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n00b

2003-09-26, 6:24 pm

Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies of
their books illegally? This guy Marc Murray is selling illegally copied
material. I did a google groups search on him and he seems to be held in
low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many times
its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...1&category=3517



AMR

2003-09-27, 2:25 pm

How do you know and why do you care?

"n00b" <n00b@n00b.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies of
> their books illegally? This guy Marc Murray is selling illegally copied
> material. I did a google groups search on him and he seems to be held in
> low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many

times
> its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...1&category=3517
>
>
>



n00b

2003-09-27, 3:24 pm

I know because he's sold at least a half dozen copies. How many people are
given that many copies when they go to a class? I care because I have a
problem with people stealing and trying to make money off of it. If you see
someone trying to steal your neighbors car do you just ignore it because
it's not your car and you don't care? Thats not a very good attitude. Some
day that some guy might come to steal from you. As network engineers and
especially security engineers we should have some sense of integrity.



"AMR" <routerpimp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> How do you know and why do you care?
>
> "n00b" <n00b@n00b.com> wrote in message
> news:10f8d9edd6d660786d201db37
d5885b2@news.teranews.com...
> > Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies of
> > their books illegally? This guy Marc Murray is selling illegally copied
> > material. I did a google groups search on him and he seems to be held

in
> > low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many

> times
> > its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.
> >
> >

>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...1&category=3517
> >
> >
> >

>
>



n00b

2003-09-27, 3:24 pm

I just noticed something interesting. Both you and Marc are from Dallas.
How coincidental. Perhaps not. You are Marc using an alias I bet.



"AMR" <routerpimp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%ckdb.444544$Oz4.251643@rwcrnsc54...
> How do you know and why do you care?
>
> "n00b" <n00b@n00b.com> wrote in message
> news:10f8d9edd6d660786d201db37
d5885b2@news.teranews.com...
> > Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies of
> > their books illegally? This guy Marc Murray is selling illegally copied
> > material. I did a google groups search on him and he seems to be held

in
> > low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many

> times
> > its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.
> >
> >

>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...1&category=3517
> >
> >
> >

>
>



steve harris

2003-09-27, 3:25 pm

n00b wrote:

> Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies of
> their books illegally? This guy Marc Murray is selling illegally copied
> material. I did a google groups search on him and he seems to be held in
> low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many times
> its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...1&category=3517
>
>
>


I dont have a legitimate one to look at but looking at the ebay picture,
the front of the book is a sheet of paper stuck under the vinyl.

Have you contacted Cisco?

Ramsey

2003-09-27, 4:25 pm

Hold on there, cowboy. You have absolutely no proof this guy is selling
photocopies. Did you e-mail him and ask if the items are original and
genuine? Maybe he purchased extra kits from a training center or
instructor. Maybe some students canceled their reservations at the last
minute. Who knows? Certainly not you. I'd think twice before going off
half-cocked and making false accusations. Someone might slap you with a
slander or defamation lawsuit.

"n00b" <n00b@n00b.com> wrote in message
news:c09415524e94629e25e7ff65b
e37e9a4@news.teranews.com...
> I know because he's sold at least a half dozen copies. How many people

are
> given that many copies when they go to a class? I care because I have a
> problem with people stealing and trying to make money off of it. If you

see
> someone trying to steal your neighbors car do you just ignore it because
> it's not your car and you don't care? Thats not a very good attitude.

Some
> day that some guy might come to steal from you. As network engineers and
> especially security engineers we should have some sense of integrity.
>
>
>
> "AMR" <routerpimp@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%ckdb.444544$Oz4.251643@rwcrnsc54...
> > How do you know and why do you care?
> >
> > "n00b" <n00b@n00b.com> wrote in message
> > news:10f8d9edd6d660786d201db37
d5885b2@news.teranews.com...
> > > Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies

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> > > low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many

> > times
> > > its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.
> > >
> > >

> >

>

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DiscoMachineGun

2003-09-27, 4:25 pm

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:37:35 +0000, n00b wrote:

> I just noticed something interesting. Both you and Marc are from Dallas.
> How coincidental. Perhaps not. You are Marc using an alias I bet.
>


hehe. there might be a slight chance of more than 1 Marc in Dallas.


n00b

2003-09-27, 4:25 pm

That's what I'm trying to find out. Who is the appropriate contact? Based
on this guy's track record I'm sure they're copies. Every class I've ever
gone to I was given a color cover and a spiral bound book. I've never been
given a 3-ring binder. Most people prefer not to destroy their original
manual just to make copies. It's a slight deterrent.


"steve harris" <steveharris1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bl4nja$8292o$1@ID-182617.news.uni-berlin.de...
> n00b wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies of
> > their books illegally? This guy Marc Murray is selling illegally copied
> > material. I did a google groups search on him and he seems to be held

in
> > low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many

times

> > its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.
> >
> >

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...1&category=3517
> >
> >
> >

>
> I dont have a legitimate one to look at but looking at the ebay picture,
> the front of the book is a sheet of paper stuck under the vinyl.
>
> Have you contacted Cisco?
>



steve harris

2003-09-27, 4:25 pm

n00b wrote:
> That's what I'm trying to find out. Who is the appropriate contact? Based
> on this guy's track record I'm sure they're copies. Every class I've ever
> gone to I was given a color cover and a spiral bound book. I've never been
> given a 3-ring binder. Most people prefer not to destroy their original
> manual just to make copies. It's a slight deterrent.
>


I'm sure the "contacts and feedback" link at the top of cisco would
work. I don't think it's worth the effort though. Buyer beware....

Scooby

2003-09-27, 6:25 pm

You can start with your Cisco sales rep. If you don't have one, call their
sales line and ask for one. You should get a call pretty quick and I'm sure
they'd be able to find out where to report it.



"n00b" <n00b@n00b.com> wrote in message
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5d68e3f@news.teranews.com...
> That's what I'm trying to find out. Who is the appropriate contact?

Based
> on this guy's track record I'm sure they're copies. Every class I've ever
> gone to I was given a color cover and a spiral bound book. I've never

been
> given a 3-ring binder. Most people prefer not to destroy their original
> manual just to make copies. It's a slight deterrent.
>
>
> "steve harris" <steveharris1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bl4nja$8292o$1@ID-182617.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > n00b wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know a contact at Cisco that handles people making copies

of[co
lor=darkred]
> > > their books illegally? This guy Marc Murray is selling illegally
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copied
> > > material. I did a google groups search on him and he seems to be held

> in

> > > low regard. Here is the ebay listing. Since he sold the book so many

> times
> > > its obvious he's not selling his own personal copy.
> > >
> > >

>

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2754932831&category=3517[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > I dont have a legitimate one to look at but looking at the ebay picture,
> > the front of the book is a sheet of paper stuck under the vinyl.
> >
> > Have you contacted Cisco?
> >

>
>[/color]


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