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640-801 CCNA FRUSTRATION - SEEKING ADVICE

Rich NYC

2004-02-14, 7:24 pm

I just took the CCNA exam and failed again. boo hoo. Anyway I have been
hacking at the materials for this for months but when it comes time to take
the test I get very nervous. I know I did well but still got a 715. I know
I choked on the troubleshooting simulations. It's kind of hard to do with
the clock ticking. I mean I got my facts straight and my knowledge of
subneting, VLSM, routing protocols, the whole thing but those
troubleshoots, two of them, I just had to skip after a few minutes.

Any advice on this area. Anyone have experience and can clue me in on
how to approach these items. They seem to give a hint at either clocking or
routes but it just might me choking and that damn clock ticking away.

Also, does anyone else share in my anger that there is no feed back on
which questions were answered correctly or not. It's like hey if there's a
bug in the test it's my tough luck. That'll be $125 next time.

Like the subject line says. FRUSTRATION.

Thanks for sharing in my rant. Please share your thoughts.

John Wheeler

2004-02-14, 8:24 pm

First of all, NEVER skip questions. I have just started looking at the
materials to re-certify after having not looked at a router since I
originally certified, so I'm not sure what the new test is going to look
like. Even if you have to take a wild guess on them, take your best guess.
It's better to try and fail that to know for sure that you aren't going to
get it. As far as the test anxiety goes, there are a few guidelines you can
always follow. Things like read the question and answerd twice before you
answer. Take your time. Read all of the answer choices... on multiple
choice, you can usually eliminate 2 answers immediately. Then you have a
50/50 chance. Eat a good breakfast so that you have plenty of energy...
things like that. Most importantly, make sure you know the material going
in, and good luck.

"Rich NYC" <haranr@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:SgyXb.9155$cE3.10662521@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> I just took the CCNA exam and failed again. boo hoo. Anyway I have been
> hacking at the materials for this for months but when it comes time to
take
> the test I get very nervous. I know I did well but still got a 715. I
know
> I choked on the troubleshooting simulations. It's kind of hard to do with
> the clock ticking. I mean I got my facts straight and my knowledge of
> subneting, VLSM, routing protocols, the whole thing but those
> troubleshoots, two of them, I just had to skip after a few minutes.
>
> Any advice on this area. Anyone have experience and can clue me in on
> how to approach these items. They seem to give a hint at either clocking
or
> routes but it just might me choking and that damn clock ticking away.
>
> Also, does anyone else share in my anger that there is no feed back
on
> which questions were answered correctly or not. It's like hey if there's
a
> bug in the test it's my tough luck. That'll be $125 next time.
>
> Like the subject line says. FRUSTRATION.
>
> Thanks for sharing in my rant. Please share your thoughts.
>
>
>

Kristopher Francisco

2004-02-15, 11:25 am

When I took the 640-607 test, www.celticrover.com helped me out
tremendously. I used that and R1R2.com (free telnet access to real/sim
router). If you goto Celtic Rover and click on the section labeled Collision
Domain; you'll probably get a pretty good review of all the material you
need to know. I don't know how much he's covered so far on the 640-801
(which he's probably covered alot), but he definitely helped me out on my
sim questions.

BTW....once ure in the site...on the side there's a section titled "CCNA
Labs" and "Mini-Labs". Instead of wasting another $100, assess all your week
areas and show Cisco what ya got.

Also, if you don't have access to a router, www.R1R2.com has a really good
free router/router sim telnet access thing goin' on. You might wanna' give
it a try.

"John Wheeler" <kd5bcu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qLyXb.51$Jc7.10@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> First of all, NEVER skip questions. I have just started looking at the
> materials to re-certify after having not looked at a router since I
> originally certified, so I'm not sure what the new test is going to look
> like. Even if you have to take a wild guess on them, take your best
guess.
> It's better to try and fail that to know for sure that you aren't going to
> get it. As far as the test anxiety goes, there are a few guidelines you
can
> always follow. Things like read the question and answerd twice before you
> answer. Take your time. Read all of the answer choices... on multiple
> choice, you can usually eliminate 2 answers immediately. Then you have a
> 50/50 chance. Eat a good breakfast so that you have plenty of energy...
> things like that. Most importantly, make sure you know the material going
> in, and good luck.
>
>
> "Rich NYC" <haranr@optonline.com> wrote in message
> news:SgyXb.9155$cE3.10662521@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
been[color=blue]
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Rich NYC

2004-02-15, 7:25 pm

Thanks for the advice folks. I'm with you on the any answer is better then
no answer but the only problem is/was that they were labs and it wasn't
picking or writing an answer. It was solving a problem, ie connectivity.
So all I can say is I better practice troubleshooting for my nesxt attempt.
Funny thing is I worked in a noc for almost a decade and can troubleshoot
pretty well. It's trying to do it in the confines of a 90 minute test that
is difficult. I know the material but need to practice the troubleshooting.
I am looking at cisco documentation now. One way or another I'm getting
this cert and moving on. On another point I am gaining a serious respect
for the cert as well. Thanks again and good luck in your endeavers.

