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| Jonnynse 2003-05-17, 5:23 pm |
| Hi all
My names Jonny. I live in Melbourne, Australia.
I passed the A+ a few weeks ago & was quite pleased with myself.
This is my chance to get into the IT industry, so I thought.
Been to a few IT employment agencies in Melbourne last week.
To my surprise, I was asked "What's A+!" by the employment agencies I
attended. Has anyone out there had that kind of response ? I also visited a
company who are a Microsoft Certified Partner. They didn't know who CompTIA
were & what's an A+ ???
This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job anywhere
once I was A+ Certified ?
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| Andy Barkl 2003-05-17, 7:24 pm |
| "Jonnynse" <knowone@knowere.com> wrote in message
news:3ec6a8c3$0$13060$afc38c87
@news.optusnet.com.au...
> This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job
anywhere
> once I was A+ Certified ?
ROFLMAO!
What's your experience in computers Jonny- it's what counts!
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| Barry Watzman 2003-05-17, 11:24 pm |
| That's bizarre for anyone who does a significant amount of IT or
technology recruiting.
Of course, a "general" recuiter who doesn't do much with IT
professionals might well not know A+ ..... or MCSE or lots of other
industry acronyms.
Jonnynse wrote:
> Hi all
> My names Jonny. I live in Melbourne, Australia.
> I passed the A+ a few weeks ago & was quite pleased with myself.
> This is my chance to get into the IT industry, so I thought.
> Been to a few IT employment agencies in Melbourne last week.
> To my surprise, I was asked "What's A+!" by the employment agencies I
> attended. Has anyone out there had that kind of response ? I also visited a
> company who are a Microsoft Certified Partner. They didn't know who CompTIA
> were & what's an A+ ???
> This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job anywhere
> once I was A+ Certified ?
>
>
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| John D. 2003-05-18, 1:23 am |
| Sounds like you did absolutely zero research re: the A+ in Australia.
Then why are you so surprised?
John D.
"Jonnynse" <knowone@knowere.com> wrote in message news:< 3ec6a8c3$0$13060$afc38c87@news
.optusnet.com.au>...
> Hi all
> My names Jonny. I live in Melbourne, Australia.
> I passed the A+ a few weeks ago & was quite pleased with myself.
> This is my chance to get into the IT industry, so I thought.
> Been to a few IT employment agencies in Melbourne last week.
> To my surprise, I was asked "What's A+!" by the employment agencies I
> attended. Has anyone out there had that kind of response ? I also visited a
> company who are a Microsoft Certified Partner. They didn't know who CompTIA
> were & what's an A+ ???
> This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job anywhere
> once I was A+ Certified ?
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| Sundog1966 2003-05-18, 7:23 am |
| Quick! Everyone to Austrialia, we will mount a surprise take over usng
the A+ as our weapon! They will never see us coming, all those poor
unceritfied Austrailians! ROFLMAO!
On 17 May 2003 22:28:51 -0700, jcdech@hotmail.com (John D.) wrote:
>Sounds like you did absolutely zero research re: the A+ in Australia.
>
>Then why are you so surprised?
>
>John D.
>
>
>
>"Jonnynse" <knowone@knowere.com> wrote in message news:< 3ec6a8c3$0$13060$afc38c87@news
.optusnet.com.au>...
>> Hi all
>> My names Jonny. I live in Melbourne, Australia.
>> I passed the A+ a few weeks ago & was quite pleased with myself.
>> This is my chance to get into the IT industry, so I thought.
>> Been to a few IT employment agencies in Melbourne last week.
>> To my surprise, I was asked "What's A+!" by the employment agencies I
>> attended. Has anyone out there had that kind of response ? I also visited a
>> company who are a Microsoft Certified Partner. They didn't know who CompTIA
>> were & what's an A+ ???
>> This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job anywhere
>> once I was A+ Certified ?
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| tigger 2003-05-18, 10:23 am |
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"Sundog1966" <sundog1966@sympatico.com> wrote in message
news:6trecv0v0pv7jt606gr0i2cas
jc0fjen48@4ax.com...
