alt.certification.cisco - Net + vs. CCNA

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Net + vs. CCNA

David Moberly

2003-08-20, 11:27 pm

What's the difference between the Net+ and CCNA certifications? Which
one is more likely to get me a good job (I'm already A+.)? What information
could I carry from one certification to the next? I know that CCNA focuses
a lot on Cisco routers, so that is different, but what else? I've also
heard that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well. Please reply.
David

Robert Chen

2003-08-21, 12:32 pm

If I'm correct, Net+ will only give you real general networking. CCNA goes
in to it more deeply. It will teach you how to subnet, define Static, RIP,
IGRP, EIGRP. It will also teach you the 7 layer of the OSI model. IGRP and
EIGRP are Cisco's routing protocol but Static, RIP, OSPF, BGP, IS-IS is used
by all the vendors. You say that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well, but
in my option it does. I will not cover stuff like creating a web page using
various applications, setting up a database to use with the web base
application, or setting up E-mails using say MS Exchange. But it does give
you the basic idea of how the internet works. Alot of people don't
understand what it takes to make the internet work. If you want to become a
network person, and not a network administrator (which there is a
difference), then you need to go to the next level which is CCNP. Once you
get your CCNA then you might realize what it takes to design/build/maintain
a network. It takes alot of knowledge. Network is always the first things
to be blamed when things go wrong. It is also a hard field to get into
right now. With all the cutbacks and stuff. I wish you luck if you decide
to pursue this path.

"David Moberly" <wrad@cox.net> wrote in message
news:aUW0b.46063$Ij4.3425@news2.central.cox.net...
> What's the difference between the Net+ and CCNA certifications? Which
> one is more likely to get me a good job (I'm already A+.)? What
information
> could I carry from one certification to the next? I know that CCNA
focuses
> a lot on Cisco routers, so that is different, but what else? I've also
> heard that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well. Please reply.
> David
>
>

David Moberly

2003-08-21, 8:25 pm

I know that Net+ teaches you subnet, RIP, and the 7 layers. I also know
that it doesn't cover web page creation (as you said). So we've discovered
something. Has anyone here taken both?

sscott

2003-08-21, 9:25 pm

"David Moberly" <wrad@cox.net> wrote in message =
news:UUc1b.50297$Ij4.34254@news2.central.cox.net...
> I know that Net+ teaches you subnet, RIP, and the 7 layers. I also =
know
> that it doesn't cover web page creation (as you said). So we've =
discovered
> something. Has anyone here taken both?

Well, I'm studying both. I'm currently in a CCNA training class and =
will sit for the 604-607 exam in early Sept (yes, I know it expires =
Sept. 30).

I've also been doing a self-study for the CompTIA Network+ and will =
likely take that exam AFTER the CCNA test. I will likely do another =
self study and pick up the A+ shortly after these two. I know it sounds =
a little backwards but...

Why? Well, I like having the generic CompTIA knowlege plus you can =
substitute the A+ and Network+ for one elective on the MCSE tests.

I'm one of those who has been doing network admin and management for =
about a dozen years but never bothered to get any certs. Figured nearly =
20 years of hardware, network and some web applications development =
experience, an undergradutate degree plus management/supervisory track =
record (incl. MBA degree) would suffice. Uh-uh. Lots of employers =
today are also demanding the certs.

Steve
change the "ii" to the numeral "2" in address to reply

jpinoniemi

2003-08-21, 9:25 pm

I passed the N+ in July and am currently studying the new CiscoPress
curriculum for the 640-811 and must say it goes much more in depth. The CCNA
goes much deeper into networking.

You should have no problem passing the N+ after the CCNA.

"David Moberly" <wrad@cox.net> wrote in message
news:aUW0b.46063$Ij4.3425@news2.central.cox.net...
> What's the difference between the Net+ and CCNA certifications? Which
> one is more likely to get me a good job (I'm already A+.)? What
information
> could I carry from one certification to the next? I know that CCNA
focuses
> a lot on Cisco routers, so that is different, but what else? I've also
> heard that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well. Please reply.
> David
>
>

Law Barstow

2003-08-21, 10:26 pm

"David Moberly" <wrad@cox.net> wrote in message
news:aUW0b.46063$Ij4.3425@news2.central.cox.net...
> What's the difference between the Net+ and CCNA certifications? Which
> one is more likely to get me a good job (I'm already A+.)? What
information
> could I carry from one certification to the next? I know that CCNA
focuses
> a lot on Cisco routers, so that is different, but what else? I've also
> heard that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well. Please reply.
> David
>
>

I have both the CCNA and Net+, so here's my take:

The CCNA goes into much, much more detail than Net+. The Net + measured
more general concepts, whereas CCNA goes into a lot of detail.

