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| Jose Albert 2003-10-23, 8:25 am |
| I am preparing the BSCI 642 new exam and I have the old book. I know they
have updated the chapters with IS-IS and something else....
I have downloaded the IS-IS from Cisco web, but I wonder if this is enough
to pass the new exam..... Any clue?
Do you know where can I find a more precise chapter content than the one in
the Cisco web site?
I would like to get the new BSCI book but it inot yet released!!!
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"Jose Albert" <joair@orange.dk> wrote in message
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> I am preparing the BSCI 642 new exam and I have the old book. I know they
> have updated the chapters with IS-IS and something else....
> I have downloaded the IS-IS from Cisco web, but I wonder if this is enough
> to pass the new exam..... Any clue?
> Do you know where can I find a more precise chapter content than the one
in
> the Cisco web site?
> I would like to get the new BSCI book but it inot yet released!!!
>
>
Well, My BSCI is tomorrow morning and I've been using the 640-901 book from
Sybex, so it had better be enough ;-) I'll let you know!
Chris.
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| You need NAT and IPv6 along with IS-IS. NAT is covered in the BCRAN Cisco
Press book. There's a chapter on NAT there. Read it, and practice it because
there's a NAT simulation on the exam as well as NAT questions.
There's actually a book on BSCI 642-801 from Exam Cram 2, which was released
in September. You may want to go to a bookstore and look at it. There's some
information on IPv6 in it.
The chapter that you downloaded from Cisco Press is fine for IS-IS.
Grey
"Jose Albert" <joair@orange.dk> wrote in message
news:bn8fo1$f6m$1@jarjarbinks.mobilixnet.dk...
> I am preparing the BSCI 642 new exam and I have the old book. I know they
> have updated the chapters with IS-IS and something else....
> I have downloaded the IS-IS from Cisco web, but I wonder if this is enough
> to pass the new exam..... Any clue?
> Do you know where can I find a more precise chapter content than the one
in
> the Cisco web site?
> I would like to get the new BSCI book but it inot yet released!!!
>
>
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"Chris" <chris@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jose Albert" <joair@orange.dk> wrote in message
> news:bn8fo1$f6m$1@jarjarbinks.mobilixnet.dk...
> > I am preparing the BSCI 642 new exam and I have the old book. I know
they
> > have updated the chapters with IS-IS and something else....
> > I have downloaded the IS-IS from Cisco web, but I wonder if this is
enough
> > to pass the new exam..... Any clue?
> > Do you know where can I find a more precise chapter content than the one
> in
> > the Cisco web site?
> > I would like to get the new BSCI book but it inot yet released!!!
> >
> >
>
> Well, My BSCI is tomorrow morning and I've been using the 640-901 book
from
> Sybex, so it had better be enough ;-) I'll let you know!
>
> Chris.
>
Well, I failed it!! 611 (pass mark was 776). It was to be expected as I left
the studying far too late and didn't cover all the material.
Loads of questions on redistribution, only one question on IPv6 and nothing
on NAT. Had one simulator where I was required to configure single area OSPF
and missed the last ten questions as I ran out of time 
My only gripe was with the incredible ambiguity of many of the questions.
So, it's back to the CCNA as mine runs out next week. Damn!
Chris.
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| I was in a similar situation. I passed my BSCI on October 8, and my CCNA
would have expired on October 12. I used Cisco Press BSCI Exam Preparation
Guide by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare published in 2001. It didn't have
the chapter on IS-IS, so I downloaded that from the Cisco Press web site. I
also bought two Cisco CIMs (Link-State Protocols and Expert Labs: IP
Routing), which gave me many ideas for lab scenarios that I practiced first
with the simulators, and then in my 3-router lab. And I barely passed this
test.
I think its worth the risk for you to get the Cisco Press book (either the
old one, that should be very cheap and download the IS-IS chapter, or the
newer one, which was published earlier this year) and study until the last
day of your valid CCNA. And then give it another try.
Before that exam I had decided that if I failed it, I would NOT go back to
studying for CCNA and just leave the field of Cisco.
I'm really sorry this happened to you, but it's as much your fault as it's
Todd Lammle's. I saw his book on BSCI in a bookstore, and I was appalled at
the degree of trivialization of rather serious topics that he resorted to in
that book.
Grey
"Chris" <chris@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Chris" <chris@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:bn8j4t$79c$1@newsreaderg1
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> >
> > "Jose Albert" <joair@orange.dk> wrote in message
> > news:bn8fo1$f6m$1@jarjarbinks.mobilixnet.dk...
> > > I am preparing the BSCI 642 new exam and I have the old book. I know
> they
> > > have updated the chapters with IS-IS and something else....
> > > I have downloaded the IS-IS from Cisco web, but I wonder if this is
> enough
> > > to pass the new exam..... Any clue?
> > > Do you know where can I find a more precise chapter content than the
one
> > in
> > > the Cisco web site?
> > > I would like to get the new BSCI book but it inot yet released!!!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, My BSCI is tomorrow morning and I've been using the 640-901 book
> from
> > Sybex, so it had better be enough ;-) I'll let you know!