"Kristopher Francisco" <kfrancisco@aol.com> wrote in message
news:VyMXb.35570$1O.33916@fed1read05...
> When I took the 640-607 test, www.celticrover.com helped me out
> tremendously. I used that and R1R2.com (free telnet access to real/sim
> router). If you goto Celtic Rover and click on the section labeled
Collision
> Domain; you'll probably get a pretty good review of all the material you
> need to know. I don't know how much he's covered so far on the 640-801
> (which he's probably covered alot), but he definitely helped me out on my
> sim questions.
>
> BTW....once ure in the site...on the side there's a section titled "CCNA
> Labs" and "Mini-Labs". Instead of wasting another $100, assess all your
week
> areas and show Cisco what ya got.
>
> Also, if you don't have access to a router, www.R1R2.com has a really good
> free router/router sim telnet access thing goin' on. You might wanna' give
> it a try.
>
> "John Wheeler" <kd5bcu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:qLyXb.51$Jc7.10@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
> guess.
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Chris Freas

2004-02-21, 10:24 am

"Rich NYC" <haranr@optonline.com> wrote in
news:lZSXb.10687$cE3.17384013@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
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> Thanks for the advice folks. I'm with you on the any answer is better
> then no answer but the only problem is/was that they were labs and it
> wasn't picking or writing an answer. It was solving a problem, ie
> connectivity. So all I can say is I better practice troubleshooting
> for my nesxt attempt. Funny thing is I worked in a noc for almost a
> decade and can troubleshoot pretty well. It's trying to do it in the
> confines of a 90 minute test that is difficult. I know the material
> but need to practice the troubleshooting. I am looking at cisco
> documentation now. One way or another I'm getting this cert and
> moving on. On another point I am gaining a serious respect for the
> cert as well. Thanks again and good luck in your endeavers.
>
>
> "Kristopher Francisco" <kfrancisco@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:VyMXb.35570$1O.33916@fed1read05...
> Collision
> week
> to
> you
> a
> going
> I
> in
> back
I just took this test the other day to keep my cert from expiring. Please
dont take this the wrong way but if you had trouble with the sims, you
need to seriously reconsider your skills. Unless the sims I got were and
exception to the rule, they were exceedingly easy, required no skills
beyond basic router configuration and knowledge of BASIC routing
principles. My suggestion if you're having trouble here would be to get
the CCNA practical skills guide and a few (they can be low end like 2501)
routers and work on your practical skills. Time didn't seem to be much of
an issue either as the Sims took less than 3 minutes each.

smrkdown

2004-02-21, 8:31 pm

What type of material do the sims cover? I'm assuming access lists, RIP configuration...

patch

2004-02-25, 6:25 am

the trouble shooting tips can make up to 30% of your overall mark so you
really need to get both spot on, after that you can get large amounts wrong
and still pass. but the best solution is to really hammer doing router sims
and elabs.
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> What type of material do the sims cover? I'm assuming access lists, RIP
> configuration...
>
>
> smrkdown
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rl2004

2004-02-27, 4:25 am

Hey Rich

why don't you try buying a some routers if you know that the handson stuff
is giving you problems. It would probably be a good investment. the
theoretical stuff you have in your head but you mis the hands-on!

Good luck!

RL
"Rich NYC" <haranr@optonline.com> wrote in message
news:SgyXb.9155$cE3.10662521@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
> I just took the CCNA exam and failed again. boo hoo. Anyway I have been
> hacking at the materials for this for months but when it comes time to
take
> the test I get very nervous. I know I did well but still got a 715. I
know
> I choked on the troubleshooting simulations. It's kind of hard to do with
> the clock ticking. I mean I got my facts straight and my knowledge of
> subneting, VLSM, routing protocols, the whole thing but those
> troubleshoots, two of them, I just had to skip after a few minutes.
>
> Any advice on this area. Anyone have experience and can clue me in on
> how to approach these items. They seem to give a hint at either clocking
or
> routes but it just might me choking and that damn clock ticking away.
>
> Also, does anyone else share in my anger that there is no feed back
on
> which questions were answered correctly or not. It's like hey if there's
a
> bug in the test it's my tough luck. That'll be $125 next time.
>
> Like the subject line says. FRUSTRATION.
>
> Thanks for sharing in my rant. Please share your thoughts.
>
>
>

ariel

2004-03-22, 3:25 pm

hi,
i took the test 3 weeks ago and passed, the test was very very hard as
you know. what help me is boson simulations practice and hundrand of
testking questions.
good luck
R.E.L
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:35:31 -0600, Chris Freas <anon@byteme.com>
wrote:

>"Rich NYC" <haranr@optonline.com> wrote in
>news:lZSXb.10687$cE3.17384013@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net:
>
>I just took this test the other day to keep my cert from expiring. Please
>dont take this the wrong way but if you had trouble with the sims, you
>need to seriously reconsider your skills. Unless the sims I got were and
>exception to the rule, they were exceedingly easy, required no skills
>beyond basic router configuration and knowledge of BASIC routing
>principles. My suggestion if you're having trouble here would be to get
>the CCNA practical skills guide and a few (they can be low end like 2501)
>routers and work on your practical skills. Time didn't seem to be much of
>an issue either as the Sims took less than 3 minutes each.

Charles Stanley

2004-03-25, 10:25 am

On 15 Feb 2004, "Kristopher Francisco" <kfrancisco@aol.com> wrote in
news:VyMXb.35570$1O.33916@fed1read05:

> When I took the 640-607 test, www.celticrover.com helped me out
> tremendously. I used that and R1R2.com (free telnet access to real/sim
> router). If you goto Celtic Rover and click on the section labeled
> Collision Domain; you'll probably get a pretty good review of all the
> material you need to know. I don't know how much he's covered so far
> on the 640-801 (which he's probably covered alot), but he definitely
> helped me out on my sim questions.

Unfortunately, access to Celtic Rover's Collision Domain requires a login,
but the site is no longer accepting new registrations...

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