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| Ghost & All,
Good news. Opening up the chassis, blowin out the dust bunnies with the
canned air and reseating the HDs & cables seemed to work -for now- guess
this is my 2nd chance to back that puppy up before it happens again. Can
anyone recommend a reliable backup method. I was thinking about ISOing the
partitions. I was going to ghost the images using Norton Ghost but I have
the version that won't write the image to an external CDRW.
Suggestions welcomed.
thanX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ghost" <user@user.com>
Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 20:13
Subject: Re: HDD Failure - S.0.S. cont'd
No, Maxtors are generally considered good quality drives, and they do not
typically fail after only 3 years. However, any drive can fail-
regardless of brand.
If you can mount the drive, you should be able to recover the data- in
most cases.
If the drive will not mount, there are a few options, but none of them are
easy.
First, you can, if you really need the data, and dont mind laying out tons
of bucks, send it off to a company that specializes in data recovery.
Minimum price will be about $800.00- and it goes up from there.
Alternately, if you have access to a matching drive, you can try swapping
out the controller cards. This might well allow you to recover all the
data on the drive. I have done this *MANY* times with Quantum drives. On
a popular model, they have a faulty controller card which fails all the
time- same chip, same place on the same chip. I keep a known good
controller card around for this purpose. I swap the card, recover the
data to a CD or another HDD, and the customer remains quite impressed.
Let me know if you can mount the drive.
In article <v55psu4657fra9@corp.supernews.com>, "Marco"
<majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Whether the drive is under warranty is irrelevant to me. The content is
> what I'm after *not* a FREE drive. I just wish that I had backed it up
but
> then I dont know that it cannot be saved yet.
>
> The drive is a Maxtor and is approximately 3 yrs old. Is it normal for it
> fail after just 3 years? That is what I am finding.
>
> BTW I incorrectly IDd the drive as slave. It is the master since it is
> partitioned as 'C' & 'D.' I havent' attempted to resurrect it yet but
> I've got other recommendations from elsewhere. I wanted to float it past
> the famous A+ certified bunch here but no one has been any help so far.
> Just a lot of banter about waranties and getting used to HD failure. -no
> kidding! Nothing lasts forever but 3 yrs seems kind of premature for a HD
> to fail w/o warning. Yes you read that correctly. There was no grinding
> sounds or other tell tale symptoms of imminent HD failure.
>
>
>
>
> "natural_4u" <natural_4u@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:atu4a.273057$Yo4.10835298@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > How old are the HDDs? I guess they are no longer under warrenty?
> > If the failed slave partition was configured to be the 'C' & 'D'
> > what drive letters were configured for the master?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Marco" <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:v53hmcst4pmsab@corp.supernews.com...
> > > All,
> > > I have not even begun to diagnose this one & want suggestions before I
> > > begin.
> > >
> > > Sys specs:
> > > Win2k SP2
> > > 2 HDD master - slave via cable select
> > > 128 MB RAM
> > > P IV 1.2 Ghz
> > >
> > > The drive that failed is the slave. It was configured to be the 'C' &
> 'D'
> > > partitions. It worked fine until last night. I know there was less
> than
> > > 100 megs of space on ea. partition but that shouldn't have mattered.
> When
> > I
> > > boot up and it runs through the POST I get HDD failure press F1 to
> > continue
> > > or F2 to run system setup.
> > >
> > > Can anyone speculate why this drive has out of the blue failed?
> > >
> > > I'm going to open the chassis and reset the cables and pwr supply but
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > doubt that will fix it.
> > >
> > > If anyone can recommend a quick 'how to' on this issue I would
> appreciate
> > > it.
> > >
> > > thanX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >[/color]
| |
| Eric Halpern 2003-02-19, 9:23 pm |
| I suggest ghosting to a spare hard drive in place of a CDR if you really
care about the data on the drive.
Why? - Many including myself have had unreliable Ghosts to CDR. I won't
soon forget loosing an entire system to a bad restore from a GHOST 11-CDR
set and being forced to start from scratch. Three disks into the restore
Ghost gave me a fatal message and bagged the recovery session with no
alternative.
Don't get me wrong, I love Ghost - I'm just not sold on its CDR
capability.... The CDR thing is cool, but there was no indication that the
set would be faulty until I needed it.
Comments???
Eric
Wayne, PA
"Marco" <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v585slthnj3i80@corp.supernews.com...
> Ghost & All,
> Good news. Opening up the chassis, blowin out the dust bunnies with the
> canned air and reseating the HDs & cables seemed to work -for now- guess
> this is my 2nd chance to back that puppy up before it happens again. Can
> anyone recommend a reliable backup method. I was thinking about ISOing
the
> partitions. I was going to ghost the images using Norton Ghost but I have
> the version that won't write the image to an external CDRW.