> >
> > Chris.
> >
>
>
> Well, I failed it!! 611 (pass mark was 776). It was to be expected as I
left
> the studying far too late and didn't cover all the material.
>
> Loads of questions on redistribution, only one question on IPv6 and
nothing
> on NAT. Had one simulator where I was required to configure single area
OSPF
> and missed the last ten questions as I ran out of time
>
> My only gripe was with the incredible ambiguity of many of the questions.
> So, it's back to the CCNA as mine runs out next week. Damn!
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
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| Chris 2003-10-24, 11:24 am |
|
"Grey" <bbb@ccc.com> wrote in message
news:X_OdnUYIB-CTugSiRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> I was in a similar situation. I passed my BSCI on October 8, and my CCNA
> would have expired on October 12. I used Cisco Press BSCI Exam Preparation
> Guide by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare published in 2001. It didn't
have
> the chapter on IS-IS, so I downloaded that from the Cisco Press web site.
I
> also bought two Cisco CIMs (Link-State Protocols and Expert Labs: IP
> Routing), which gave me many ideas for lab scenarios that I practiced
first
> with the simulators, and then in my 3-router lab. And I barely passed this
> test.
>
> I think its worth the risk for you to get the Cisco Press book (either the
> old one, that should be very cheap and download the IS-IS chapter, or the
> newer one, which was published earlier this year) and study until the last
> day of your valid CCNA. And then give it another try.
>
> Before that exam I had decided that if I failed it, I would NOT go back to
> studying for CCNA and just leave the field of Cisco.
>
> I'm really sorry this happened to you, but it's as much your fault as it's
> Todd Lammle's. I saw his book on BSCI in a bookstore, and I was appalled
at
> the degree of trivialization of rather serious topics that he resorted to
in
> that book.
>
> Grey
>
>
It's absolutely my fault! I didn't do nearly enough studying for this exam
but I now know what I need to study for the next time. My CCNA runs out in
one week and so I don't have enough time to realistically cover all I need
to and be personally satisfied that I understand everything. So, I've
decided to re-take the CCNA (no biggie!!) and then go for the BSCI in about
two months. This gives me enough time for everything to soak in and maybe
get some rack time in.
As for the Sybex book, I found it to go into far more depth that the exam
did!! However, I have found that the best way to complement any book is to
read some of the Cisco documents on the web site.
Bring it on!!
Chris.
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| Well, if you think Todd's book went into more depth than the exam did, you
would be really surprised with the depth of Cisco Press books. I would
strongly recommend against Todd's books in the future.
Grey
"Chris" <chris@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Grey" <bbb@ccc.com> wrote in message
> news:X_OdnUYIB-CTugSiRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> > I was in a similar situation. I passed my BSCI on October 8, and my CCNA
> > would have expired on October 12. I used Cisco Press BSCI Exam
Preparation
> > Guide by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare published in 2001. It didn't
> have
> > the chapter on IS-IS, so I downloaded that from the Cisco Press web
site.
> I
> > also bought two Cisco CIMs (Link-State Protocols and Expert Labs: IP
> > Routing), which gave me many ideas for lab scenarios that I practiced
> first
> > with the simulators, and then in my 3-router lab. And I barely passed
this
> > test.
> >
> > I think its worth the risk for you to get the Cisco Press book (either
the
> > old one, that should be very cheap and download the IS-IS chapter, or
the
> > newer one, which was published earlier this year) and study until the
last
> > day of your valid CCNA. And then give it another try.
> >
> > Before that exam I had decided that if I failed it, I would NOT go back
to
> > studying for CCNA and just leave the field of Cisco.
> >
> > I'm really sorry this happened to you, but it's as much your fault as
it's
> > Todd Lammle's. I saw his book on BSCI in a bookstore, and I was appalled
> at
> > the degree of trivialization of rather serious topics that he resorted
to
> in
> > that book.
> >
> > Grey
> >
> >
>
> It's absolutely my fault! I didn't do nearly enough studying for this exam
> but I now know what I need to study for the next time. My CCNA runs out in
> one week and so I don't have enough time to realistically cover all I need
> to and be personally satisfied that I understand everything. So, I've
> decided to re-take the CCNA (no biggie!!) and then go for the BSCI in
about
> two months. This gives me enough time for everything to soak in and maybe
> get some rack time in.
>
> As for the Sybex book, I found it to go into far more depth that the exam
> did!! However, I have found that the best way to complement any book is to
> read some of the Cisco documents on the web site.
>
> Bring it on!!
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
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| I think you could pass the test if you study for another week with a good
book. You may have to take a week off work, though. I would definitely do
that. The problem that once you pass the test, unless you are in the routing
field, you will start forgetting things right away. So, a month after your
test, you would be just where you are now. Why go back to studying for CCNA
and then BSCI again? We are talking about a certification here, not the
amount of knowledge. Unless you are doing IS-IS, OSPF, BGP, etc., on the
daily basis, you don't have complete understanding of it anyway. Even if you
practice in the real lab, it's still not the real-world situation. You can
be a Cisco expert without a certification, or you can have a certification
and not be able to do much. These two things are only remotely related to
each other. We are in the field that requires certifications and knowledge.
