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| Nicholas White 2003-02-18, 11:24 pm |
| How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I know,
or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different Lapel pin
with the "early achiever" status on it.
I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs and
high level certs.
Have a look at this link:
http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has "unified"
the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with different
levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
Hope to hear your comment on it.
Nicholas White
"Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > changes.
> > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > update there's been no communication.
> > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > >.
> You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft .NET
> credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for Microsoft
> .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
certificate.
>
> --
> Alice Ciccu
> Microsoft Training and Certification
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
>
| |
| Simon Geary 2003-02-19, 5:24 pm |
| I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around their
card in their wallet needs to get a life.
"Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
>
> Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I know,
> or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different Lapel
pin
> with the "early achiever" status on it.
>
> I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs and
> high level certs.
>
> Have a look at this link:
> http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
>
> One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has "unified"
> the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with different
> levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
>
> Hope to hear your comment on it.
>
> Nicholas White
>
> "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > changes.
> > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > update there's been no communication.
> > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > >.
> > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft .NET
> > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
Microsoft
> > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> certificate.
> >
> > --
> > Alice Ciccu
> > Microsoft Training and Certification
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| billyw 2003-02-19, 5:24 pm |
| what...
oh and i was going to wear mine out....
as for the card, i was going to go to th elocal BP and buy petrol with it..
seeing as bill personally signed my cert i thought i'd just got a copy of
his credit card..
"Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around their
> card in their wallet needs to get a life.
>
> "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> >
> > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
know,
> > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different Lapel
> pin
> > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> >
> > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs and
> > high level certs.
> >
> > Have a look at this link:
> > http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
> >
> > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
"unified"
> > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with different
> > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> >
> > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> >
> > Nicholas White
> >
> > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > changes.
> > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > >.
> > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
.. NET[c
olor=darkred]
> > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> Microsoft
> > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > certificate.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alice Ciccu
> > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Chris Cubley 2003-02-19, 6:24 pm |
| I have actually used the wallet card once. When I was at the Professional
Developers Conference, they were giving out free t-shirts for all MCSDs (as
if there's not enough t-shirt givaways at conferences already...). One guy
walked walked up in front of me and told them he was an MCSD and he wanted
his shirt. They wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have any proof he
was an MCSD. I then whipped out my wallet card and got my t-shirt. True,
the other guy could have gone and printed out his transcript and gotten his
t-shirt, but it just felt nice to be prepared.
Chris Cubley
"Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around their
> card in their wallet needs to get a life.
>
> "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> >
> > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
know,
> > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different Lapel
> pin
> > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> >
> > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs and
> > high level certs.
> >
> > Have a look at this link:
> > http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
> >
> > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
"unified"
> > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with different
> > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> >
> > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> >
> > Nicholas White
> >
> > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > changes.
> > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > >.
> > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
.. NET[c
olor=darkred]
> > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> Microsoft
> > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > certificate.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alice Ciccu
> > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Simon Geary 2003-02-19, 7:23 pm |
| So tell us Chris, do you wear your MCSD t-shirt often? To job interviews
perhaps?
"Chris Cubley" <chriscubley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eAZ8G7G2CHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I have actually used the wallet card once. When I was at the Professional
> Developers Conference, they were giving out free t-shirts for all MCSDs
(as
> if there's not enough t-shirt givaways at conferences already...). One
guy
> walked walked up in front of me and told them he was an MCSD and he wanted
> his shirt. They wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have any proof
he
> was an MCSD. I then whipped out my wallet card and got my t-shirt. True,
> the other guy could have gone and printed out his transcript and gotten
his
> t-shirt, but it just felt nice to be prepared.
>
> Chris Cubley
>
> "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
their
> > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> >
> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > >
> > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> know,
> > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
Lapel
> > pin
> > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > >
> > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > high level certs.
> > >
> > > Have a look at this link:
> > >[/color]
[url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > >
> > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> "unified"
> > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with[/color]
different
> > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > >
> > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > >
> > > Nicholas White
> > >
> > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > >.
> > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
> . NET
> > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > Microsoft
> > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > certificate.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| billyw 2003-02-19, 7:24 pm |
| P-A-R-T-AY...
what a party animal chris is...
next time your in bathgate chris give me a shout.. you'll be a great laugh,,
bet you wear polyester a lot as well
"Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#ZRTaZH2CHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> So tell us Chris, do you wear your MCSD t-shirt often? To job interviews
> perhaps?