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
> thanX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ghost" <user@user.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 20:13
> Subject: Re: HDD Failure - S.0.S. cont'd
> No, Maxtors are generally considered good quality drives, and they do not
> typically fail after only 3 years. However, any drive can fail-
> regardless of brand.
>
> If you can mount the drive, you should be able to recover the data- in
> most cases.
>
> If the drive will not mount, there are a few options, but none of them are
> easy.
>
> First, you can, if you really need the data, and dont mind laying out tons
> of bucks, send it off to a company that specializes in data recovery.
> Minimum price will be about $800.00- and it goes up from there.
>
> Alternately, if you have access to a matching drive, you can try swapping
> out the controller cards. This might well allow you to recover all the
> data on the drive. I have done this *MANY* times with Quantum drives. On
> a popular model, they have a faulty controller card which fails all the
> time- same chip, same place on the same chip. I keep a known good
> controller card around for this purpose. I swap the card, recover the
> data to a CD or another HDD, and the customer remains quite impressed.
>
> Let me know if you can mount the drive.
>
>
>
> In article <v55psu4657fra9@corp.supernews.com>, "Marco"
> <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whether the drive is under warranty is irrelevant to me. The content is
> > what I'm after *not* a FREE drive. I just wish that I had backed it up
> but
> > then I dont know that it cannot be saved yet.
> >
> > The drive is a Maxtor and is approximately 3 yrs old. Is it normal for
it
> > fail after just 3 years? That is what I am finding.
> >
> > BTW I incorrectly IDd the drive as slave. It is the master since it is
> > partitioned as 'C' & 'D.' I havent' attempted to resurrect it yet but
> > I've got other recommendations from elsewhere. I wanted to float it
past
> > the famous A+ certified bunch here but no one has been any help so far.
> > Just a lot of banter about waranties and getting used to HD
ailure. -no
> > kidding! Nothing lasts forever but 3 yrs seems kind of premature for a
HD
> > to fail w/o warning. Yes you read that correctly. There was no
grinding
> > sounds or other tell tale symptoms of imminent HD failure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "natural_4u" <natural_4u@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:atu4a.273057$Yo4.10835298@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > How old are the HDDs? I guess they are no longer under warrenty?
> > > If the failed slave partition was configured to be the 'C' & 'D'
> > > what drive letters were configured for the master?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marco" <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:v53hmcst4pmsab@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > All,
> > > > I have not even begun to diagnose this one & want suggestions before
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > > begin.
> > > >
> > > > Sys specs:
> > > > Win2k SP2
> > > > 2 HDD master - slave via cable select
> > > > 128 MB RAM
> > > > P IV 1.2 Ghz
> > > >
> > > > The drive that failed is the slave. It was configured to be the 'C'[/color]
&
> > 'D'
> > > > partitions. It worked fine until last night. I know there was less
> > than
> > > > 100 megs of space on ea. partition but that shouldn't have mattered.
> > When
> > > I
> > > > boot up and it runs through the POST I get HDD failure press F1 to
> > > continue
> > > > or F2 to run system setup.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone speculate why this drive has out of the blue failed?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to open the chassis and reset the cables and pwr supply
but
> I
> > > > doubt that will fix it.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone can recommend a quick 'how to' on this issue I would
> > appreciate
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > thanX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
| |
| Billy 2003-02-19, 11:23 pm |
| Drive Image is also pretty sweet. Have not tried the spanning to CD, however
did restore 4, 2GB images of one drive (and multiple large images) as a
test.
Another method would be to Identify all extensions (.doc, .txt .pdf.zip
etc).that represent the actual data that you care about. Use search and drop
a copy in a folder to be Zipped and Burnt.
"Marco" <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v585slthnj3i80@corp.supernews.com...
> Ghost & All,
> Good news. Opening up the chassis, blowin out the dust bunnies with the
> canned air and reseating the HDs & cables seemed to work -for now- guess
> this is my 2nd chance to back that puppy up before it happens again. Can
> anyone recommend a reliable backup method. I was thinking about ISOing
the
> partitions. I was going to ghost the images using Norton Ghost but I have
> the version that won't write the image to an external CDRW.
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
> thanX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ghost" <user@user.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 20:13
> Subject: Re: HDD Failure - S.0.S. cont'd
> No, Maxtors are generally considered good quality drives, and they do not
> typically fail after only 3 years. However, any drive can fail-
> regardless of brand.