You can acquire knowledge from Cisco books, but you have to pass the test to
be recognized. So, study for the test and pass it, and if you don't think
you know enough, continue you quest for knowledge after the test.
The amount of information covered on BSCI is enormous, and I doubt many
people can retain that information for a long time unless they use it every
day at work. And even if they do, they most likely don't work with all the
protocols covered on BSCI, so they start forgetting the ones they are not
using. That's the problem with the human memory unless you are a genius with
a photographic memory who can remember everything you have ever seen or
read.
Grey
"Chris" <chris@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Grey" <bbb@ccc.com> wrote in message
> news:X_OdnUYIB-CTugSiRVn-sg@comcast.com...
> > I was in a similar situation. I passed my BSCI on October 8, and my CCNA
> > would have expired on October 12. I used Cisco Press BSCI Exam
Preparation
> > Guide by Catherine Paquet and Diane Teare published in 2001. It didn't
> have
> > the chapter on IS-IS, so I downloaded that from the Cisco Press web
site.
> I
> > also bought two Cisco CIMs (Link-State Protocols and Expert Labs: IP
> > Routing), which gave me many ideas for lab scenarios that I practiced
> first
> > with the simulators, and then in my 3-router lab. And I barely passed
this
> > test.
> >
> > I think its worth the risk for you to get the Cisco Press book (either
the
> > old one, that should be very cheap and download the IS-IS chapter, or
the
> > newer one, which was published earlier this year) and study until the
last
> > day of your valid CCNA. And then give it another try.
> >
> > Before that exam I had decided that if I failed it, I would NOT go back
to
> > studying for CCNA and just leave the field of Cisco.
> >
> > I'm really sorry this happened to you, but it's as much your fault as
it's
> > Todd Lammle's. I saw his book on BSCI in a bookstore, and I was appalled
> at
> > the degree of trivialization of rather serious topics that he resorted
to
> in
> > that book.
> >
> > Grey
> >
> >
>
> It's absolutely my fault! I didn't do nearly enough studying for this exam
> but I now know what I need to study for the next time. My CCNA runs out in
> one week and so I don't have enough time to realistically cover all I need
> to and be personally satisfied that I understand everything. So, I've
> decided to re-take the CCNA (no biggie!!) and then go for the BSCI in
about
> two months. This gives me enough time for everything to soak in and maybe
> get some rack time in.
>
> As for the Sybex book, I found it to go into far more depth that the exam
> did!! However, I have found that the best way to complement any book is to
> read some of the Cisco documents on the web site.
>
> Bring it on!!
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
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"Grey" <bbb@ccc.com> wrote in message
news aydnTHxWc1J1wSiRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> I think you could pass the test if you study for another week with a good
> book. You may have to take a week off work, though. I would definitely do
> that. The problem that once you pass the test, unless you are in the
routing
> field, you will start forgetting things right away. So, a month after your
> test, you would be just where you are now. Why go back to studying for
CCNA
> and then BSCI again?
Well, I can't get a week off next week and I've got a firewall to build
Monday/Tuesday (as well as other work) so taking the test again next week is
absolutely out of the question. Even if I could, it's a lot to study in a
week. I got 611 today so there's a lot of stuff that I need to cover before
I'm ready to tackle it again. That leaves me sans CCNA by 1st November so
I've got no choice but to take that again. Having said that, it's not going
to be a problem as I work with Cisco stuff anyway and regularly help others
with CCNA study so I'm not expecting to have any problems.
As for the books, I could do with the Ciscopress BSCI. Is there a 642-801
book out yet or shall I make do with the 640-801 book? As long as it covers
all the same stuff.
Chris.
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| Well, if you decided to go back to studying for CCNA, by the time you are
ready for BSCI again the new book will be out. It comes out in December.
Grey
"Chris" <chris@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> "Grey" <bbb@ccc.com> wrote in message
> newsaydnTHxWc1J1wSiRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> > I think you could pass the test if you study for another week with a
good
> > book. You may have to take a week off work, though. I would definitely
do
> > that. The problem that once you pass the test, unless you are in the
> routing
> > field, you will start forgetting things right away. So, a month after
your
> > test, you would be just where you are now. Why go back to studying for
> CCNA
> > and then BSCI again?
>
> Well, I can't get a week off next week and I've got a firewall to build
> Monday/Tuesday (as well as other work) so taking the test again next week
is
> absolutely out of the question. Even if I could, it's a lot to study in a
> week. I got 611 today so there's a lot of stuff that I need to cover
before
> I'm ready to tackle it again. That leaves me sans CCNA by 1st November so
> I've got no choice but to take that again. Having said that, it's not
going
> to be a problem as I work with Cisco stuff anyway and regularly help
others
> with CCNA study so I'm not expecting to have any problems.
>
> As for the books, I could do with the Ciscopress BSCI. Is there a 642-801
> book out yet or shall I make do with the 640-801 book? As long as it
covers
> all the same stuff.
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
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