>
> "Chris Cubley" <chriscubley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eAZ8G7G2CHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I have actually used the wallet card once. When I was at the
Professional[color
=green]
> > Developers Conference, they were giving out free t-shirts for all MCSDs
> (as
> > if there's not enough t-shirt givaways at conferences already...). One
> guy
> > walked walked up in front of me and told them he was an MCSD and he[/color]
wanted
> > his shirt. They wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have any
proof
> he
> > was an MCSD. I then whipped out my wallet card and got my t-shirt.
True,
> > the other guy could have gone and printed out his transcript and gotten
> his
> > t-shirt, but it just felt nice to be prepared.
> >
> > Chris Cubley
> >
> > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
> their
> > > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> > >
> > > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > > >
> > > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> > know,
> > > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
> Lapel
> > > pin
> > > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > > >
> > > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
> and
> > > > high level certs.
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at this link:
> > > >
> [url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url]
> > > >
> > > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> > "unified"
> > > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> different
> > > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > > >
> > > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > > >
> > > > Nicholas White
> > > >
> > > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for
Microsoft
> > .NET
> > > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > > certificate.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > > >
> > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > > rights.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Simon Geary 2003-02-19, 8:24 pm |
| Is that Bathgate as in Glasgow?
"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
news:uv03OsH2CHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> P-A-R-T-AY...
>
> what a party animal chris is...
> next time your in bathgate chris give me a shout.. you'll be a great
laugh,,
> bet you wear polyester a lot as well
>
> "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:#ZRTaZH2CHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > So tell us Chris, do you wear your MCSD t-shirt often? To job interviews
> > perhaps?
> >
> > "Chris Cubley" <chriscubley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:eAZ8G7G2CHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > I have actually used the wallet card once. When I was at the
> Professional[colo
r=darkred]
> > > Developers Conference, they were giving out free t-shirts for all[/color]
MCSDs
> > (as
> > > if there's not enough t-shirt givaways at conferences already...).
One
> > guy
> > > walked walked up in front of me and told them he was an MCSD and he
> wanted
> > > his shirt. They wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have any
> proof
> > he
> > > was an MCSD. I then whipped out my wallet card and got my t-shirt.
> True,
> > > the other guy could have gone and printed out his transcript and
gotten
> > his
> > > t-shirt, but it just felt nice to be prepared.
> > >
> > > Chris Cubley
> > >
> > > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
> > their
> > > > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> > > >
> > > > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > > > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > know,
> > > > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
> > Lapel
> > > > pin
> > > > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level[/color]
certs
> > and
> > > > > high level certs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a look at this link:
> > > > >
> > http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> > > "unified"
> > > > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> > different
> > > > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be
"unified". [colo
r=darkred]
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicholas White
> > > > >
> > > > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for
> Microsoft
> > > .NET
> > > > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > > > certificate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no
> > > > > > rights.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| billyw 2003-02-19, 8:24 pm |
| no that is bathgate as about 40 miles outside glasgow
"Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ucu1#5H2CHA.1748@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> Is that Bathgate as in Glasgow?
>
> "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
> news:uv03OsH2CHA.2292@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > P-A-R-T-AY...
> >
> > what a party animal chris is...
> > next time your in bathgate chris give me a shout.. you'll be a great
> laugh,,
> > bet you wear polyester a lot as well
> >
> > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:#ZRTaZH2CHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > So tell us Chris, do you wear your MCSD t-shirt often? To job
interviews
> > > perhaps?
> > >
> > > "Chris Cubley" <chriscubley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eAZ8G7G2CHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have actually used the wallet card once. When I was at the
> > Professional
> > > > Developers Conference, they were giving out free t-shirts for all
> MCSDs
> > > (as
> > > > if there's not enough t-shirt givaways at conferences already...).
> One
> > > guy
> > > > walked walked up in front of me and told them he was an MCSD and he
> > wanted
> > > > his shirt. They wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have any
> > proof
> > > he
> > > > was an MCSD. I then whipped out my wallet card and got my t-shirt.
> > True,
> > > > the other guy could have gone and printed out his transcript and
> gotten
> > > his
> > > > t-shirt, but it just felt nice to be prepared.
