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| Here is the problem...Windows has seemed to be acting up lately so last week I reformatted my HD. You all already know that when you load Windows back onto the HD that it will restart the computer twice during the installation process, well at one time during one of the startups it booted into Safe Mode (I thought that this was weird, but anyway, I went to Start and hit Restart) after that the installation went okay until the next restart. After the next restart I get an illegal operations box. I clicked close and then there was nothing in the blue screen to the right of the screen, no writing like it usually shows, so I restarted the computer and the installation went fine after that. Then I restarted the computer after a while and just before it went to restart I get another illegal operations box, I clicked that closed and then the computer restarted okay. So far everything has been fine, but it's just that this has been bugging me and has been making me wonder why it did this. Has anyone else had this happen to them? The OS is Windows 98SE.
Kathy
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| Hydroman 2003-07-22, 4:24 pm |
| The system may have shutdown prematurely the first time and when it does
a key gets entered into the registry which will cause the error to persist.
Go into the registry and find the key under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SOFTWARE
DESCRIPTION
MICROSOFT
RPC
UUIDPERSISTENTDATA
On the right-hand side you will see a LastTimeAllocated key. Click on it and delete it.
If the error reoccurs then go back into the registry to see if the key is back, if it is then
it's a Microsoft problem with the O/S. I would suggest rebuilding the HD formatting the
harddrive with a /U switch with is Unconditional then see if you get errors.
--
Larry
budd72@comcast.net
A+ and MCP certified
Kathy <computermonkeyNOSPAM@inbox.net> wrote in message news:vhquvqrbmp2fdf@corp.supernews.com...
Here is the problem...Windows has seemed to be acting up lately so last week I reformatted my HD. You all already know that when you load Windows back onto the HD that it will restart the computer twice during the installation process, well at one time during one of the startups it booted into Safe Mode (I thought that this was weird, but anyway, I went to Start and hit Restart) after that the installation went okay until the next restart. After the next restart I get an illegal operations box. I clicked close and then there was nothing in the blue screen to the right of the screen, no writing like it usually shows, so I restarted the computer and the installation went fine after that. Then I restarted the computer after a while and just before it went to restart I get another illegal operations box, I clicked that closed and then the computer restarted okay. So far everything has been fine, but it's just that this has been bugging me and has been making me wonder why it did this. Has anyone else had this happen to them? The OS is Windows 98SE.
Kathy
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| Thanks. I'm not comfortable with the registry because I haven't done much in it, but I have to get used to it sometime, huh?
When you say rebuilding the HD, you do mean reformatting, right?
Thanks again,
Kathy
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"Hydroman" <hydroman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1-WdnQaSw8bRB4CiU-KYvg@comcast.com...
The system may have shutdown prematurely the first time and when it does
a key gets entered into the registry which will cause the error to persist.
Go into the registry and find the key under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SOFTWARE
DESCRIPTION
MICROSOFT
RPC
UUIDPERSISTENTDATA
On the right-hand side you will see a LastTimeAllocated key. Click on it and delete it.
If the error reoccurs then go back into the registry to see if the key is back, if it is then
it's a Microsoft problem with the O/S. I would suggest rebuilding the HD formatting the
harddrive with a /U switch with is Unconditional then see if you get errors.
--
Larry
budd72@comcast.net
A+ and MCP certified
Kathy <computermonkeyNOSPAM@inbox.net> wrote in message news:vhquvqrbmp2fdf@corp.supernews.com...
Here is the problem...Windows has seemed to be acting up lately so last week I reformatted my HD. You all already know that when you load Windows back onto the HD that it will restart the computer twice during the installation process, well at one time during one of the startups it booted into Safe Mode (I thought that this was weird, but anyway, I went to Start and hit Restart) after that the installation went okay until the next restart. After the next restart I get an illegal operations box. I clicked close and then there was nothing in the blue screen to the right of the screen, no writing like it usually shows, so I restarted the computer and the installation went fine after that. Then I restarted the computer after a while and just before it went to restart I get another illegal operations box, I clicked that closed and then the computer restarted okay. So far everything has been fine, but it's just that this has been bugging me and has been making me wonder why it did this. Has anyone else had this happen to them? The OS is Windows 98SE.
Kathy
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| Hydroman 2003-07-24, 12:23 am |
| format the harddrive like this: FORMAT C:/U /S U is for Unconditional and S is to transfer system files
Kathy <computermonkeyNOSPAM@inbox.net> wrote in message news:vhrhpks9eph44a@corp.supernews.com...
Thanks. I'm not comfortable with the registry because I haven't done much in it, but I have to get used to it sometime, huh?
When you say rebuilding the HD, you do mean reformatting, right?
Thanks again,
Kathy
A+
"Hydroman" <hydroman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:1-WdnQaSw8bRB4CiU-KYvg@comcast.com...
The system may have shutdown prematurely the first time and when it does
a key gets entered into the registry which will cause the error to persist.
Go into the registry and find the key under:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
SOFTWARE
DESCRIPTION
MICROSOFT
RPC
UUIDPERSISTENTDATA
On the right-hand side you will see a LastTimeAllocated key. Click on it and delete it.
If the error reoccurs then go back into the registry to see if the key is back, if it is then
it's a Microsoft problem with the O/S. I would suggest rebuilding the HD formatting the
harddrive with a /U switch with is Unconditional then see if you get errors.
