microsoft.public.cert.mct - Re: MCT Renewel -- Good Idea or Not?

Author

Re: MCT Renewel -- Good Idea or Not?

Thomas Frehner

2002-06-23, 6:16 am

Dave Fleming wrote:

> Basically I let my MCT slip as I could not find decent work as an MCT out
> here in the Midwest.

> I still have the opportunity to either renew or go Inactive. Anybody have
> any views on that? Should I go the road alone and pay? (I am not currently
> sponsored by an AATP or CTEC). It's just quite a chunk of change to come up
> with!

I personally choosed inactive status. The new requirements are way to
crazy for freelance Trainers. No, i am not happy at all with MS.

Paul Adare

2002-06-23, 6:16 am

In article <u2Iw4OO$BHA.1696@tkmsftngp04>, thomas.frehner@bta.ch says...
> I personally choosed inactive status. The new requirements are way to
> crazy for freelance Trainers. No, i am not happy at all with MS.
>

So, if you chose inactive, then you're not training. What about the
requirements are "crazy"? Also, if you're not going to meet the
requirements, then why bother going inactive?

--
Paul Adare
A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

Thomas Frehner

2002-06-23, 6:16 am

Paul Adare wrote:

> In article <u2Iw4OO$BHA.1696@tkmsftngp04>, thomas.frehner@bta.ch says...
> > I personally choosed inactive status. The new requirements are way to
> > crazy for freelance Trainers. No, i am not happy at all with MS.
> >

> So, if you chose inactive, then you're not training.

I currently work as an IT Trainer for a non Microsoft product (yes, there
are still some non MS products

. It's even better fun than MOC courses
because people from all over the world join these trainings. It's about
the same tech level but specialised software (even NT/W2000 based).

Beside that, I work as a network engineer (exchange, web, asp...-> the
whole MS world). The company I work for is MCSP, however, they are
currently not interested in offering MOC trainings which means I cannot
get training credits this year unless I freelance additionally for a CTEC.
That again would be a bit crazy just to meet the new MCT requirements... :O

> What about the requirements are "crazy"?

Some years ago, the requirement to become MCT was to have an MCP and to
visit a train the trainer course (five days). This was crazy too as nearly
everyone could become an MCT then.

Later on, the requirements changed. You then needed a premier title (MCSE,
MCDBA...) an MCP itself was no longer sufficient and for sure, didactical
skills. That seemed to be a realistic requirement and I joined in after I
had been invited by Microsoft Switzerland to do so.

Since October you must have
- a premier title (since April on W2000)
- pay some money each year
- earn your technical credits each year (3 exams)
- earn five instructional credits each year
- deliver five days of MOC training each year

Don't you think that the new requirements are crazy, especially if you
compare them with the early days? Do not forget, you must meet them every
year now, if you decide to take a year off, you are out of the mighty
club...

I find nothing wrong about setting requirements for trainers, after all
the students spend a lot of money for their courses. However, for me it
seems that they only want to keep their closest followers and on top of
that, you must now be thankful to belong to that elite and pay them a fee.
You could call it funny, you could call it crazy too

Hups, sorry, I forgot, according to MS the fee is for the online MOC
material which was promised to us for years now. For sure it has to be
that expensive because you have to download it all yourself.

> Also, if you're not going to meet the requirements, then why bother going
inactive?

Well I could have put myself active as I did meet the requirements in
October, I just did not like to spend even more money and I was (and still
am) uncertain if I truly want to follow the way MS is currently going with
their Trainer programme.

The small positive aspects about being inactive rather then opting out
completely are the following:

1. I still get the MCT discounts during that year (I must do another two
exams and I have the money back in

2. It gives me another year to think if I should become a pure MS or a
pure non MS trainer... (it takes a while until ex-followers become fully
independent again

3. They might even change the MCT program again to a level I would agree
on. After all Microsoft changes their policy quite often, just remember
the MCSE decertification story. If not - I will survive it.
4. I still get invited to some of the rare events, MCSEs do not get
invited too.

You certainly now the statistics on MCPMAG.COM. It will be interesting to
see how many trainers will be shown by the end of 2002. Per 2001 there
were 20'000, if they do not fake the figures I belive there will be a
signifcant decrease in numbers.

Truth is:
I am still uncertain if I should keep my MCT credentials current (I have
already enough tech credits for 2003 and hold a valid premier
certification but I would still need to deliver five days MOC, earn five
instructional credits but will it be worth it?).

Especially because I find giving international courses much more fun than
giving local ones.

How do you think / feel about the new requirements? Do you think they are
fully appropriate?

Thomas, Switzerland
Yet MCT

> --
> Paul Adare
> A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.

Funny sentence - there is a lot of truth in it...

Sponsored Links