> > > >
> > > > Chris Cubley
> > > >
> > > > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries
around
> > > their
> > > > > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > > > > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every
one
> I
> > > > know,
> > > > > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a
different
> > > Lapel
> > > > > pin
> > > > > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level
> certs
> > > and
> > > > > > high level certs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have a look at this link:
> > > > > >
> > >
[url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> > > > "unified"
> > > > > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> > > different
> > > > > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be
> "unified".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nicholas White
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for
> > Microsoft
> > > > .NET
> > > > > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD[/color]
for[c
olor=darkred]
> > > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate[/color]
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > > > > certificate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and[/color]
confers
> > no
> > > > > > > rights.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
|
| Outta tatoo it on your damn forheads, then the hr people know not to hire
you. We want real programmers, not some VB flunky. And no, I don't respect
VB.net either.
"Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
>
> Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I know,
> or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different Lapel
pin
> with the "early achiever" status on it.
>
> I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs and
> high level certs.
>
> Have a look at this link:
> http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
>
> One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has "unified"
> the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with different
> levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
>
> Hope to hear your comment on it.
>
> Nicholas White
>
> "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > changes.
> > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > update there's been no communication.
> > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > >.
> > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft .NET
> > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
Microsoft
> > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> certificate.
> >
> > --
> > Alice Ciccu
> > Microsoft Training and Certification
> >
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights.
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Alan Davis 2003-02-20, 1:23 am |
| >They wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have any proof he
>was an MCSD. I then whipped out my wallet card and got my t-shirt.
"Oh, that will do nicely Sir"
| |
| Nicholas White 2003-02-20, 4:24 am |
| What's wrong with using the Lapel pin or Wallet card? You'll be a fool not
you use them.
What are you suggesting? Speak out to everyone that you are "MCSD"?
How unprofessional...
And be clear, the topic we discussing here is about Logo designs. Not,
whether or not to use them.
Nicholas White
"Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around their
> card in their wallet needs to get a life.
>
> "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> >
> > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
know,
> > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different Lapel
> pin
> > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> >
> > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs and
> > high level certs.
> >
> > Have a look at this link:
> > http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
> >
> > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
"unified"
> > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with different
> > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> >
> > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> >
> > Nicholas White
> >
> > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > changes.
> > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > >.
> > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
.. NET[c
olor=darkred]
> > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> Microsoft
> > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > certificate.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alice Ciccu
> > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| billyw 2003-02-20, 4:24 am |
| actually you wouldn't be a fool to use them, your right..
u'd just look a dick
"Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
news:uT9UsLM2CHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> What's wrong with using the Lapel pin or Wallet card? You'll be a fool not
> you use them.
>
> What are you suggesting? Speak out to everyone that you are "MCSD"?
>
> How unprofessional...
>
> And be clear, the topic we discussing here is about Logo designs. Not,
> whether or not to use them.
>
> Nicholas White
>
> "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
their
> > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> >
> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > >
> > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> know,
> > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
Lapel
> > pin
> > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > >
> > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > high level certs.
> > >
> > > Have a look at this link:
> > >[/color]
[url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > >
> > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> "unified"
> > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with[/color]
different
> > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > >
> > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > >
> > > Nicholas White
> > >
> > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > >.
> > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
> . NET
> > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > Microsoft
> > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > certificate.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Steven Livepool 2003-02-20, 4:24 am |
|
"Ryan" <Notme@yourmailbox.com> wrote in message
news:e3O$SQK2CHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> Outta tatoo it on your damn forheads,
No I wouldn't want to do that. That's the whole point we are discussing here
about logos so that they will attach nicely on our clothes. Not like you
putting tatto on your forehead like an wild animal.
> then the hr people know not to hire you.
> We want real programmers, not some VB flunky.
If you're not an employer, your statement is worthless. Even if you are, it
is still worthless because it just your opnion peiece. Nothing more.
Who are real programmers? What are the measures?
A good programmer should never be paranoid about one language. In the real
software developement, using just one language is never enough. A mix of
different languages must be used for different parts of the project. And it
certainly shows that you are not a good programmer.
> And no, I don't respect
> VB.net either.
>
Who cares about what you respect? I don't.
Steven
>
> "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> >
> > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
know,
> > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different Lapel
> pin
> > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> >
> > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs and
> > high level certs.
> >
> > Have a look at this link:
> > http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
> >
> > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
"unified"
> > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with different
> > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> >
> > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> >
> > Nicholas White
> >
> > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > changes.
> > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > >.
> > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
.. NET[c
olor=darkred]
> > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> Microsoft
> > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > certificate.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alice Ciccu
> > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > >
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Larry Muir 2003-02-20, 4:24 am |
| And the reason is?
Larry
"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
news:utqVWSM2CHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> actually you wouldn't be a fool to use them, your right..
> u'd just look a dick
>
> "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> news:uT9UsLM2CHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > What's wrong with using the Lapel pin or Wallet card? You'll be a fool
not
> > you use them.
> >
> > What are you suggesting? Speak out to everyone that you are "MCSD"?
> >
> > How unprofessional...
> >
> > And be clear, the topic we discussing here is about Logo designs. Not,
> > whether or not to use them.
> >
> > Nicholas White
> >
> > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
> their
> > > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> > >
> > > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > > >
> > > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> > know,
> > > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
> Lapel
> > > pin
> > > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > > >
> > > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
> and
> > > > high level certs.
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at this link:
> > > >
> [url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url]
> > > >
> > > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> > "unified"
> > > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> different
> > > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > > >
> > > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > > >
> > > > Nicholas White
> > > >
> > > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for
Microsoft
> > .NET
> > > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > > certificate.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > > >
> > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > > rights.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
|
|
"billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
news:utqVWSM2CHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> actually you wouldn't be a fool to use them, your right..
> u'd just look a dick
>
I think you'll be the one who will look like a dick if you go around people
telling what qualifications you got [IF you have one].
Jason
> "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> news:uT9UsLM2CHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > What's wrong with using the Lapel pin or Wallet card? You'll be a fool
not
> > you use them.
> >
> > What are you suggesting? Speak out to everyone that you are "MCSD"?
> >
> > How unprofessional...
> >
> > And be clear, the topic we discussing here is about Logo designs. Not,
> > whether or not to use them.
> >
> > Nicholas White
> >
> > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
> their
> > > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> > >
> > > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > > >
> > > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> > know,
> > > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
> Lapel
> > > pin
> > > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > > >
> > > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
> and
> > > > high level certs.
> > > >
> > > > Have a look at this link:
> > > >
> [url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url]
> > > >
> > > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> > "unified"
> > > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> different
> > > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > > >
> > > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > > >
> > > > Nicholas White
> > > >
> > > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for
Microsoft
> > .NET
> > > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > > certificate.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > > >
> > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no[co
lor=darkred]
> > > > > rights.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| billyw 2003-02-20, 4:24 am |
| a dunno if i have a kwalifikatin cause a didny go to skool when i wis a
liitle children.
my england isn't very gid
"Jason" <me2@u2.com> wrote in message news:OPcECdM2CHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP12...
>
> "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
> news:utqVWSM2CHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > actually you wouldn't be a fool to use them, your right..
> > u'd just look a dick
> >
>
> I think you'll be the one who will look like a dick if you go around
people
> telling what qualifications you got [IF you have one].
>
> Jason
>
> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > news:uT9UsLM2CHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > What's wrong with using the Lapel pin or Wallet card? You'll be a fool
> not
> > > you use them.
> > >
> > > What are you suggesting? Speak out to everyone that you are "MCSD"?
> > >
> > > How unprofessional...
> > >
> > > And be clear, the topic we discussing here is about Logo designs. Not,
> > > whether or not to use them.
> > >
> > > Nicholas White
> > >
> > > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
> > their
> > > > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> > > >
> > > > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > > > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > know,
> > > > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
> > Lapel
> > > > pin
> > > > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level[/color]
certs
> > and
> > > > > high level certs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a look at this link:
> > > > >
> > http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> > > "unified"
> > > > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> > different
> > > > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be
"unified". [colo
r=darkred]
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicholas White
> > > > >
> > > > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for
> Microsoft
> > > .NET
> > > > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > > > certificate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no
> > > > > > rights.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Alan Davis 2003-02-20, 5:23 am |
| >A good programmer should never be paranoid about one language.
Absolutely.
The choice of 'programming language(s)', if defined, is a process
constraint; not a functional or non-functional requirement of the
system to be built.
| |
| billyw 2003-02-20, 5:23 am |
| actually on a serious note..
there are few good programmers.
trouble is they program for programmers. seldom for joe public that barely
knows a thing.
