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James

2004-03-23, 2:25 pm

Howdy...

I had taken my CCNA twice and scored 844 each time (I know, what luck)
and am planning to go in again to nail it. I had some questions that
may save me a mark or two for the next time:

- In the sims, I corrected the RIP and OSPF problems given, did a sho
route to confirm, and copy run start to save. Is there anything else
I need to do? Should I (even if I know the solution) start
troubleshooting from layer 1 (sho controllers, sho int) up, or check
the config and routing tables on each node, or is just correcting the
config on the single device enough (missing routes appeared after
correcting the config, sho ro confirmed, nothing else *should* be
necessary, I thought)?
- Is partial credit given when multiple selections are required and
some are correct?
- What are common pitfalls people with experience run into that can be
avoided?
- I know the technology and theory, have a lab, worked with routers
for around 5+ years, are there any other tips?
- What is the best place for *real* cisco questions and answers or
help?

I am not looking to go on to CCNP, this is just a good benchmark for
me to have, so any help that you can offer would be appreciated.
Email me at j_mackenzie1@nospam.hotmail.com (remove nospam to email)
please.

Thank you for your time and help!
James...
another_idiot@yahoo.com

2004-03-23, 5:25 pm

the command is "show ip route" for a network configured with TCP/IP

do you know what questions you actually got wrong or are you
speculating it was the sim that killed you?



On 23 Mar 2004 10:04:38 -0800, j_mackenzie1@hotmail.com (James) wrote:

>Howdy...
>
>I had taken my CCNA twice and scored 844 each time (I know, what luck)
>and am planning to go in again to nail it. I had some questions that
>may save me a mark or two for the next time:
>
>- In the sims, I corrected the RIP and OSPF problems given, did a sho
>route to confirm, and copy run start to save. Is there anything else
>I need to do? Should I (even if I know the solution) start
>troubleshooting from layer 1 (sho controllers, sho int) up, or check
>the config and routing tables on each node, or is just correcting the
>config on the single device enough (missing routes appeared after
>correcting the config, sho ro confirmed, nothing else *should* be
>necessary, I thought)?
>- Is partial credit given when multiple selections are required and
>some are correct?
>- What are common pitfalls people with experience run into that can be
>avoided?
>- I know the technology and theory, have a lab, worked with routers
>for around 5+ years, are there any other tips?
>- What is the best place for *real* cisco questions and answers or
>help?
>
>I am not looking to go on to CCNP, this is just a good benchmark for
>me to have, so any help that you can offer would be appreciated.
>Email me at j_mackenzie1@nospam.hotmail.com (remove nospam to email)
>please.
>
>Thank you for your time and help!
>James...


smrkdown

2004-03-23, 5:44 pm

Just make sure you know what the question is asking you and make sure that your configurations meet the requirements and will provide the desired result. Also, make sure you confirm your work by testing communications between entities. Ping and Telnet are old and simple utilities but there are good reasons why they are still useful today. I'd also watch the typo's.
James

2004-03-24, 11:24 am

Planning and Design: 83%
Implementation and Operation 73%
Troubleshooting: 73%
Technology: 67%

These were my last breakdown of results. Of course, it's not very
clear what this means to me. I just want to make sure that you don't
lose marks on the sims if you correct the problem (eg. sho ip ro prior
to correction shows 2 routes, and after shows 5) but don't complete
the solution as far as Cisco is concerned: for example, you don't
telnet to that device from the first to confirm it, or lose marks by
not entering a copy run start. In short - if you fix a sim problem
and don't confirm it, do you lose marks?

My studying has been of old and new versions of the cisco press books,
including the flash cards, testing software, etc. I've been testing
around 90% or so on the software, so I assume I have to just keep
testing until I hit 100%.

James.....

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> that your configurations meet the requirements and will provide the
> desired result. Also, make sure you confirm your work by testing
> communications between entities. Ping and Telnet are old and simple
> utilities but there are good reasons why they are still useful today.
> I'd also watch the typo's.
>
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smrkdown

2004-03-24, 12:49 pm

You will still get the simulations right if you do not test with ping or telnet (but you should anyway) but you won't get them right if you don't save your work (copy run start). I think as far as the exam is concerned, you might as well not change the configuration if you don't plan on saving it.
Carl

2004-03-24, 8:24 pm

j_mackenzie1@hotmail.com (James) wrote in
news:4fe0074c.0403231004.2e5bf8c5@posting.google.com:

>
> - In the sims, I corrected the RIP and OSPF problems given, did a sho
> route to confirm, and copy run start to save. Is there anything else
> I need to do? Should I (even if I know the solution) start
> troubleshooting from layer 1 (sho controllers, sho int) up, or check
> the config and routing tables on each node, or is just correcting the
> config on the single device enough (missing routes appeared after
> correcting the config, sho ro confirmed, nothing else *should* be
> necessary, I thought)?


