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| Jonathan 2002-08-27, 4:28 pm |
| I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't dial,
but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
Is there such a thing?
Jonathan
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-08-27, 7:28 pm |
| Hi !
Jonathan wrote:
> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't dial,
> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
> > Is there such a thing?
>
I believe no way, cause electrical signals are totally different, as I
was told when I asked the same kind of thing to very experienced people.
So no way without a PABX (may be very cheap) or an ISDN simulator (won't
be cheap), I believe.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified Java Programmer, Cisco Network & Design Associate, Linux
RedHat Engineer & Trainer
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-08-27, 8:42 pm |
| Hi !
Jonathan wrote:
> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't dial,
> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
> > Is there such a thing?
>
I believe no way, cause electrical signals are totally different, as I
was told when I asked the same kind of thing to very experienced people.
So no way without a PABX (may be very cheap) or an ISDN simulator (won't
be cheap), I believe.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified Java Programmer, Cisco Network & Design Associate, Linux
RedHat Engineer & Trainer
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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| Hansang Bae 2002-08-27, 9:28 pm |
| In article <3D6C235B.6090001@free.fr>, lemaitre.eric@free.fr says...
> I believe no way, cause electrical signals are totally different, as I
> was told when I asked the same kind of thing to very experienced people.
> So no way without a PABX (may be very cheap) or an ISDN simulator (won't
> be cheap), I believe.
I think there's a way with the new VIC based ISDN cards. See the
comp.dcom.sys.cisco's FAQ for more info.
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| Hansang Bae 2002-08-27, 10:28 pm |
| In article <3D6C235B.6090001@free.fr>, lemaitre.eric@free.fr says...
> I believe no way, cause electrical signals are totally different, as I
> was told when I asked the same kind of thing to very experienced people.
> So no way without a PABX (may be very cheap) or an ISDN simulator (won't
> be cheap), I believe.
I think there's a way with the new VIC based ISDN cards. See the
comp.dcom.sys.cisco's FAQ for more info.
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| CCIE 8122 2002-09-24, 9:29 pm |
| I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
kr
Jonathan wrote:
> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't dial,
> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>
> Is there such a thing?
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
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| CCIE 8122 2002-09-24, 10:29 pm |
| I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
kr
Jonathan wrote:
> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't dial,
> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>
> Is there such a thing?
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-09-25, 3:29 am |
| Hi all !
CCIE 8122 wrote:
> I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
>
> Jonathan wrote:
>
>> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
>> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't
>> dial,
>> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>> Is there such a thing?
Yes, you will be slightly mistaken :-) .
Hansang Bae already quoted that some rather high end ports on core
catalysts could do it with some configuration, I don't remember clearly,
but it was about 3/4 weeks ago.
But there is really another way, a Teles 4S0 BRI ISA card for PC
computer, the cheapest way by far, about 150 U.S.$ without shipping,
look on german EBay (pages.ebay.de). This is what I use presently, works
perfectly with DSS1 (Euro-ISDN or basic-net3) and german 1TR6 protocols.
You have to setup a german software, but it is very basic and remains
easy, and nothing will be cheaper.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE, Home site : http://lemaitre.eric.free.fr/
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified in Java, Cisco, Linux RedHat
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-09-25, 4:28 am |
| Hi all !
CCIE 8122 wrote:
> I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
>
> Jonathan wrote:
>
>> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
>> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't
>> dial,
>> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>> Is there such a thing?
Yes, you will be slightly mistaken :-) .
Hansang Bae already quoted that some rather high end ports on core
catalysts could do it with some configuration, I don't remember clearly,
but it was about 3/4 weeks ago.
But there is really another way, a Teles 4S0 BRI ISA card for PC
computer, the cheapest way by far, about 150 U.S.$ without shipping,
look on german EBay (pages.ebay.de). This is what I use presently, works
perfectly with DSS1 (Euro-ISDN or basic-net3) and german 1TR6 protocols.
You have to setup a german software, but it is very basic and remains
easy, and nothing will be cheaper.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE, Home site : http://lemaitre.eric.free.fr/
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified in Java, Cisco, Linux RedHat
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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| CCIE 8122 2002-09-25, 8:29 am |
| You learn something everyday.
Thanks, Eric.
New to the board here, so I didnt see that post.
kr
Eric LEMAITRE wrote:
> Hi all !