"Steven Livepool" <nah@noway.com> wrote in message
news:OFKGQXM2CHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> "Ryan" <Notme@yourmailbox.com> wrote in message
> news:e3O$SQK2CHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > Outta tatoo it on your damn forheads,
>
> No I wouldn't want to do that. That's the whole point we are discussing
here
> about logos so that they will attach nicely on our clothes. Not like you
> putting tatto on your forehead like an wild animal.
>
> > then the hr people know not to hire you.
> > We want real programmers, not some VB flunky.
>
> If you're not an employer, your statement is worthless. Even if you are,
it
> is still worthless because it just your opnion peiece. Nothing more.
>
> Who are real programmers? What are the measures?
>
> A good programmer should never be paranoid about one language. In the real
> software developement, using just one language is never enough. A mix of
> different languages must be used for different parts of the project. And
it
> certainly shows that you are not a good programmer.
>
> > And no, I don't respect
> > VB.net either.
> >
>
> Who cares about what you respect? I don't.
>
> Steven
>
> >
> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > >
> > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> know,
> > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
Lapel
> > pin
> > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > >
> > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > high level certs.
> > >
> > > Have a look at this link:
> > >[/color]
[url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > >
> > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> "unified"
> > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with[/color]
different
> > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > >
> > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > >
> > > Nicholas White
> > >
> > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > >.
> > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
> . NET
> > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > Microsoft
> > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > certificate.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| billyw 2003-02-20, 5:23 am |
| what wild animal do you know of that has a tattoo on it's forehead..
i can't think of any..
sorry but your argument for me fell down at that point
"Steven Livepool" <nah@noway.com> wrote in message
news:OFKGQXM2CHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> "Ryan" <Notme@yourmailbox.com> wrote in message
> news:e3O$SQK2CHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> > Outta tatoo it on your damn forheads,
>
> No I wouldn't want to do that. That's the whole point we are discussing
here
> about logos so that they will attach nicely on our clothes. Not like you
> putting tatto on your forehead like an wild animal.
>
> > then the hr people know not to hire you.
> > We want real programmers, not some VB flunky.
>
> If you're not an employer, your statement is worthless. Even if you are,
it
> is still worthless because it just your opnion peiece. Nothing more.
>
> Who are real programmers? What are the measures?
>
> A good programmer should never be paranoid about one language. In the real
> software developement, using just one language is never enough. A mix of
> different languages must be used for different parts of the project. And
it
> certainly shows that you are not a good programmer.
>
> > And no, I don't respect
> > VB.net either.
> >
>
> Who cares about what you respect? I don't.
>
> Steven
>
> >
> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > >
> > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> know,
> > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
Lapel
> > pin
> > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > >
> > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > high level certs.
> > >
> > > Have a look at this link:
> > >[/color]
[url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > >
> > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> "unified"
> > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with[/color]
different
> > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > >
> > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > >
> > > Nicholas White
> > >
> > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > >.
> > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
> . NET
> > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > Microsoft
> > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > certificate.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Consultant 2003-02-20, 9:24 am |
| i used mine a few times, this local strip club was giving free lap dances to
mcse's, this guy claimed he was, but couldn't produce the evidence. i was
the only one in the club with my card and not only got free lap dances all
night, but admission into the vip area.
"Chris Cubley" <chriscubley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eAZ8G7G2CHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I have actually used the wallet card once. When I was at the Professional
> Developers Conference, they were giving out free t-shirts for all MCSDs
(as
> if there's not enough t-shirt givaways at conferences already...). One
guy
> walked walked up in front of me and told them he was an MCSD and he wanted
> his shirt. They wouldn't give it to him because he didn't have any proof
he
> was an MCSD. I then whipped out my wallet card and got my t-shirt. True,
> the other guy could have gone and printed out his transcript and gotten
his
> t-shirt, but it just felt nice to be prepared.
>
> Chris Cubley
>
> "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
their
> > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> >
> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > >
> > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
> know,
> > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
Lapel
> > pin
> > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > >
> > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
and[c
olor=darkred]
> > > high level certs.
> > >
> > > Have a look at this link:
> > >[/color]
[url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url][
color=darkred]
> > >
> > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> "unified"
> > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with[/color]
different
> > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
> > >
> > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > >
> > > Nicholas White
> > >
> > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > changes.
> > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > >.
> > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
> . NET
> > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > Microsoft
> > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > certificate.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > >
> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > rights.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
| |
| Consultant 2003-02-20, 9:24 am |
| why would you even need to ask that? oh wait, you wear your lapel pin on
your tie every day, don't you....