> Quick! Everyone to Austrialia, we will mount a surprise take over usng
> the A+ as our weapon! They will never see us coming, all those poor
> unceritfied Austrailians! ROFLMAO!
> On 17 May 2003 22:28:51 -0700, jcdech@hotmail.com (John D.) wrote:
>
> >Sounds like you did absolutely zero research re: the A+ in Australia.
> >
> >Then why are you so surprised?
> >
> >John D.
> >
> >
> >
> >"Jonnynse" <knowone@knowere.com> wrote in message
news:< 3ec6a8c3$0$13060$afc38c87@news
.optusnet.com.au>... [colo
r=darkred]
> >> Hi all
> >> My names Jonny. I live in Melbourne, Australia.
> >> I passed the A+ a few weeks ago & was quite pleased with myself.
> >> This is my chance to get into the IT industry, so I thought.
> >> Been to a few IT employment agencies in Melbourne last week.
> >> To my surprise, I was asked "What's A+!" by the employment agencies I
> >> attended. Has anyone out there had that kind of response ? I also[/color]
visited a[col
or=darkred]
> >> company who are a Microsoft Certified Partner. They didn't know who[/color]
CompTIA
> >> were & what's an A+ ???
> >> This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job
anywhere
> >> once I was A+ Certified ?
>
Johnny,
I had the same thing happen to me here in the UK, one or two agencies didn`t
know what the A+ was, i have also been asked by a so called IT solutions
company what A+ was as well. Not surprising really then that the IT
iondustry in the UK is up sh!* creek without a paddle. I`m now working in a
different industry but am studying the MCSE track, it seems that people know
what that is !!!!!!!!
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| John D. 2003-05-18, 12:23 pm |
| Jonny,
I already mailed this to you but am posting it here for this thread:
Then Drake International lied? Or maybe innocently ignorant? Or maybe
they are hip to the scene but don't realize how backward the rest of
Australia is?
Here in the USA we have stores like BestBuy and Comp-USA (the two
major players locally in my city)...when you go in you see that they
have a PC tech department where guys do upgrades, fixes, diagnostics
and so on. Some years ago, I walked in to those two stores and asked
the store manager what qualifications were required to work in that
department as a PC Tech vs. working there as a salesperson. I was told
A+.
Went to a mom-and-pop computer store and after an informal "interview"
was going to get hired as a tech when they opened a store on the other
side of town even though I didn't have my A+.
The point is, I went in to the places I was thinking to work at and
ASKED what the requirements were.
If you did that where you live and the stores/companies didn't even
know what A+ is, then Australia is behind the times...as some UK
people have reported up there.
But getting the A+ -- if you want to do builds/repairs/upgrades and
such PC Tech work -- is NOT a waste of time as I suspect Australia
will catch up to the rest of the world and YOU will already have what
they start insisting on: A+ Certification. That also should put you
ahead of those applicants who do NOT. All else being equal, you'll be
more likely the one to be hired, not they.
Besides, even with what I'm doing on the side now -- fixing people's
computers, tutoring at my place or making house calls -- having the
A+ on my business card wuld give me some "hardcopy credentials" rather
than just words about expertise/experience I may have.
So get it...
John D.
"Jonnynse" <knowone@knowere.com> wrote in message news:< 3ec6a8c3$0$13060$afc38c87@news
.optusnet.com.au>...
> Hi all
> My names Jonny. I live in Melbourne, Australia.
> I passed the A+ a few weeks ago & was quite pleased with myself.
> This is my chance to get into the IT industry, so I thought.
> Been to a few IT employment agencies in Melbourne last week.
> To my surprise, I was asked "What's A+!" by the employment agencies I
> attended. Has anyone out there had that kind of response ? I also visited a
> company who are a Microsoft Certified Partner. They didn't know who CompTIA
> were & what's an A+ ???
> This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job anywhere
> once I was A+ Certified ?
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| Kathy 2003-05-18, 12:23 pm |
| John D.,
Working at a mom-and-pop shop helped get you somewhere? This is what I am
trying to do now is get into a mom-and-pop shop for starters. I already have
my A+, BUT I don't have the experience, only the knowledge. I think I will
have to do some convincing to get into one of these shops though. They seem
like they don't like the idea of "not much hands on experience", but in my
opinion, how do get the hands on experience if no one will hire you?