The CCNA is also much more difficult thatn Net +.

Hope this helps,
Law Barstow

FireSword

2003-08-26, 10:25 pm

I strongly recommend CCNA, after that you can get Net+ even without
studying.
However if you are interested in becoming a Network Administrator then go
for Net+, then for MCSA and MCSE. With both A+ and Net+ you eliminate one of
the exams for MCSA.

To further explain the difference between CCNA and Net+:
After my CCNA I handed out 2 papers filled with 1's and 0's(subnetting
calculations). for my Net+ I didn't use any paper.

"David Moberly" <wrad@cox.net> wrote in message
news:aUW0b.46063$Ij4.3425@news2.central.cox.net...
> What's the difference between the Net+ and CCNA certifications? Which
> one is more likely to get me a good job (I'm already A+.)? What
information
> could I carry from one certification to the next? I know that CCNA
focuses
> a lot on Cisco routers, so that is different, but what else? I've also
> heard that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well. Please reply.
> David
>
>

Steffi

2003-08-27, 2:25 am

I agree with FireSword, I will also recommend CCNA.

Steffi S.

"FireSword" <joxel-spamguard-@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<lMT2b.1291$xD2.367@fe01.atl2.webusenet.com>...
> I strongly recommend CCNA, after that you can get Net+ even without
> studying.
> However if you are interested in becoming a Network Administrator then go
> for Net+, then for MCSA and MCSE. With both A+ and Net+ you eliminate one of
> the exams for MCSA.
>
> To further explain the difference between CCNA and Net+:
> After my CCNA I handed out 2 papers filled with 1's and 0's(subnetting
> calculations). for my Net+ I didn't use any paper.
>
> "David Moberly" <wrad@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:aUW0b.46063$Ij4.3425@news2.central.cox.net...
> > What's the difference between the Net+ and CCNA certifications? Which
> > one is more likely to get me a good job (I'm already A+.)? What
> information
> > could I carry from one certification to the next? I know that CCNA
> focuses
> > a lot on Cisco routers, so that is different, but what else? I've also
> > heard that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well. Please reply.
> > David
> >
> >

André Franke

2003-08-27, 6:25 am

"David Moberly" <wrad@cox.net> wrote:

> What's the difference between the Net+ and CCNA certifications? Which
>one is more likely to get me a good job (I'm already A+.)? What information
>could I carry from one certification to the next? I know that CCNA focuses
>a lot on Cisco routers, so that is different, but what else? I've also
>heard that CCNA doesn't cover internet very well. Please reply.
>David
>

To find out, wich cert will payout more, just read around here in
alt.certification.cisco and then in alt.certification.network-plus.
You will soon notice the difference.
But keep in mind what Firesword wrote about other certs and the goal
to become a network administrator. I'd suggest becoming CCNA, doing
the N+ right afterwards and the go for MCSA and MCSE. The MCP exams
for Win2k Pro and Server are not too hard and you will be "running"
your way.

regards
André

Dustin

2003-08-27, 3:24 pm

Just do the Network+ after the CCNA, you will not need to study any
more. I did the Network+ plus in Aug 2001, the beta for the current
version. The way I studied was using Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide
from Sybex and the Domains listed on CompTIAs website for the
Network+... I only needed to study the first 4 chapters of the book,
and that was overkill. I just started the Cisco Networking Academy on
Monday, and I have to say that the first semester is pretty darn easy.
I am waiting for the 3rd and 4th semesters... Hopefully it will be
in depth enough, and I can get enough lab time to knock out the CCNP
in semester 2, and use 3 and 4 to study for the CCSP and CCIE:Security
(I have my own agenda :P).

Dustin,
Network+, MCSA/MCSE Windows 2000

André Franke

2003-08-27, 3:24 pm

dustin_dortch@hotmail.com (Dustin) wrote:

>Just do the Network+ after the CCNA, you will not need to study any
>more. I did the Network+ plus in Aug 2001, the beta for the current
>version. The way I studied was using Todd Lammle's CCNA Study Guide
>from Sybex and the Domains listed on CompTIAs website for the
>Network+... I only needed to study the first 4 chapters of the book,
>and that was overkill. I just started the Cisco Networking Academy on
>Monday, and I have to say that the first semester is pretty darn easy.
> I am waiting for the 3rd and 4th semesters... Hopefully it will be
>in depth enough, and I can get enough lab time to knock out the CCNP
>in semester 2, and use 3 and 4 to study for the CCSP and CCIE:Security
>(I have my own agenda :P).
>
>Dustin,
>Network+, MCSA/MCSE Windows 2000

Good luck to you, Dustin.
regards
André
CCNA, MCPWin2kpro, MCPWin2kserv

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