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| Tonny René Poulsen 2003-04-30, 4:23 pm |
| I've begun the hard work with 70-228 and 70-229, and i wonder if those exams
should be studied simultanously or if 70-228 should be first.
nb.
From my mentor: He states that the SQL's is the hardest exams of all the
MCSE exams! Can anyone confirm this?
Regards
Tonny
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| "Tonny René Poulsen" <2003@pc.dk> wrote in message
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> I've begun the hard work with 70-228 and 70-229, and i wonder if those
exams
> should be studied simultanously or if 70-228 should be first.
There's some overlap, but I would recommend doing these exams one at a time.
I don't think there's enough redundant material to make it worthwhile to
prepare for them together, unless you're already pretty experienced and just
doing minimal brush up for the exams.
> From my mentor: He states that the SQL's is the hardest exams of all the
> MCSE exams! Can anyone confirm this?
I agree with it. I've been doing full time development work with SQL Server
for many years - starting with version 4.21. While I haven't had difficulty
passing any of the SQL Server exams, I've also passed the NT4 and Windows
2000 MCSE exams primarily with a few weeks of book learning for each. I
don't think the SQL Server exams are passable with so little effort.
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| Tonny René Poulsen 2003-05-01, 4:23 am |
| Hi Tim. Thanks for the advice.
Well i've been at it since SQL 6.5, so i have working experience with it.
I started myt track in november and so far i've passed 5 exams. Just missing
those two to get the big one.
Appreciate your response.
Have a nice one
regards Tonny
"Tim" <spammers@begone> skrev i en meddelelse
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> "Tonny René Poulsen" <2003@pc.dk> wrote in message
> news:OQGCPd1DDHA.28568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I've begun the hard work with 70-228 and 70-229, and i wonder if those
> exams
> > should be studied simultanously or if 70-228 should be first.
>
> There's some overlap, but I would recommend doing these exams one at a
time.
> I don't think there's enough redundant material to make it worthwhile to
> prepare for them together, unless you're already pretty experienced and
just
> doing minimal brush up for the exams.
>
> > From my mentor: He states that the SQL's is the hardest exams of all the
> > MCSE exams! Can anyone confirm this?
>
> I agree with it. I've been doing full time development work with SQL
Server
> for many years - starting with version 4.21. While I haven't had
difficulty
> passing any of the SQL Server exams, I've also passed the NT4 and Windows
> 2000 MCSE exams primarily with a few weeks of book learning for each. I
> don't think the SQL Server exams are passable with so little effort.
>
>
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| Tonny, I would agree with Tim. From a developers angle, I=20
took the 229 (Designing/developing DB) first, and am now=20
scheduling the 228 test. From my experience, 229 helps=20
out with 228, and they should be approached separately.
Brian McClintock, MCSD
>-----Original Message-----
>"Tonny Ren=E9 Poulsen" <2003@pc.dk> wrote in message
>news:OQGCPd1DDHA.28568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> I've begun the hard work with 70-228 and 70-229, and i=20
wonder if those
>exams
>> should be studied simultanously or if 70-228 should be=20
first.
>
>There's some overlap, but I would recommend doing these=20
exams one at a time.
>I don't think there's enough redundant material to make=20
it worthwhile to
>prepare for them together, unless you're already pretty=20
experienced and just
>doing minimal brush up for the exams.
>
>> From my mentor: He states that the SQL's is the hardest=20
exams of all the
>> MCSE exams! Can anyone confirm this?
>
>I agree with it. I've been doing full time development=20
work with SQL Server
>for many years - starting with version 4.21. While I=20
haven't had difficulty
>passing any of the SQL Server exams, I've also passed the=20
NT4 and Windows
>2000 MCSE exams primarily with a few weeks of book=20
learning for each. I
>don't think the SQL Server exams are passable with so=20
little effort.
>
>
>.
>
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| Andrew Taranto 2003-05-02, 10:24 am |
| Tim wrote:
>> I've begun the hard work with 70-228 and 70-229, and i
wonder if those
>exams
>> should be studied simultanously or if 70-228 should be
first.
>
>There's some overlap, but I would recommend doing these
exams one at a time.
>I don't think there's enough redundant material to make
it worthwhile to
>prepare for them together, unless you're already pretty
experienced and just
>doing minimal brush up for the exams.
>
I'm finding that preparing for both simultaneously helps.
I should note that I'm giving a little more weight to
229, as that's what I plan to take first. But dedicating
some time to 228 helps flesh out areas where my 229 study
materials are sparser (e.g., security, replication).
I think it depends a lot on one's learning style. I tend
to prefer a big picture view of something before I hone
in on the details. That's to say: if I'm studying
something, I find myself tempted to move to studying from
a broader perspective than a narrower.