"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0305180830.1c78395d@posting.google.com...
> Jonny,
>
> I already mailed this to you but am posting it here for this thread:
>
>
>
> Then Drake International lied? Or maybe innocently ignorant? Or maybe
> they are hip to the scene but don't realize how backward the rest of
> Australia is?
>
> Here in the USA we have stores like BestBuy and Comp-USA (the two
> major players locally in my city)...when you go in you see that they
> have a PC tech department where guys do upgrades, fixes, diagnostics
> and so on. Some years ago, I walked in to those two stores and asked
> the store manager what qualifications were required to work in that
> department as a PC Tech vs. working there as a salesperson. I was told
> A+.
>
> Went to a mom-and-pop computer store and after an informal "interview"
> was going to get hired as a tech when they opened a store on the other
> side of town even though I didn't have my A+.
>
> The point is, I went in to the places I was thinking to work at and
> ASKED what the requirements were.
>
> If you did that where you live and the stores/companies didn't even
> know what A+ is, then Australia is behind the times...as some UK
> people have reported up there.
>
> But getting the A+ -- if you want to do builds/repairs/upgrades and
> such PC Tech work -- is NOT a waste of time as I suspect Australia
> will catch up to the rest of the world and YOU will already have what
> they start insisting on: A+ Certification. That also should put you
> ahead of those applicants who do NOT. All else being equal, you'll be
> more likely the one to be hired, not they.
>
> Besides, even with what I'm doing on the side now -- fixing people's
> computers, tutoring at my place or making house calls -- having the
> A+ on my business card wuld give me some "hardcopy credentials" rather
> than just words about expertise/experience I may have.
>
> So get it...
>
> John D.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jonnynse" <knowone@knowere.com> wrote in message
news:< 3ec6a8c3$0$13060$afc38c87@news
.optusnet.com.au>...
> > Hi all
> > My names Jonny. I live in Melbourne, Australia.
> > I passed the A+ a few weeks ago & was quite pleased with myself.
> > This is my chance to get into the IT industry, so I thought.
> > Been to a few IT employment agencies in Melbourne last week.
> > To my surprise, I was asked "What's A+!" by the employment agencies I
> > attended. Has anyone out there had that kind of response ? I also
visited a
> > company who are a Microsoft Certified Partner. They didn't know who
CompTIA
> > were & what's an A+ ???
> > This has left me a bit disorientated as I thought I could get a job
anywhere
> > once I was A+ Certified ?
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| John D. 2003-05-19, 12:23 pm |
| That's the same question in just about ANY field of employment.
But as I have said here before, if no one will hire you -- for
WHATEVER reason -- then hire yourself.
Try to start something on your own by yourself or get some fellow
"having trouble getting hired " A+ people together and approach the
problem together. If the group "team effort" works out informally --
doing people's computers at your "HQ" or making house calls -- then
take more serious action and make it an official business. I have seen
a group of "handymen" get together to field service calls and they
operate more efficiently that way...of course, they probably have more
work considering all that needs to be done with home repairs,
improvement, etc., but the concept still applies. I would do that on
my own but would have preferred a group effort, at least one person
fielding calls/making estimates/setting appointments and then *I* go
out and do the job.
The point is, I think it's about time to focus on YOU and doing
something on your own...not giving up getting employed -- still keep
trying -- but look into starting something on your own or with a
"partner" (loosely speaking) or two. Actually, being female, I would
think you have an EDGE over male techs...the "novelty" card that would
make you stand out...use it.
But weren't you going to apply to Comp-USA some time ago? Or was it
BestBuy? What happened to that? If they won't hire you, go down there
again and ask very loudly -- preferably in front of customers at the
counter -- if said store has a hiring policy that is discriminatory
in that they don't hire FEMALE PC Techs? If you're a BLACK female, it
should work even better...your subsequent lawsuit will set you up for
life so you won't need to worry about employment then. [just kidding]
How about the public school system in your city...they need PC Techs
for all those computers, don't they? Have you applied there? I
recently subbed at a local middle school for a Computer Literacy class
(boy, was THAT a bad day) and in one part of the room were stacks of
computers someone was working on...probably one of the disctrict's
techs...they DO have people that go to he schools on service calls, do
network stuff and solve Internet connectivity problems, etc..