>
> CCIE 8122 wrote:
>
>> I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
>>
>> Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect
>>> two
>>> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It
>>> wouldn't dial,
>>> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>>> Is there such a thing?
>>
>
> Yes, you will be slightly mistaken :-) .
> Hansang Bae already quoted that some rather high end ports on core
> catalysts could do it with some configuration, I don't remember clearly,
> but it was about 3/4 weeks ago.
> But there is really another way, a Teles 4S0 BRI ISA card for PC
> computer, the cheapest way by far, about 150 U.S.$ without shipping,
> look on german EBay (pages.ebay.de). This is what I use presently, works
> perfectly with DSS1 (Euro-ISDN or basic-net3) and german 1TR6 protocols.
> You have to setup a german software, but it is very basic and remains
> easy, and nothing will be cheaper.
>
> Best regards.
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| CCIE 8122 2002-09-25, 9:29 am |
| You learn something everyday.
Thanks, Eric.
New to the board here, so I didnt see that post.
kr
Eric LEMAITRE wrote:
> Hi all !
>
> CCIE 8122 wrote:
>
>> I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
>>
>> Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect
>>> two
>>> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It
>>> wouldn't dial,
>>> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>>> Is there such a thing?
>>
>
> Yes, you will be slightly mistaken :-) .
> Hansang Bae already quoted that some rather high end ports on core
> catalysts could do it with some configuration, I don't remember clearly,
> but it was about 3/4 weeks ago.
> But there is really another way, a Teles 4S0 BRI ISA card for PC
> computer, the cheapest way by far, about 150 U.S.$ without shipping,
> look on german EBay (pages.ebay.de). This is what I use presently, works
> perfectly with DSS1 (Euro-ISDN or basic-net3) and german 1TR6 protocols.
> You have to setup a german software, but it is very basic and remains
> easy, and nothing will be cheaper.
>
> Best regards.
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| Chris Davies 2002-09-26, 12:29 pm |
| I have found a supplier on the german ebay (not easy when you don't
speak it  who has sent me the following info ...
we have on stock:
Teles 4S0-Card in different revisions (2.5, 2.6, 2.8, 3.1)
Please look at this ended auctions for information:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&ed=1033021954
&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOA E:2
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9&ed=1031252133
&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
The pictures are original!!!!!
Any help in getting the right card would be a great help and much
appreciated ..
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:02:56 +0200, Eric LEMAITRE
<lemaitre.eric@free.fr> wrote:
>Hi all !
>
>CCIE 8122 wrote:
>
>> I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
>>
>> Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
>>> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't
>>> dial,
>>> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>>> Is there such a thing?
>
>Yes, you will be slightly mistaken :-) .
>Hansang Bae already quoted that some rather high end ports on core
>catalysts could do it with some configuration, I don't remember clearly,
>but it was about 3/4 weeks ago.
>But there is really another way, a Teles 4S0 BRI ISA card for PC
>computer, the cheapest way by far, about 150 U.S.$ without shipping,
>look on german EBay (pages.ebay.de). This is what I use presently, works
>perfectly with DSS1 (Euro-ISDN or basic-net3) and german 1TR6 protocols.
> You have to setup a german software, but it is very basic and remains
>easy, and nothing will be cheaper.
>
>Best regards.
Cheers ....
Remove the ZZZ. to reply
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| Chris Davies 2002-09-26, 1:29 pm |
| I have found a supplier on the german ebay (not easy when you don't
speak it who has sent me the following info ...
we have on stock:
Teles 4S0-Card in different revisions (2.5, 2.6, 2.8, 3.1)
Please look at this ended auctions for information:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&ed=1033021954
&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9&ed=1031252133
&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
The pictures are original!!!!!
Any help in getting the right card would be a great help and much
appreciated ..
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:02:56 +0200, Eric LEMAITRE
<lemaitre.eric@free.fr> wrote:
>Hi all !
>
>CCIE 8122 wrote:
>
>> I could be mistaken, but no way without an ISDN sim.
>>
>> Jonathan wrote:
>>
>>> I heard that there was a method of using a crossover cable to connect two
>>> BRI U ports together (so you wouldn't need a Simulator)... It wouldn't
>>> dial,
>>> but it would bring the interfaces up and pass traffic...