"Larry Muir" <pcpd@whyintheworld.com> wrote in message
news:u59#5YM2CHA.1748@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> And the reason is?
>
> Larry
>
> "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote in message
> news:utqVWSM2CHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > actually you wouldn't be a fool to use them, your right..
> > u'd just look a dick
> >
> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > news:uT9UsLM2CHA.2644@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > What's wrong with using the Lapel pin or Wallet card? You'll be a fool
> not
> > > you use them.
> > >
> > > What are you suggesting? Speak out to everyone that you are "MCSD"?
> > >
> > > How unprofessional...
> > >
> > > And be clear, the topic we discussing here is about Logo designs. Not,
> > > whether or not to use them.
> > >
> > > Nicholas White
> > >
> > > "Simon Geary" <simon_geary@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OS45QYG2CHA.2472@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > I think anyone who actually wears their lapel pin or carries around
> > their
> > > > card in their wallet needs to get a life.
> > > >
> > > > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
> > > > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
> > > > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > know,
> > > > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
> > Lapel
> > > > pin
> > > > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level[/color]
certs
> > and
> > > > > high level certs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Have a look at this link:
> > > > >
> > http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicat...ewmcplogos.msnw
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
> > > "unified"
> > > > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> > different
> > > > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be
"unified". [colo
r=darkred]
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nicholas White
> > > > >
> > > > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
> > > > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
> > > > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
> > > > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
> > > > > > > changes.
> > > > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
> > > > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
> > > > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
> > > > > > > update there's been no communication.
> > > > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
> > > > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
> > > > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
> > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for
> Microsoft
> > > .NET
> > > > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
> > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
> > > > > certificate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Alice Ciccu
> > > > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no
> > > > > > rights.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]
| |
| Alan Davis 2003-02-20, 10:24 am |
| >i used mine a few times, this local strip club was giving free lap dances to
>mcse's, this guy claimed he was, but couldn't produce the evidence. i was
>the only one in the club with my card and not only got free lap dances all
>night, but admission into the vip area.
lol! One in the eye to those who say ms certs are worthless!
Are these open to all mcse's as 'premium benefits'?
| |
| KLXrider 2003-02-20, 10:24 am |
| You don't really think that do you?
There are many good programmers out there, they just don't fall into
the 20 something cert chasing crowd. Good programmers spend years
learning the craft, and are not quick to jump on the MS bandwagon
when they update their software. Besides Borland Builder is way
better then Visual C++.
Mike W
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:49:39 -0000, "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote:
>actually on a serious note..
>
>there are few good programmers.
>trouble is they program for programmers. seldom for joe public that barely
>knows a thing.
>
>
>"Steven Livepool" <nah@noway.com> wrote in message
>news:OFKGQXM2CHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Ryan" <Notme@yourmailbox.com> wrote in message
>> news:e3O$SQK2CHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP12...
>> > Outta tatoo it on your damn forheads,
>>
>> No I wouldn't want to do that. That's the whole point we are discussing
>here
>> about logos so that they will attach nicely on our clothes. Not like you
>> putting tatto on your forehead like an wild animal.
>>
>> > then the hr people know not to hire you.
>> > We want real programmers, not some VB flunky.
>>
>> If you're not an employer, your statement is worthless. Even if you are,
>it
>> is still worthless because it just your opnion peiece. Nothing more.
>>
>> Who are real programmers? What are the measures?
>>
>> A good programmer should never be paranoid about one language. In the real
>> software developement, using just one language is never enough. A mix of
>> different languages must be used for different parts of the project. And
>it
>> certainly shows that you are not a good programmer.
>>
>> > And no, I don't respect
>> > VB.net either.
>> >
>>
>> Who cares about what you respect? I don't.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>> >
>> > "Nicholas White" <nw@paradise.co.ru> wrote in message
>> > news:u197fF91CHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGP10...
>> > > How about a different Lapel pin for early achievers?
>> > >
>> > > Because it is very rare for me to show my wallet card to every one I
>> know,
>> > > or when go to job interview. The better way is to put a different
> Lapel
>> > pin
>> > > with the "early achiever" status on it.
>> > >
>> > > I hope, Microsoft will do something to differentiate low level certs
> and
>> > > high level certs.