>
> If you can mount the drive, you should be able to recover the data- in
> most cases.
>
> If the drive will not mount, there are a few options, but none of them are
> easy.
>
> First, you can, if you really need the data, and dont mind laying out tons
> of bucks, send it off to a company that specializes in data recovery.
> Minimum price will be about $800.00- and it goes up from there.
>
> Alternately, if you have access to a matching drive, you can try swapping
> out the controller cards. This might well allow you to recover all the
> data on the drive. I have done this *MANY* times with Quantum drives. On
> a popular model, they have a faulty controller card which fails all the
> time- same chip, same place on the same chip. I keep a known good
> controller card around for this purpose. I swap the card, recover the
> data to a CD or another HDD, and the customer remains quite impressed.
>
> Let me know if you can mount the drive.
>
>
>
> In article <v55psu4657fra9@corp.supernews.com>, "Marco"
> <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whether the drive is under warranty is irrelevant to me. The content is
> > what I'm after *not* a FREE drive. I just wish that I had backed it up
> but
> > then I dont know that it cannot be saved yet.
> >
> > The drive is a Maxtor and is approximately 3 yrs old. Is it normal for
it
> > fail after just 3 years? That is what I am finding.
> >
> > BTW I incorrectly IDd the drive as slave. It is the master since it is
> > partitioned as 'C' & 'D.' I havent' attempted to resurrect it yet but
> > I've got other recommendations from elsewhere. I wanted to float it
past
> > the famous A+ certified bunch here but no one has been any help so far.
> > Just a lot of banter about waranties and getting used to HD
ailure. -no
> > kidding! Nothing lasts forever but 3 yrs seems kind of premature for a
HD
> > to fail w/o warning. Yes you read that correctly. There was no
grinding
> > sounds or other tell tale symptoms of imminent HD failure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "natural_4u" <natural_4u@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:atu4a.273057$Yo4.10835298@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > How old are the HDDs? I guess they are no longer under warrenty?
> > > If the failed slave partition was configured to be the 'C' & 'D'
> > > what drive letters were configured for the master?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marco" <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:v53hmcst4pmsab@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > All,
> > > > I have not even begun to diagnose this one & want suggestions before
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > > begin.
> > > >
> > > > Sys specs:
> > > > Win2k SP2
> > > > 2 HDD master - slave via cable select
> > > > 128 MB RAM
> > > > P IV 1.2 Ghz
> > > >
> > > > The drive that failed is the slave. It was configured to be the 'C'[/color]
&
> > 'D'
> > > > partitions. It worked fine until last night. I know there was less
> > than
> > > > 100 megs of space on ea. partition but that shouldn't have mattered.
> > When
> > > I
> > > > boot up and it runs through the POST I get HDD failure press F1 to
> > > continue
> > > > or F2 to run system setup.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone speculate why this drive has out of the blue failed?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to open the chassis and reset the cables and pwr supply
but
> I
> > > > doubt that will fix it.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone can recommend a quick 'how to' on this issue I would
> > appreciate
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > thanX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
| |
| natural_4u 2003-02-20, 8:23 am |
| PQDI "Power Quest Drive Image" Same company as Partition Magic
is very nice and simple to use
Able to image multiple GBs
"Marco" <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:v585slthnj3i80@corp.supernews.com...
> Ghost & All,
> Good news. Opening up the chassis, blowin out the dust bunnies with the
> canned air and reseating the HDs & cables seemed to work -for now- guess
> this is my 2nd chance to back that puppy up before it happens again. Can
> anyone recommend a reliable backup method. I was thinking about ISOing
the
> partitions. I was going to ghost the images using Norton Ghost but I have
> the version that won't write the image to an external CDRW.
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
> thanX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ghost" <user@user.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.certification.a-plus
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 20:13
> Subject: Re: HDD Failure - S.0.S. cont'd
> No, Maxtors are generally considered good quality drives, and they do not
> typically fail after only 3 years. However, any drive can fail-
> regardless of brand.
>
> If you can mount the drive, you should be able to recover the data- in
> most cases.
>
> If the drive will not mount, there are a few options, but none of them are
> easy.
>
> First, you can, if you really need the data, and dont mind laying out tons
> of bucks, send it off to a company that specializes in data recovery.
> Minimum price will be about $800.00- and it goes up from there.
>
> Alternately, if you have access to a matching drive, you can try swapping
> out the controller cards. This might well allow you to recover all the
> data on the drive. I have done this *MANY* times with Quantum drives. On
> a popular model, they have a faulty controller card which fails all the
> time- same chip, same place on the same chip. I keep a known good
> controller card around for this purpose. I swap the card, recover the
> data to a CD or another HDD, and the customer remains quite impressed.
