have never even
heard of, as well as low-end routers that are equally off the beaten path
for most Cisco certifications. There were even study materials on security,
so the scope of material to cover was pretty much unbounded. I learned a
lot from studying for that test, including a lesson that came in handy in my
job soon after I learned it.
I would say "It ought to be required for any any Sales Engineer" if I liked
such broad prescriptions about what should be required. I don't, so I
won't.
So there are good business reasons for someone with the CCIE to keep going
and get other certs that seem to rank lower than CCIE.
Best regards,
Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
Author of CCIE Warm-Up: Advice and Learning Labs
http://www.ipexpert.com/products_se....asp?sku=ip7777
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> I guess my question is why you would want to take other exams if you
> have a CCIE. The CCIE speaks for itself, unless of course you just
> want to make yourself look important with a million titles after your
> name. The CCIE stands alone and is the top of the mountain. Why go
> back down to the foothills?
>
>
> forbesl
> Sign up for free daily practice questions at: http://www.QoD.US
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| pocketpcnewbie 2004-04-29, 3:40 am |
| Huh??? didn't u learn all this during the CCIE test ???
as u're a CCIE in routing and switching ???
"Thomas Larus" <tplarus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If you work for a Cisco Silver or Gold Partner reseller, your employer
might
> well want you to get a Cisco Qualified Specialist cert so that your
company
> can get or retain a specialization.
>
> After passing the CCIE, I went to work for a reseller where I then passed
> the tests to fulfill the sales engineer and field engineer role for the
> Routing and Switching Specialization (the relatively new BSCI and the
> Routing and Switching Specialization test). All that was needed in
addition
> to my tests was for one sales person to pass one sales exam, and our
company
> would get a whole specialization (albeit one that carries low points).
>
> The engineer tests did not get one a personal cert back when I passed
them,
> but now get one a personal cert, too, so I got the cert a year later. I
do
> not put that little cert in a signature, but there are resellers that
could
> really use it.
>
> You might think that all this would involve no learning at all for someone
> with a CCIE, and the BSCI should indeed be easy. But the study materials
> for the Routing and Switching Specialization test are voluminous and
broad.
> There are many lectures and powerpoint presentations on topics ranging
from
> DSL to new high-end routers that many Cisco networking folks have never
even
> heard of, as well as low-end routers that are equally off the beaten path
> for most Cisco certifications. There were even study materials on
security,
> so the scope of material to cover was pretty much unbounded. I learned a
> lot from studying for that test, including a lesson that came in handy in
my
> job soon after I learned it.
>
> I would say "It ought to be required for any any Sales Engineer" if I
liked
> such broad prescriptions about what should be required. I don't, so I
> won't.
>
> So there are good business reasons for someone with the CCIE to keep going
> and get other certs that seem to rank lower than CCIE.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
> Author of CCIE Warm-Up: Advice and Learning Labs
> http://www.ipexpert.com/products_se....asp?sku=ip7777
>
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| Hansang Bae 2004-04-29, 3:40 am |
| In article <40906458$1_1@news.tm.net.my>, ksgoh@hotmail.com says...
> Huh??? didn't u learn all this during the CCIE test ???
> as u're a CCIE in routing and switching ???
Reread the post. Very few people work on GSR type routers let alone
DSLAMs etc.
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hsb
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