How about a position at a school -- public, trade or otherwise --
where you can TEACH an A+ course? That would be good on the side.
So I would keep looking for an employer but would give more serious
thought starting something on my own.
Just keep trying, Kathy.
Good luck,
John D.
"Kathy" <justask@formyemail.com> wrote in message news:<vcfff4lem8eg27@corp.supernews.com>...
> John D.,
>
> Working at a mom-and-pop shop helped get you somewhere? This is what I am
> trying to do now is get into a mom-and-pop shop for starters. I already have
> my A+, BUT I don't have the experience, only the knowledge. I think I will
> have to do some convincing to get into one of these shops though. They seem
> like they don't like the idea of "not much hands on experience", but in my
> opinion, how do get the hands on experience if no one will hire you?
>
| |
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| Thanks for the info, John :-)
I have thought about doing it on my own, but I would rather work with a team
or another A+ individual because I still need the help.
As far as the school district, I tried that too, but they have their own
company that does everything.
Maybe I am the one that did mention CompUSA and Best Buy, BUT, they are
about 45 miles from my home one way, and you definately wouldn't want to
travel that far in the winter here in upstate NY.
No I am not a black female *LOL*, but it has accurred to me that maybe the
"female" thing has something to do with it, again, this could be just in my
head and they did seem to like me....another thing is my age, I'm 42 and
whenever I do go into these places all I see is young guys and again, I
think to myself that they don't want a "mother hen" around here, but like I
said before, this could be just in my head. This was a few years ago that I
tried getting into these places, so I think it's about time that I try
again. If it doesn't work, then I will try it on my own.
I really appreciate the response from you and these kinds of responses give
me encouragement :-)
Thanks again,
Kathy
"John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e821bab6.0305190853.299ea4ea@posting.google.com...
> That's the same question in just about ANY field of employment.
>
> But as I have said here before, if no one will hire you -- for
> WHATEVER reason -- then hire yourself.
>
> Try to start something on your own by yourself or get some fellow
> "having trouble getting hired " A+ people together and approach the
> problem together. If the group "team effort" works out informally --
> doing people's computers at your "HQ" or making house calls -- then
> take more serious action and make it an official business. I have seen
> a group of "handymen" get together to field service calls and they
> operate more efficiently that way...of course, they probably have more
> work considering all that needs to be done with home repairs,
> improvement, etc., but the concept still applies. I would do that on
> my own but would have preferred a group effort, at least one person
> fielding calls/making estimates/setting appointments and then *I* go
> out and do the job.
>
> The point is, I think it's about time to focus on YOU and doing
> something on your own...not giving up getting employed -- still keep
> trying -- but look into starting something on your own or with a
> "partner" (loosely speaking) or two. Actually, being female, I would
> think you have an EDGE over male techs...the "novelty" card that would
> make you stand out...use it.
>
> But weren't you going to apply to Comp-USA some time ago? Or was it
> BestBuy? What happened to that? If they won't hire you, go down there
> again and ask very loudly -- preferably in front of customers at the
> counter -- if said store has a hiring policy that is discriminatory
> in that they don't hire FEMALE PC Techs? If you're a BLACK female, it
> should work even better...your subsequent lawsuit will set you up for
> life so you won't need to worry about employment then. [just kidding]
>
> How about the public school system in your city...they need PC Techs
> for all those computers, don't they? Have you applied there? I
> recently subbed at a local middle school for a Computer Literacy class
> (boy, was THAT a bad day) and in one part of the room were stacks of
> computers someone was working on...probably one of the disctrict's
> techs...they DO have people that go to he schools on service calls, do
> network stuff and solve Internet connectivity problems, etc..
>
> How about a position at a school -- public, trade or otherwise --
> where you can TEACH an A+ course? That would be good on the side.