>>> Is there such a thing?
>
>Yes, you will be slightly mistaken :-) .
>Hansang Bae already quoted that some rather high end ports on core
>catalysts could do it with some configuration, I don't remember clearly,
>but it was about 3/4 weeks ago.
>But there is really another way, a Teles 4S0 BRI ISA card for PC
>computer, the cheapest way by far, about 150 U.S.$ without shipping,
>look on german EBay (pages.ebay.de). This is what I use presently, works
>perfectly with DSS1 (Euro-ISDN or basic-net3) and german 1TR6 protocols.
> You have to setup a german software, but it is very basic and remains
>easy, and nothing will be cheaper.
>
>Best regards.
Cheers ....
Remove the ZZZ. to reply
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-09-26, 2:28 pm |
| Hi all !
Chris Davies wrote:
> I have found a supplier on the german ebay (not easy when you don't
> speak it who has sent me the following info ...
And what will be worse, MS-DOS driver will have to be setup in german too.
But with a little help from our Cisco newsgroup friends, especially the
ones from germany, perhaps we will be able to get the same drivers in
english. I have them in german only.
Luckily german people very often, almost always, speak english fluently,
so don't complain too much :-) .
> Please look at this ended auctions for information:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&ed=1033021954
> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9&ed=1031252133
> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>
> Any help in getting the right card would be a great help and much
> appreciated ..
All work, no trouble, the only difference is between the connector for
what is called I believe a VIPM interface (for communication between
heterogenous PBX), but we don't care. Get one of these cards, then the
driver, set it inside a PC with 16 bits ISA slots, and you're done.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE, Home site : http://lemaitre.eric.free.fr/
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified in Java, Cisco, Linux RedHat
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-09-26, 3:28 pm |
| Hi all !
Chris Davies wrote:
> I have found a supplier on the german ebay (not easy when you don't
> speak it who has sent me the following info ...
And what will be worse, MS-DOS driver will have to be setup in german too.
But with a little help from our Cisco newsgroup friends, especially the
ones from germany, perhaps we will be able to get the same drivers in
english. I have them in german only.
Luckily german people very often, almost always, speak english fluently,
so don't complain too much :-) .
> Please look at this ended auctions for information:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&ed=1033021954
> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9&ed=1031252133
> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>
> Any help in getting the right card would be a great help and much
> appreciated ..
All work, no trouble, the only difference is between the connector for
what is called I believe a VIPM interface (for communication between
heterogenous PBX), but we don't care. Get one of these cards, then the
driver, set it inside a PC with 16 bits ISA slots, and you're done.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE, Home site : http://lemaitre.eric.free.fr/
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified in Java, Cisco, Linux RedHat
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-09-26, 5:28 pm |
| Hi all !
Eric LEMAITRE wrote:
>> Please look at this ended auctions for information:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&ed=1033021954
>>
>> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9&ed=1031252133
>>
>> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>>
>> Any help in getting the right card would be a great help and much
>> appreciated ..
I forgot a small tip : These are BRI (4S0) cards versions 2.6 and 2.8,
they can accomodate too PRI (3S2M) and analogical cards (4AB). The older
versions such as 1.5 can take either PRI or analogical, but not both at
the same time.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE, Home site : http://lemaitre.eric.free.fr/
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified in Java, Cisco, Linux RedHat
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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| Eric LEMAITRE 2002-09-26, 6:28 pm |
| Hi all !
Eric LEMAITRE wrote:
>> Please look at this ended auctions for information:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1&ed=1033021954
>>
>> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9&ed=1031252133
>>
>> &ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAE:2
>>
>> Any help in getting the right card would be a great help and much
>> appreciated ..
I forgot a small tip : These are BRI (4S0) cards versions 2.6 and 2.8,
they can accomodate too PRI (3S2M) and analogical cards (4AB). The older
versions such as 1.5 can take either PRI or analogical, but not both at
the same time.
Best regards.
--
Eric LEMAITRE, Home site : http://lemaitre.eric.free.fr/
CNAM Computer Engineer, MS/CS
Certified in Java, Cisco, Linux RedHat
Java : SCJP2 (#H3CPAR00B0)
Cisco : CCNA (#CSCO10300611), CCDA (#CSCO10437862)
Linux RedHat : RHCE (#806099741300292), RHCX
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