alt.certification.a-plus - I'm a bit confused

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I'm a bit confused

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

I have a computer that I need to add a CD-RW to...

Here is their configuration:

Hard drive is on the primary IDE port as the primary Master... it's on
it's own connection.

The CD-ROM drive is on the secondary IDE port as the secondary
Master.... this is also on it's own connection.

Wouldn't it be best if I connected the CD-ROM drive to the hard drive
and made the CD-ROM drive the primary slave and then put the cd burner
on it's own on the secondary IDE port and made it the secondary
Master?

Also, I'm a bit confused about the audio cable... how would I connect
an audio cable to the cd burner from the sound card if the CD-ROM
drive is using the audio cable? I mean do they have audio cables with
the Y so that I can connect them both? I actually never thought of
this...

Patrick Michael

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"LadyTech" <nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote in message
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>I have a computer that I need to add a CD-RW to...
>
> Here is their configuration:
>
> Hard drive is on the primary IDE port as the primary Master... it's on
> it's own connection.
>
> The CD-ROM drive is on the secondary IDE port as the secondary
> Master.... this is also on it's own connection.
>
> Wouldn't it be best if I connected the CD-ROM drive to the hard drive
> and made the CD-ROM drive the primary slave and then put the cd burner
> on it's own on the secondary IDE port and made it the secondary
> Master?

I'd just make the CD-RW the secondary master, and the CD-ROM the secondary
slave. Depending on the length of your IDE cables and the placement of the
drives in the case, it might be hard (if not impossible) to connect an
optical drive and a hard drive on the same cable/channel.

I'd save the space on the primary slave for a future hard drive, as the
primary might be the only channel with an 80-pin ribbon, which again depends
on how your system is set up.

> Also, I'm a bit confused about the audio cable... how would I connect
> an audio cable to the cd burner from the sound card if the CD-ROM
> drive is using the audio cable? I mean do they have audio cables with
> the Y so that I can connect them both? I actually never thought of
> this...

I wouldn't really worry about it too much. You can just set the drive to
"enable digital CD audio for this CD-ROM device" in the device manager. I
believe this is enabled by default anyway. Some soundcards might have 2 or
more analog inputs, but I don't even bother to connect them on any of the
systems I built for myself. I'm surprised drives even come with them any
more

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"Patrick Michael" <heismanpat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I'd just make the CD-RW the secondary master, and the CD-ROM the
secondary
> slave. Depending on the length of your IDE cables and the placement
of the
> drives in the case, it might be hard (if not impossible) to connect
an
> optical drive and a hard drive on the same cable/channel.
>

Ooops, I forgot all about this..... the primary on this system IS the
only channel that uses an 80-pin ribbon... I was thinking 40-pin.....
good thing you reminded me :-)

> I'd save the space on the primary slave for a future hard drive, as
the
> primary might be the only channel with an 80-pin ribbon, which again
depends
> on how your system is set up.
>
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> I wouldn't really worry about it too much. You can just set the
drive to
> "enable digital CD audio for this CD-ROM device" in the device
manager. I
> believe this is enabled by default anyway. Some soundcards might
have 2 or
> more analog inputs, but I don't even bother to connect them on any
of the
> systems I built for myself. I'm surprised drives even come with
them any
> more
>
>

Good enough.... I won't worry too much about it then :-)

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

I would connect the cdrw as the secondary master, the cdrom as the secondary
slave and connect the audio cable directly to the cdrw.

thats how I do it anyway.
"LadyTech" <nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote in message
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> "Patrick Michael" <heismanpat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> it's on
> drive
> burner
> secondary
> of the
> an
>
> Ooops, I forgot all about this..... the primary on this system IS the
> only channel that uses an 80-pin ribbon... I was thinking 40-pin.....
> good thing you reminded me :-)
>
> the
> depends
> connect
> with
> drive to
> manager. I
> have 2 or
> of the
> them any
>
> Good enough.... I won't worry too much about it then :-)
>
>

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

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> I would connect the cdrw as the secondary master, the cdrom as the
secondary
> slave and connect the audio cable directly to the cdrw.
>
> thats how I do it anyway.