>
> Let me know if you can mount the drive.
>
>
>
> In article <v55psu4657fra9@corp.supernews.com>, "Marco"
> <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Whether the drive is under warranty is irrelevant to me. The content is
> > what I'm after *not* a FREE drive. I just wish that I had backed it up
> but
> > then I dont know that it cannot be saved yet.
> >
> > The drive is a Maxtor and is approximately 3 yrs old. Is it normal for
it
> > fail after just 3 years? That is what I am finding.
> >
> > BTW I incorrectly IDd the drive as slave. It is the master since it is
> > partitioned as 'C' & 'D.' I havent' attempted to resurrect it yet but
> > I've got other recommendations from elsewhere. I wanted to float it
past
> > the famous A+ certified bunch here but no one has been any help so far.
> > Just a lot of banter about waranties and getting used to HD
ailure. -no
> > kidding! Nothing lasts forever but 3 yrs seems kind of premature for a
HD
> > to fail w/o warning. Yes you read that correctly. There was no
grinding
> > sounds or other tell tale symptoms of imminent HD failure.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "natural_4u" <natural_4u@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:atu4a.273057$Yo4.10835298@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > > How old are the HDDs? I guess they are no longer under warrenty?
> > > If the failed slave partition was configured to be the 'C' & 'D'
> > > what drive letters were configured for the master?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Marco" <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:v53hmcst4pmsab@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > All,
> > > > I have not even begun to diagnose this one & want suggestions before
I[col
or=darkred]
> > > > begin.
> > > >
> > > > Sys specs:
> > > > Win2k SP2
> > > > 2 HDD master - slave via cable select
> > > > 128 MB RAM
> > > > P IV 1.2 Ghz
> > > >
> > > > The drive that failed is the slave. It was configured to be the 'C'[/color]
&
> > 'D'
> > > > partitions. It worked fine until last night. I know there was less
> > than
> > > > 100 megs of space on ea. partition but that shouldn't have mattered.
> > When
> > > I
> > > > boot up and it runs through the POST I get HDD failure press F1 to
> > > continue
> > > > or F2 to run system setup.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone speculate why this drive has out of the blue failed?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to open the chassis and reset the cables and pwr supply
but
> I
> > > > doubt that will fix it.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone can recommend a quick 'how to' on this issue I would
> > appreciate
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > thanX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
| |
| Tony Sivori 2003-02-21, 8:23 am |
| Marco <majorremove4spammarco@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ghost & All,
> Good news. Opening up the chassis, blowin out the dust bunnies with
> the canned air and reseating the HDs & cables seemed to work -for
> now- guess this is my 2nd chance to back that puppy up before it
> happens again. Can anyone recommend a reliable backup method. I was
> thinking about ISOing the partitions. I was going to ghost the
> images using Norton Ghost but I have the version that won't write the
> image to an external CDRW.
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
> thanX
Run Ghost from the command line to split the image to segments that will fit
on a cd-r disk, but ghost the segments to the hard drive. Then burn the
image file segments to cd-r.
Using my early version (5.1c) here is what I use to create a compressed 690
MB segmented image of drive C:\ with the Image dumped to partition (or hard
drive) D:\.
A:\>
ghost -split=690 -auto -span - clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=D
:\filename.gho -
z1
--
Tony Sivori
| |
| Tony Sivori 2003-02-21, 8:23 am |
| Eric Halpern <ehalpern1@comcast.net> wrote:
> I suggest ghosting to a spare hard drive in place of a CDR if you
> really care about the data on the drive.
>
> Why? - Many including myself have had unreliable Ghosts to CDR. I
> won't soon forget loosing an entire system to a bad restore from a
> GHOST 11-CDR set and being forced to start from scratch. Three disks
> into the restore Ghost gave me a fatal message and bagged the
> recovery session with no alternative.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I love Ghost - I'm just not sold on its CDR
> capability.... The CDR thing is cool, but there was no indication
> that the set would be faulty until I needed it.
>
> Comments???
>
> Eric
> Wayne, PA
Use the Check Image function before you assume that you have completed the
back up. I've only had two Image files fail the test since I started using
Ghost three years ago, but I still check each image as part of the back up
routine.
--
Tony Sivori
| |
| Tony Sivori 2003-02-21, 8:23 am |
| Tony Sivori <TonySivori@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> A:\>
> ghost -split=690 -auto -span
> - clone,mode=pdump,src=1:1,dst=D
:\filename.gho - z1
Oops, the above command line wrapped. The above three lines are intended to
be all on one line.
--
Tony Sivori
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