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| Hi All-
About 6 months ago my company sent me to one of those week long cram
session boot camps for ccna. I should mention I have extensive
knowledge in networking, not a newbie for sure. well, we were given
two large binder books that i believe were put out by cisco press,
cannot remember the name. We crammed all week. I really thought I
knew the stuff, the sims were cake only because I work with routers
and switches everyday at my present job. We have several cat2900's,
cat4000's and a cat6513 with msfc2 that I have setup several vlans
with. I work with the router aspect everyday as well as the switch
commands....i almost think its hurting me to know too much at work,
b/c of the ccna being 1900's. well, at the boot camp, took the test,
failed by under 10 pts. could not believe it! so anyways, i keep
studying the material that i was given, take the test again two months
later, fail again by under 10 points. Obviously there is something i
am just not getting. My question is....should I stick with the
material that i was given?? It was supposedly almost the best, it was
used to teach the ICND course a few times i believe. I have been
looking around and there are so many books and router sims that I am
going mad trying to figure out what to do! I cant stand the
heartbreak of failing another time! or the break to my wallet!! ouch!
sooo....any suggestions all of you cisco guru's out there.
TIA!!
M
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| JasonW 2003-04-29, 5:24 pm |
| Were you told what areas you were weak in? It doesn't do a lot of good to
study things you are fluent in, so find out the areas that you suspect you
are weak in and learn what Cisco's approach is to those subjects. From your
description, it isn't the sims that you need to study.
I thought I was pretty well prepared since I'm in semester 4 of the Academy
and all A's so far, but then I took the practice exam. I have a lot to study
and understand before I go for the exam.
-JasonW
"Mandy" <scbugler_20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:26c729db.0304291245.20d9c9f4@posting.google.com...
> Hi All-
>
> About 6 months ago my company sent me to one of those week long cram
> session boot camps for ccna. I should mention I have extensive
> knowledge in networking, not a newbie for sure. well, we were given
> two large binder books that i believe were put out by cisco press,
> cannot remember the name. We crammed all week. I really thought I
> knew the stuff, the sims were cake only because I work with routers
> and switches everyday at my present job. We have several cat2900's,
> cat4000's and a cat6513 with msfc2 that I have setup several vlans
> with. I work with the router aspect everyday as well as the switch
> commands....i almost think its hurting me to know too much at work,
> b/c of the ccna being 1900's. well, at the boot camp, took the test,
> failed by under 10 pts. could not believe it! so anyways, i keep
> studying the material that i was given, take the test again two months
> later, fail again by under 10 points. Obviously there is something i
> am just not getting. My question is....should I stick with the
> material that i was given?? It was supposedly almost the best, it was
> used to teach the ICND course a few times i believe. I have been
> looking around and there are so many books and router sims that I am
> going mad trying to figure out what to do! I cant stand the
> heartbreak of failing another time! or the break to my wallet!! ouch!
> sooo....any suggestions all of you cisco guru's out there.
>
> TIA!!
> M
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| A Gilles 2003-04-29, 5:24 pm |
| I'm doing the Academy course, and a lot of the test questions seem to be
about what Cisco says is right, not what really is right. So a lot of the
answers are stripped right from the textbooks. I wouldn't be suprised if the
actual CCNA exam was the same. I've heard of other people with extensive,
real-world experience having the same problems with the MS certs and such,
too. It's pretty much their way or the highway...the 'soft', more subjective
topics, such as network administration, are especially like this.
In the class we're using:
Cisco Networking Academy Program: First-Year Companion Guide ISBN 1587130254
Cisco Networking Academy Program: Second-Year Companion Guide ISBN
1587130297
Both by Cisco press, and I also have:
Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 Certification Guide ISBN 1587200554
This one's a fatty, but it's written in a more accessible way, with less
typos-
"Mandy" <scbugler_20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:26c729db.0304291245.20d9c9f4@posting.google.com...
