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Anti MCGNP Fag Patrol

2004-01-15, 11:24 pm


Whoops,you got burnt when you bought that trash.Throw it
away as you will surely fail your 228 if that is all you
have to study.Please don't waste anymore hard earned cash
on MS press.

If you can afford video tutorials,try AppDev.Wayne Snyder
{MVP}did a 228 & 229 a few years back that absolutely
rocks.Most of the clowns here will have you running in
circles buying more trash.Been there, done that.
Do a search at Ebay.Be sure to pick up a copy of SQL 2000
Developer as you will need query analyzer practice time
and you can use it after you get certified.You may even
find some decent tutorials there also.Where would you
unload them if you were through with them?

Kalen Delaney "Inside SQL Server 2000" < Rocks

See if you can download some free test questions to get
familiar with the actual format.Try not to spend money at
these types of sites.Who knows what you'll get.One scam is
just as lame as another.
www.icertify.com
www.boson.com
www.testking.org
www.measureup.com
You can get a free download if you buy a voucher at
www.ExamVouchers.com I've bought all mine and they
call me at home and double check my orders often.It's a
good feeling to know your getting your money's
worth ,FINALLY!

There are more scams in study materials for certs than
anything I've found on the net.Don't get burned anymore.

Best wishs

>-----Original Message-----
>.... and what do you do when that happens?
>
>I am studying for my first certification (70-228) and I

really have no idea
>what to expect (accept that I will probably put a $500

dent in my bank
>account).
>
>What kills me is that I am reading the Self-Paced

Training Kit on SQL Server
>2000 Administration from Microsoft Press and some of the

example questions
>are unclear and others I just can't agree with the

answers.
>
>For example
>
>Q. 70-228.03.04.004 - question states that database

recovery model is SIMPLE
>and DBA added differential backups to occur every hour

(in addition to
>existing configuration of full backups once a day), and

correct answer
>states "you have minimized the time it would take to

recover the database to
>a point of failure". With SIMPLE model you cannot

recover to the point of
>failure, only to the point of the last database backup

(full or
>differential).
>
>Q. 70-228.03.02.003 - question asks which method provides

THE BEST (actual
>text does not have this capitalized) performance benefits

when reading data.
>Then it asks to choose all that apply. Unless there are

at least 2 methods
>which create identical performance gains (which are hard

to quantify as it
>is), how can you specify more than one answer when one

will have to be
>better than the other? Correct answers (2 of them) where

disk mirroring and
>formatting NTFS volume with 64KB extents. I agree the

latter one will
>increase performance, but I don't think it would be

nearly as much as disk
>mirroring where we actually have 2 disks giving us data

almost in parallel.
>I only picked mirroring.
>
>Is it just me, or are these questions ambiguous? And if

they are, are there
>questions like these on real exams? And if there are,

what do you do? Suck
>it in and hope you will answer the rest of the questions

enough to pass, or
>do you have a say?
>
>-- Dennis
>
>
>.
>

Kael V. Dowdy

2004-01-16, 2:24 pm

"Anti MCGNP Fag Patrol" <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:< 065801c3dbe4$864e9830$a401280a
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> Whoops,you got burnt when you bought that trash.Throw it >
> See if you can download some free test questions to get
> familiar with the actual format.Try not to spend money at
> these types of sites.Who knows what you'll get.One scam is
> just as lame as another.
> www.icertify.com
> www.boson.com
> www.testking.org
> www.measureup.com


Just to let you know, be careful about some of the sites you post.
TestKing is a braindump site (I don't know about icertify or boson as
I didn't go to those). You gave some great resources (AppDev,
Delaney's book, measureup.com), but I wouldn't mention a site like TK
in the same breath as a legitimate site, so as not not confuse ppl.

By reading the first post, it sounds like Dennis knows what he's
talking about--wanting to discuss the MSPress questions from a few
different test objectives--so I'm sure he'd realize the difference
between a genuine and legit resource vs. a dump site like TK.

Just my thoughts.