--
Larry
budd72@comcast.net
A+ and MCP certified
Kathy <computermonkeyNOSPAM@inbox.net> wrote in message news:vhquvqrbmp2fdf@corp.supernews.com...
Here is the problem...Windows has seemed to be acting up lately so last week I reformatted my HD. You all already know that when you load Windows back onto the HD that it will restart the computer twice during the installation process, well at one time during one of the startups it booted into Safe Mode (I thought that this was weird, but anyway, I went to Start and hit Restart) after that the installation went okay until the next restart. After the next restart I get an illegal operations box. I clicked close and then there was nothing in the blue screen to the right of the screen, no writing like it usually shows, so I restarted the computer and the installation went fine after that. Then I restarted the computer after a while and just before it went to restart I get another illegal operations box, I clicked that closed and then the computer restarted okay. So far everything has been fine, but it's just that this has been bugging me and has been making me wonder why it did this. Has anyone else had this happen to them? The OS is Windows 98SE.
Kathy
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| ImhoTech 2003-07-24, 9:24 am |
| Hey Kathy,
I hesitated to respond for the simple reason that its very hard to guess after the fact what caused it, but considering the bad advice offered so far. The issue you had was caused by a hardware/driver/resource problem. Pretty vague huh? Pretty hard to narrow it down more without having done the install. Could have been bad hardware, not likely since it did eventually get up and running. A corrupt or incorrect driver installed by windows, again this one should still be evident, if everythings working correctly and no ! in device manager, probably not the issue. Probably was a resource conflict during the install. Some hardware requires specific resources and can't be modified, some hardware is very flexible, once in while there are problems on an install if the more flexible hardware is assigned resources by windows that are needed by hardware that require specific resource settings. The hardware detection phase usually can sort it out, but you do have blue screens or other errors once in while.
The whole format /U bit is nearly never neccesary and certainly not in your case, with the computer up and running. In rare instances it may help on install that you can't complete successfully.
Nor is that registry edit neccesary. The bottom line is your install was successful !
"Kathy" <computermonkeyNOSPAM@inbox.net> wrote in message news:vhquvqrbmp2fdf@corp.supernews.com...
Here is the problem...Windows has seemed to be acting up lately so last week I reformatted my HD. You all already know that when you load Windows back onto the HD that it will restart the computer twice during the installation process, well at one time during one of the startups it booted into Safe Mode (I thought that this was weird, but anyway, I went to Start and hit Restart) after that the installation went okay until the next restart. After the next restart I get an illegal operations box. I clicked close and then there was nothing in the blue screen to the right of the screen, no writing like it usually shows, so I restarted the computer and the installation went fine after that. Then I restarted the computer after a while and just before it went to restart I get another illegal operations box, I clicked that closed and then the computer restarted okay. So far everything has been fine, but it's just that this has been bugging me and has been making me wonder why it did this. Has anyone else had this happen to them? The OS is Windows 98SE.
Kathy
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| Hi ImhoTech,
Thank you so much! I really appreciate how you explained these things. It makes things more clearly to me of what may have caused the problems. It's just the errors did bother me as to why it did that, so I guess it didn't hurt to ask after all.
Cheers,
Kathy
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"ImhoTech" <bobo@yodelers.net> wrote in message news:vhvmvdfk81vt3e@corp.supernews.com...
Hey Kathy,
I hesitated to respond for the simple reason that its very hard to guess after the fact what caused it, but considering the bad advice offered so far. The issue you had was caused by a hardware/driver/resource problem. Pretty vague huh? Pretty hard to narrow it down more without having done the install. Could have been bad hardware, not likely since it did eventually get up and running. A corrupt or incorrect driver installed by windows, again this one should still be evident, if everythings working correctly and no ! in device manager, probably not the issue. Probably was a resource conflict during the install. Some hardware requires specific resources and can't be modified, some hardware is very flexible, once in while there are problems on an install if the more flexible hardware is assigned resources by windows that are needed by hardware that require specific resource settings. The hardware detection phase usually can sort it out, but you do have blue screens or other errors once in while.
The whole format /U bit is nearly never neccesary and certainly not in your case, with the computer up and running. In rare instances it may help on install that you can't complete successfully.
Nor is that registry edit neccesary. The bottom line is your install was successful !
"Kathy" <computermonkeyNOSPAM@inbox.net> wrote in message news:vhquvqrbmp2fdf@corp.supernews.com...
Here is the problem...Windows has seemed to be acting up lately so last week I reformatted my HD. You all already know that when you load Windows back onto the HD that it will restart the computer twice during the installation process, well at one time during one of the startups it booted into Safe Mode (I thought that this was weird, but anyway, I went to Start and hit Restart) after that the installation went okay until the next restart. After the next restart I get an illegal operations box. I clicked close and then there was nothing in the blue screen to the right of the screen, no writing like it usually shows, so I restarted the computer and the installation went fine after that. Then I restarted the computer after a while and just before it went to restart I get another illegal operations box, I clicked that closed and then the computer restarted okay. So far everything has been fine, but it's just that this has been bugging me and has been making me wonder why it did this. Has anyone else had this happen to them? The OS is Windows 98SE.
Kathy
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