>> > >
>> > > Have a look at this link:
>> > >
>[url]http://groups.msn.com/MCPCommunicationCenter/commentsonnewmcplogos.msnw[/ url]
>> > >
>> > > One of the MCSDs is actually complaining about how Microsoft has
>> "unified"
>> > > the logo and how those logos does NOT differentiate MCPs with
> different
>> > > levels of certs. But I think most MCP doesn't want to be "unified".
>> > >
>> > > Hope to hear your comment on it.
>> > >
>> > > Nicholas White
>> > >
>> > > "Alice Ciccu (MS)" <alice@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:Obzi2#41CHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP09...
>> > > > "mk" <mk@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> > > > news:02f101c2d6e2$faacb250$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
>> > > > > So far there's no change to the logo download on the
>> > > > > secure site. I haven't heard anything from MS
>> > > > > regarding .Net logos, so I expect there won't be any
>> > > > > changes.
>> > > > > I think that there may be a new cert/wallet card sent
>> > > > > out, normally there's an email notification from MS when
>> > > > > you hit a new target, but so far apart from a transcript
>> > > > > update there's been no communication.
>> > > > > Can anyone from MS shed some light on this?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > > >Hi,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >I was wondering, if we attain both the MCSD and
>> > > > > MCSD .NET certification status, do we have seperate
>> > > > > >logos in our business cards, or just one MCSD logo?
>> > > > > >.
>> > > > You are correct, there is not a new logo for the MCSD for Microsoft
>> .NET
>> > > > credential. For Early Achievers, those who obtain the MCSD for
>> > Microsoft
>> > > > .NET by September 30, 2003, there will be a new certificate and
>> > > certificate.
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Alice Ciccu
>> > > > Microsoft Training and Certification
>> > > >
>> > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> > > > rights.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
| |
| billyw 2003-02-20, 10:24 am |
| as we speak keyboard cowboy is flashing his card to his relatives... that
man'll get a lap dance anywhere
"Alan Davis" <T> wrote in message
news:fjs95vsvi7imbqf2eaike62ka
ma25fqt6c@4ax.com...
> >i used mine a few times, this local strip club was giving free lap dances
to
> >mcse's, this guy claimed he was, but couldn't produce the evidence. i was
> >the only one in the club with my card and not only got free lap dances
all
> >night, but admission into the vip area.
>
> lol! One in the eye to those who say ms certs are worthless!
>
> Are these open to all mcse's as 'premium benefits'?
| |
| billyw 2003-02-20, 10:24 am |
| actually i do think that...
the ideal would be where you wouldn't need a manual. the software should be
obvious..
in software terms we are still pulling carts with oxen.. we have a long way
to go..
if your gran can't work it from the get go.. then it's no good.. if u know
what i mean
"KLXrider" <nojunk@email.com> wrote in message
news:3as95vclggidbr62jert5ucqh
aiqq9sk66@4ax.com...
> You don't really think that do you?
>
> There are many good programmers out there, they just don't fall into
> the 20 something cert chasing crowd. Good programmers spend years
> learning the craft, and are not quick to jump on the MS bandwagon
> when they update their software. Besides Borland Builder is way
> better then Visual C++.
>
> Mike W
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 10:49:39 -0000, "billyw" <b@brainless.net> wrote:
>
> >actually on a serious note..
> >
> >there are few good programmers.
> >trouble is they program for programmers. seldom for joe public that
barely
> >knows a thing.
> >
> >
> >"Steven Livepool" <nah@noway.com> wrote in message
> >news:OFKGQXM2CHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "Ryan" <Notme@yourmailbox.com> wrote in message
> >> news:e3O$SQK2CHA.1644@TK2MSFTNGP12...
> >> > Outta tatoo it on your damn forheads,
> >>
> >> No I wouldn't want to do that. That's the whole point we are discussing
> >here
> >> about logos so that they will attach nicely on our clothes. Not like
you[c
olor=darkred]
> >> putting tatto on your forehead like an wild animal.
> >>
> >> > then the hr people know not to hire you.
> >> > We want real programmers, not some VB flunky.
> >>
> >> If you're not an employer, your statement is worthless. Even if you[/color]
are,
> >it
> >> is still worthless because it just your opnion peiece. Nothing more.
> >>
> >> Who are real programmers? What are the measures?
> >>
> >> A good programmer should never be paranoid about one language. In the
real[
color=darkred]
> >> software developement, using just one lan | | |