This is what I am going to do.... I was only a bit confused at first
because the installation sheet that came with it (CD-RW) was telling
me that I HAVE to have it on it's own channel and I was thinking that
I don't actually HAVE to.... I just thought I'd ask first :-)

Barry Watzman

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

In theory, any connection should work, but I'd put the CD-RW as the
Master drive on the secondary port. There are a few burning
applications that expect the burner to the a "Master" drive. Also, if
speed is an issue (it usually isn't these days), it's better if the hard
drive and the burner are on different IDE channels.

The audio cable from an optical drive is used for analog playback. Most
sound cards have only one "cd-rom" input, but many computers have
multiple optical drives. Pick the one that you want to use (if you have
other inputs, such as "Aux", you may be able to use more than one).
Since most "player" programs today do digital playback anyway, which
doesn't even use this cable, it's actually a fairly insignificant point
in most cases.

[digital playback -- read the audio information as DATA, via the ide
interface, and decode it to a wave file in software.]

LadyTech wrote:

> I have a computer that I need to add a CD-RW to...
>
> Here is their configuration:
>
> Hard drive is on the primary IDE port as the primary Master... it's on
> it's own connection.
>
> The CD-ROM drive is on the secondary IDE port as the secondary
> Master.... this is also on it's own connection.
>
> Wouldn't it be best if I connected the CD-ROM drive to the hard drive
> and made the CD-ROM drive the primary slave and then put the cd burner
> on it's own on the secondary IDE port and made it the secondary
> Master?
>
> Also, I'm a bit confused about the audio cable... how would I connect
> an audio cable to the cd burner from the sound card if the CD-ROM
> drive is using the audio cable? I mean do they have audio cables with
> the Y so that I can connect them both? I actually never thought of
> this...
>
>
>
>

Barry Watzman

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

You can put an 80 conductor cable on the secondary channel. However,
the data rate from optical drives -- even DVD drives -- isn't high
enough to make this an issue.

By the way, on the other point, you SHOULD NOT try to use a "Y" cable
for the analog audio connections. You would be connecting two outputs
together, with undesireable results and possibly even damage.

LadyTech wrote:

>
> Ooops, I forgot all about this..... the primary on this system IS the
> only channel that uses an 80-pin ribbon... I was thinking 40-pin.....
> good thing you reminded me :-)
>
>

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> You can put an 80 conductor cable on the secondary channel.
However,
> the data rate from optical drives -- even DVD drives -- isn't high
> enough to make this an issue.
>
> By the way, on the other point, you SHOULD NOT try to use a "Y"
cable
> for the analog audio connections. You would be connecting two
outputs
> together, with undesireable results and possibly even damage.
>
>

Nope I wasn't going to do it that way anyway with a "Y" cable. I am
going to connect it to the burner instead of the CD-ROM drive...
logical thinking made me think about the connecting two outputs
together more than likely WOULD make undesireable results so I wasn't
going to do it that way.

I haven't had time to install the burner yet because everytime I make
plans to do it something at home comes up.... my bird was sick and he
comes first :-)

Tom MacIntyre

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:02:09 -0500, "LadyTech"
<nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote:

>"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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>However,
>cable
>outputs
>
>Nope I wasn't going to do it that way anyway with a "Y" cable. I am
>going to connect it to the burner instead of the CD-ROM drive...
>logical thinking made me think about the connecting two outputs
>together more than likely WOULD make undesireable results so I wasn't
>going to do it that way.
>
>I haven't had time to install the burner yet because everytime I make
>plans to do it something at home comes up.... my bird was sick and he
>comes first :-)
>

Budgie?

Tom

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:02:09 -0500, "LadyTech"
> <nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote:
>
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>
> Budgie?
>
> Tom

Cockatiel....

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

Patrick Michael

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"LadyTech" <nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote in message
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> I installed the cd burner with no problem, but every time I open up
> "PlexTools" I get an error message "wnaspi32.dll version 1.0.0
> detected." "This version can cause unpredictable behavior in certain
> components" then it says to update the ASPI layer.... should contact
> Plextor, huh?

Not sure but maybe one of these updates would fix it?
http://www.plextools.com/download/download.asp

Barry Watzman

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

Normally, the ASPI layer is a Roxio or Adaptec component.