> Hi All-
>
> About 6 months ago my company sent me to one of those week long cram
> session boot camps for ccna. I should mention I have extensive
> knowledge in networking, not a newbie for sure. well, we were given
> two large binder books that i believe were put out by cisco press,
> cannot remember the name. We crammed all week. I really thought I
> knew the stuff, the sims were cake only because I work with routers
> and switches everyday at my present job. We have several cat2900's,
> cat4000's and a cat6513 with msfc2 that I have setup several vlans
> with. I work with the router aspect everyday as well as the switch
> commands....i almost think its hurting me to know too much at work,
> b/c of the ccna being 1900's. well, at the boot camp, took the test,
> failed by under 10 pts. could not believe it! so anyways, i keep
> studying the material that i was given, take the test again two months
> later, fail again by under 10 points. Obviously there is something i
> am just not getting. My question is....should I stick with the
> material that i was given?? It was supposedly almost the best, it was
> used to teach the ICND course a few times i believe. I have been
> looking around and there are so many books and router sims that I am
> going mad trying to figure out what to do! I cant stand the
> heartbreak of failing another time! or the break to my wallet!! ouch!
> sooo....any suggestions all of you cisco guru's out there.
>
> TIA!!
> M
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| Maybe using the Transcender for CCNA will help as that can give you exactly
the answer which area(s) you are weak in.
"JasonW" <no@no.com> wrote in message
news:z7Cra.135048$gK.236635@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...
> Were you told what areas you were weak in? It doesn't do a lot of good to
> study things you are fluent in, so find out the areas that you suspect you
> are weak in and learn what Cisco's approach is to those subjects. From
your
> description, it isn't the sims that you need to study.
>
> I thought I was pretty well prepared since I'm in semester 4 of the
Academy
> and all A's so far, but then I took the practice exam. I have a lot to
study
> and understand before I go for the exam.
>
> -JasonW
>
>
> "Mandy" <scbugler_20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:26c729db.0304291245.20d9c9f4@posting.google.com...
> > Hi All-
> >
> > About 6 months ago my company sent me to one of those week long cram
> > session boot camps for ccna. I should mention I have extensive
> > knowledge in networking, not a newbie for sure. well, we were given
> > two large binder books that i believe were put out by cisco press,
> > cannot remember the name. We crammed all week. I really thought I
> > knew the stuff, the sims were cake only because I work with routers
> > and switches everyday at my present job. We have several cat2900's,
> > cat4000's and a cat6513 with msfc2 that I have setup several vlans
> > with. I work with the router aspect everyday as well as the switch
> > commands....i almost think its hurting me to know too much at work,
> > b/c of the ccna being 1900's. well, at the boot camp, took the test,
> > failed by under 10 pts. could not believe it! so anyways, i keep
> > studying the material that i was given, take the test again two months
> > later, fail again by under 10 points. Obviously there is something i
> > am just not getting. My question is....should I stick with the
> > material that i was given?? It was supposedly almost the best, it was
> > used to teach the ICND course a few times i believe. I have been
> > looking around and there are so many books and router sims that I am
> > going mad trying to figure out what to do! I cant stand the
> > heartbreak of failing another time! or the break to my wallet!! ouch!
> > sooo....any suggestions all of you cisco guru's out there.
> >
> > TIA!!
> > M
>
>
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| Stuart Robinson 2003-04-30, 2:24 am |
| > I've heard of other people with extensive,
> real-world experience having the same problems with the MS certs and
> such,
> too.
That was exactly my experience with Novell CNE. The issue was often
knowing the answerers that Novell wanted rather than what might be
considered the correct (or one of the correct) answers.
That situation is not too surprising, the Company publishes a syllabus,
trainning manuals and courses etc. It would be logical to base the exams
on that material.
I hope to take the Novell 'Upgrade to CNE 5' exam in a few months,
although I have been installing these things for the last 3 years, I still
only scored 49% in a sample test.
Stuart.
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