Perhaps as the test date rolls around, I'll give less --
if not 0 -- weight to 228.
>> From my mentor: He states that the SQL's is the
hardest exams of all the
>> MCSE exams! Can anyone confirm this?
>
>I agree with it. I've been doing full time development
work with SQL Server
>for many years - starting with version 4.21. While I
haven't had difficulty
>passing any of the SQL Server exams, I've also passed
the NT4 and Windows
>2000 MCSE exams primarily with a few weeks of book
learning for each. I
>don't think the SQL Server exams are passable with so
little effort.
>
>
That's encouraging. So when it comes time to take 215 (or
the 2003 equivalent), it'll be a cakewalk, eh? :-I
On that note, can anyone comment on how 229/228 compare
to the MCAD/MCSD .Net tests, in terms of difficulty?
Andrew Taranto
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| "Andrew Taranto" <ataranto@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> That's encouraging. So when it comes time to take 215 (or
> the 2003 equivalent), it'll be a cakewalk, eh? :-I
I think so. I didn't take 215, but I took 240 which was clearly divided into
mini versions of 210, 215, 216, and 217, and 216 was the only section that
seemed at all difficult.
> On that note, can anyone comment on how 229/228 compare
> to the MCAD/MCSD .Net tests, in terms of difficulty?
Again, actual difficulty will depend mostly on your prior experience, but
assuming equivalent expertise, I think most of the C# and VB.Net exams are
not very difficult - comparable to the Windows 2000 MCSE exams. The
exceptions would be the 310/320 exams, which I think are more difficult than
most, but probably a little easier than the SQL exams.
Keep in mind that in addition to all the subjectivity of opinions like this,
passing scores for exams have varied more than 200 points in the past. So
while I may find one exam 'easy' because I'm sure I scored over 900 on it
and another 'hard' because I'm worried I barely got a 700, it may be the
case that I passed both by similar margins. Since we don't get scores any
more, it's even more difficult to comment on the difficulty of *passing* an
exam, which is probably of more interest than the general difficulty in
answering all of its questions correctly.
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| Robbin 2003-05-10, 8:23 am |
| It is certainly not a pleasure trip. The 70-228/70-028 is=20
all right, the 70-229/70-029 is you're real worry (if you=20
are an administrator and not a programmer, otherwise vice=20
versa).
But you can take them togethher if you studied good and=20
made a lot of questions. The exams are very different,=20
design is a lot of statements. I have taken them a week=20
from each other.
But back than I did a lot more at home and it was more=20
fun.=20
greetings
Robbin
>-----Original Message-----
>"Tonny Ren=E9 Poulsen" <2003@pc.dk> wrote in message
>news:OQGCPd1DDHA.28568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> I've begun the hard work with 70-228 and 70-229, and i=20
wonder if those
>exams
>> should be studied simultanously or if 70-228 should be=20
first.
>
>There's some overlap, but I would recommend doing these=20
exams one at a time.
>I don't think there's enough redundant material to make=20
it worthwhile to
>prepare for them together, unless you're already pretty=20
experienced and just
>doing minimal brush up for the exams.
>
>> From my mentor: He states that the SQL's is the hardest=20
exams of all the
>> MCSE exams! Can anyone confirm this?
>
>I agree with it. I've been doing full time development=20
work with SQL Server
>for many years - starting with version 4.21. While I=20
haven't had difficulty
>passing any of the SQL Server exams, I've also passed the=20
NT4 and Windows
>2000 MCSE exams primarily with a few weeks of book=20
learning for each. I
>don't think the SQL Server exams are passable with so=20
little effort.
>
>
>.
>
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| Nay Myo Aung 2003-05-14, 6:23 am |
| I will echo what others have said. If you are a programmer, start off with
70-229, or if you are an administrator, go for 70-228. There is significance
difference between the focus of 70-229 and 70-228, the former focuses more
on T-SQL language and latter focuses more on administration (mostly using
lots of wizards).
I don't think it will be a good idea to do them both at the same time. You
should choose one of them based on your background and finish it first.
As for me, I started off with 70-229 since my background is in programming.
regards,
Nay Myo Aung
MCP, MCSD, MCDBA & MCT
"Tonny René Poulsen" <2003@pc.dk> wrote in message
news:OQGCPd1DDHA.28568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I've begun the hard work with 70-228 and 70-229, and i wonder if those
exams
> should be studied simultanously or if 70-228 should be first.
>
> nb.
>
> From my mentor: He states that the SQL's is the hardest exams of all the
> MCSE exams! Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Regards
> Tonny
>
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