I had trouble with the sims when I took it ( the older test). Look at
your old scores, did you get credit for the sims?

> - Is partial credit given when multiple selections are required and
> some are correct?


No, the whole question is wrong.

> - What are common pitfalls people with experience run into that can be
> avoided?


Know the easy stuff, to the point that you can get 100% correct in those
areas, like

OSI Model
Subnetting
IP addressing & private addressing.
Bridging & Switching
Routing vs Routed protocols

It might sound a little dumb, but it would be a shame to fail and miss a
question on the "easy" part.

> - What is the best place for *real* cisco questions and answers or
> help?



Maybe try the www.celticrover.com website?>

Carl
James

2004-03-25, 10:25 am

Good question - to be honest, I have no idea - I am only speculating
that I lost marks there. I know the first time I didn't copy run
start, but the second time, I am sure I did.

Knowing that the questions are coming out of a pool of finite size
means I still won't know which ones I'll see, however, I do definately
know I will get some simulators. Therefore, by making sure I do those
right, I can maximize at least part of the marks overall - like
someone else mentioned, that I won't lose any marks by doing something
stupid.

"another_idiot@yahoo.com" <another_idiot@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:< b9a1609outdssnj0peubj08kac7ia8
eb0n@4ax.com>...
> the command is "show ip route" for a network configured with TCP/IP
>
> do you know what questions you actually got wrong or are you
> speculating it was the sim that killed you?

James

2004-03-25, 10:25 am

I wish that Cisco's breakdown was more definitive. It would be nice
to know if I scored well on the sims and not on the questions. I
included my marks in another message in this thread: they've taken it
down to 4 scores (percent) with no further idea if you got a question
right or wrong to actually improve yourself effectively. Even in
grade school you'd get your marked test back - at least you would know
specifically where to improve rather than a generic topic like
"technology".

I would love to try the Celtic Rover site, but he's not accepting any
new registrations, so I sent an email to the contact I found (whois)
saying I'd be willing to make a donation if I could see for what I was
donating.

A little frustrated, frazzled, and nervous, but all I can do is keep
trying my best, right?

Carl <spell.removenospam@netzero.net> wrote in message news:<Xns94B6A4DC2A370Spell@68.6.19.6>...
> j_mackenzie1@hotmail.com (James) wrote in
> news:4fe0074c.0403231004.2e5bf8c5@posting.google.com:
>
>
> I had trouble with the sims when I took it ( the older test). Look at
> your old scores, did you get credit for the sims?
>
>
> No, the whole question is wrong.
>
>
> Know the easy stuff, to the point that you can get 100% correct in those
> areas, like
>
> OSI Model
> Subnetting
> IP addressing & private addressing.
> Bridging & Switching
> Routing vs Routed protocols
>
> It might sound a little dumb, but it would be a shame to fail and miss a
> question on the "easy" part.
>
>
>
> Maybe try the www.celticrover.com website?>
>
> Carl

Japes

2004-03-26, 6:24 am

Not complete but the 4 area's do tie in with the details on the Cisco site.


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"James" <j_mackenzie1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fe0074c.0403250619.5c1bf695@posting.google.com...
> I wish that Cisco's breakdown was more definitive. It would be nice
> to know if I scored well on the sims and not on the questions. I
> included my marks in another message in this thread: they've taken it
> down to 4 scores (percent) with no further idea if you got a question
> right or wrong to actually improve yourself effectively. Even in
> grade school you'd get your marked test back - at least you would know
> specifically where to improve rather than a generic topic like
> "technology".
>
> I would love to try the Celtic Rover site, but he's not accepting any
> new registrations, so I sent an email to the contact I found (whois)
> saying I'd be willing to make a donation if I could see for what I was
> donating.
>
> A little frustrated, frazzled, and nervous, but all I can do is keep
> trying my best, right?
>
> Carl <spell.removenospam@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:<Xns94B6A4DC2A370Spell@68.6.19.6>...[color=blue]

Japes

2004-03-26, 6:24 am

Sorry meant to add
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10...ms/640-801.html

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