LadyTech wrote:

> "LadyTech" <nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote in message
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>
> on
>
>
> drive
>
>
> burner
>
>
> connect
>
>
> with
>
>
>
> I installed the cd burner with no problem, but every time I open up
> "PlexTools" I get an error message "wnaspi32.dll version 1.0.0
> detected." "This version can cause unpredictable behavior in certain
> components" then it says to update the ASPI layer.... should contact
> Plextor, huh?
>
>

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Normally, the ASPI layer is a Roxio or Adaptec component.
>
>
I know. I found a prog called "ForceASPI" and was thinking of using it
and hopefully it will solve the problem.... Now I see why they wanted
me to install the burner :-)

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"Patrick Michael" <heismanpat@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "LadyTech" <nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote in message
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> Not sure but maybe one of these updates would fix it?
> http://www.plextools.com/download/download.asp
>
>

Thank you for the link... I will check it out :-)

Tom MacIntyre

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:41:18 -0500, "LadyTech"
<nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote:

>"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>make
>he
>
>Cockatiel....
>

How's he/she doing? We have had budgies, and they are quite fragile,
especially their respiratory systems.

Tom

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:41:18 -0500, "LadyTech"
> <nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote:
>
>
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>
> How's he/she doing? We have had budgies, and they are quite fragile,
> especially their respiratory systems.
>
> Tom

I left you a post just below... it says "Re: I'm a bit confused/
Tom"..... He's doing fine... I thought he was losing his feathers due
to a disease or he was feather plucking... it was neither.... he was
moulting *LOL*. I've had Budgies and Cockatiels before, but they never
lost the feathers like this one did. I took him to the Vet the next
day.... Yes they are very fragile... I don't allow smoking in my house
:-)

Tom MacIntyre

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 16:33:07 -0500, "LadyTech"
<nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote:

>"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>and
>
>I left you a post just below... it says "Re: I'm a bit confused/
>Tom"..... He's doing fine... I thought he was losing his feathers due
>to a disease or he was feather plucking... it was neither.... he was
>moulting *LOL*. I've had Budgies and Cockatiels before, but they never
>lost the feathers like this one did. I took him to the Vet the next
>day.... Yes they are very fragile... I don't allow smoking in my house
>:-)
>

We had two budgies awhile back...massive rain and basement flooding
one day, followed by mould infestation. I don't need to tell you the
rest, and they weren't even in the basement.. :-(

Tom

LadyTech

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> We had two budgies awhile back...massive rain and basement flooding
> one day, followed by mould infestation. I don't need to tell you the
> rest, and they weren't even in the basement.. :-(
>
> Tom

That's too bad.... I guess you always have to be careful about
everything.... here we have to deal with the cold weather and some
people just leaving the door open too long when they come into the
house.... cold drafts.

I think I may have fixed the ASPI layer problem because after what I
did, I don't get the wsnaspi32.dll error anymore. I went into Add New
Hardware and then installed a scsi host adapter from the Win98 CD
after that I then installed an upgrade for the ASPI layer that I
downloaded earlier.... it all works, except now I have a yellow
exclamation mark in my device manager under scsi controller, probably
because there actually isn't a scsi controller *LOL*... At least now
everything works :-)

Tom MacIntyre

2005-04-06, 2:27 pm

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:36:48 -0500, "LadyTech"
<nomailplease@invalid.4myprivacy.com> wrote:

>"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fhjbt01ab9385fs91v3jt9ht2
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>
>That's too bad.... I guess you always have to be careful about
>everything.... here we have to deal with the cold weather and some
>people just leaving the door open too long when they come into the
>house.... cold drafts.

Strange though...the same 2 budgies were left in an unheated house for
about 24 hours (we were moving, it was late November, and we were hit
by a huge snowstorm overnight), and survived...the power was out for
24 or more hours, and we ended up only losing 2 of 30+ fish in an
aquarium. The house was about 5 degrees Celsius or lower by the time I
could get back. There they were, with their feathers all fluffed out,
not knowing that another foe would claim them in less than a year.

>
>I think I may have fixed the ASPI layer problem because after what I
>did, I don't get the wsnaspi32.dll error anymore. I went into Add New
>Hardware and then installed a scsi host adapter from the Win98 CD
>after that I then installed an upgrade for the ASPI layer that I
>downloaded earlier.... it all works, except now I have a yellow
>exclamation mark in my device manager under scsi controller, probably
>because there actually isn't a scsi controller *LOL*... At least now
>everything works :-)
>

Thanks for getting us back on-topic. :-)

Tom

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