>
> So I would keep looking for an employer but would give more serious
> thought starting something on my own.
>
> Just keep trying, Kathy.
>
> Good luck,
>
> John D.
>
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| John D. 2003-05-19, 11:24 pm |
| Your'e welcome.
Yes, that's pretty far to drive in bad weather. Maybe you should move
to some apartment next door to one of those places! ;-)
As I see it, if you can get into BestBuy or Comp-USA you could work
for them for 1 year minimum or 2 years max and then do something on
your own...by then you'd have plenty of experience.
Then you can hire the rest of us!
John D.
"Kathy" <justask@formyemail.com> wrote in message news:<vcifbkb58njj26@corp.supernews.com>...
> Thanks for the info, John :-)
>
> I have thought about doing it on my own, but I would rather work with a team
> or another A+ individual because I still need the help.
>
> As far as the school district, I tried that too, but they have their own
> company that does everything.
>
> Maybe I am the one that did mention CompUSA and Best Buy, BUT, they are
> about 45 miles from my home one way, and you definately wouldn't want to
> travel that far in the winter here in upstate NY.
>
> No I am not a black female *LOL*, but it has accurred to me that maybe the
> "female" thing has something to do with it, again, this could be just in my
> head and they did seem to like me....another thing is my age, I'm 42 and
> whenever I do go into these places all I see is young guys and again, I
> think to myself that they don't want a "mother hen" around here, but like I
> said before, this could be just in my head. This was a few years ago that I
> tried getting into these places, so I think it's about time that I try
> again. If it doesn't work, then I will try it on my own.
>
> I really appreciate the response from you and these kinds of responses give
> me encouragement :-)
>
> Thanks again,
> Kathy
>
> "John D." <jcdech@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e821bab6.0305190853.299ea4ea@posting.google.com...
> > That's the same question in just about ANY field of employment.
> >
> > But as I have said here before, if no one will hire you -- for
> > WHATEVER reason -- then hire yourself.
> >
> > Try to start something on your own by yourself or get some fellow
> > "having trouble getting hired " A+ people together and approach the
> > problem together. If the group "team effort" works out informally --
> > doing people's computers at your "HQ" or making house calls -- then
> > take more serious action and make it an official business. I have seen
> > a group of "handymen" get together to field service calls and they
> > operate more efficiently that way...of course, they probably have more
> > work considering all that needs to be done with home repairs,
> > improvement, etc., but the concept still applies. I would do that on
> > my own but would have preferred a group effort, at least one person
> > fielding calls/making estimates/setting appointments and then *I* go
> > out and do the job.
> >
> > The point is, I think it's about time to focus on YOU and doing
> > something on your own...not giving up getting employed -- still keep
> > trying -- but look into starting something on your own or with a
> > "partner" (loosely speaking) or two. Actually, being female, I would
> > think you have an EDGE over male techs...the "novelty" card that would
> > make you stand out...use it.
> >
> > But weren't you going to apply to Comp-USA some time ago? Or was it
> > BestBuy? What happened to that? If they won't hire you, go down there
> > again and ask very loudly -- preferably in front of customers at the
> > counter -- if said store has a hiring policy that is discriminatory
> > in that they don't hire FEMALE PC Techs? If you're a BLACK female, it
> > should work even better...your subsequent lawsuit will set you up for
> > life so you won't need to worry about employment then. [just kidding]
> >
> > How about the public school system in your city...they need PC Techs
> > for all those computers, don't they? Have you applied there? I
> > recently subbed at a local middle school for a Computer Literacy class
> > (boy, was THAT a bad day) and in one part of the room were stacks of
> > computers someone was working on...probably one of the disctrict's
> > techs...they DO have people that go to he schools on service calls, do
> > network stuff and solve Internet connectivity problems, etc..
> >
> > How about a position at a school -- public, trade or otherwise --
> > where you can TEACH an A+ course? That would be good on the side.
> >
> > So I would keep looking for an employer but would give more serious
> > thought starting something on my own.
> >
> > Just keep trying, Kathy.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > John D.
> >
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