Kael
AntiMCGNP Fag Patrol

2004-01-16, 7:24 pm

Actually Kael,I discouraged him from that entire list of
sites.And the concept of a "legitimate" IT study
guide/test question site is relative at best.That's why I
discouraged them all.That is also why I mentioned the free
access with a voucher purchase so as to let him see for
himself without getting scammed again.Unfortunately,I
forgot to Exclude www.selftestsoftware.com as I have never
received current material from them and they do not honor
their own gaurantee.Being listed at a MS page is the only
reason they were able to scam me in the first place.
>-----Original Message-----
>"Anti MCGNP Fag Patrol"

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>Just to let you know, be careful about some of the sites

you post.
>TestKing is a braindump site (I don't know about icertify

or boson as
>I didn't go to those). You gave some great resources

(AppDev,
>Delaney's book, measureup.com), but I wouldn't mention a

site like TK
>in the same breath as a legitimate site, so as not not

confuse ppl.
>
>By reading the first post, it sounds like Dennis knows

what he's
>talking about--wanting to discuss the MSPress questions

from a few
>different test objectives--so I'm sure he'd realize the

difference
>between a genuine and legit resource vs. a dump site like

TK.
>
>Just my thoughts.
>
>Kael
>.
>

Kael V. Dowdy

2004-01-17, 12:23 am

"AntiMCGNP Fag Patrol" <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:< 024501c3dc88$2e7d9170$a001280a
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> Actually Kael,I discouraged him from that entire list of
> sites.And the concept of a "legitimate" IT study
> guide/test question site is relative at best.That's why I
> discouraged them all.That is also why I mentioned the free
> access with a voucher purchase so as to let him see for
> himself without getting scammed again.Unfortunately,I
> forgot to Exclude www.selftestsoftware.com as I have never
> received current material from them and they do not honor
> their own gaurantee.Being listed at a MS page is the only
> reason they were able to scam me in the first place.



Oops...sorry about that. I think I read it too fast when I first read
it, and didn't catch what you meant at first.

Yeah, you're right. Legitimate study resources are definately
relative and subjective. I've never used measureup or STS (both
endorsed by MS the last I read)...I've primarily used Transender. My
training center endorses and sells Transcenders, and have found them
pretty good...although they can be a bit "too" close to the actual
exams (at least the ones I took for VB 6.) I don't know quite how I
feel about them as you can argue that Transcenders are legal
braindumps. However, I guess if they really were, Microsoft would
have shut them down since they actually have offices (in Nashville, TN
I think) rather than some .com in Pakistan or China. Hmmm...

Kael
Yep

2004-01-17, 1:24 am

I think it boils down to being a MS Partner,which gives
you permission to do things that other non affiliates
cannot.Integrity is not the scale used to measure
anything.What is important in my experience is to get what
you need for the least or most reasonable price.But
then,here we go again,the integrity of the product is not
verifiable until you've invested other funds in
testing,etc.It's a wonder anybody can get truly certified
in less time than it takes to get a BA online.
>-----Original Message-----
>"AntiMCGNP Fag Patrol"

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>Oops...sorry about that. I think I read it too fast when

I first read
>it, and didn't catch what you meant at first.
>
>Yeah, you're right. Legitimate study resources are

definately
>relative and subjective. I've never used measureup or

STS (both
>endorsed by MS the last I read)...I've primarily used

Transender. My
>training center endorses and sells Transcenders, and have

found them
>pretty good...although they can be a bit "too" close to

the actual
>exams (at least the ones I took for VB 6.) I don't know

quite how I
>feel about them as you can argue that Transcenders are

legal
>braindumps. However, I guess if they really were,

Microsoft would
>have shut them down since they actually have offices (in

Nashville, TN
>I think) rather than some .com in Pakistan or China.

Hmmm...
>
>Kael
>.
>

The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-21, 8:24 am

>And the concept of a "legitimate" IT study
>guide/test question site is relative at best.That's why I
>discouraged them all.


The worth of the certs has nosed dived, while the number of these
sites has ballooned.

They all help undermine the worth of the certification process. There
are so many sites which posts 'sample' questions and answers which are
similar to the real questions. As such people simply search around
web, read the answers and are able to deduce the correct answers in
the real exam without having to understand the questions.

I understand that microsoft are 'reviewing' the format of the exams,
but can't see them changing it to include more a pratical/lab based
approach which would require a greater level of understanding in order
pass. So, in the eyes of an employer, ms exams are below 'entry level'
and mean nothing.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
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