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jt

2003-12-17, 12:24 pm

Hi folks,

Someone just asked me (and I'm just starting to check into it): if they
upgrade their CPU (600MHz PIII in old Micron box) - either by CPU upgrade or
mbo/cpu combo - will they have to reload their OS and applications. My
initial thought is yes, but I don't recall exactly why. Could someone out
there comment on this. Thanks in advance!

cheers,
jt


hootnholler

2003-12-17, 2:24 pm

Hey jt,

On a cpu upgrade, no, you should not have to alter anything on the drive.
You would be dealing with jumpers, multipliers, etc.. and that information
mainly resides in the BIOS. You should be able to just swap the cpu, make
your adjustments, and go on about your day.

As for the mobo/cpu swap, the key is the motherboard. When I do this for
people, I usually tell them that there's a pretty good chance that I'll have
to format and reinstall. I know that a lot of people may disagree with
this, but I find it easier this way. It has to do with the motherboard
drivers. I have been fortunate and done this swap painlessly, but more
often than not, have to redo the drive. I usually just backup all their
data, format, load motherboard drivers, reinstall windows and then reinstall
their data.

Hope this helps.

Hoot

"jt" <diespam@diespam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
>
> Someone just asked me (and I'm just starting to check into it): if they
> upgrade their CPU (600MHz PIII in old Micron box) - either by CPU upgrade

or
> mbo/cpu combo - will they have to reload their OS and applications. My
> initial thought is yes, but I don't recall exactly why. Could someone out
> there comment on this. Thanks in advance!
>
> cheers,
> jt
>
>



ImhoTech

2003-12-17, 3:24 pm


"jt" <diespam@diespam.com> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
>
> Someone just asked me (and I'm just starting to check into it): if they
> upgrade their CPU (600MHz PIII in old Micron box) - either by CPU upgrade

or
> mbo/cpu combo - will they have to reload their OS and applications. My
> initial thought is yes, but I don't recall exactly why. Could someone out
> there comment on this. Thanks in advance!
>
> cheers,
> jt
>
>


Just a cpu, no. A cpu and MB, maybe.


Thomas Carraway, Jr.

2003-12-18, 2:23 am

I heard that upgrading CPUs could deactivate the activation on Windows XP.
I upgraded my CPU and it didn't though.
I think it has to be some major upgrading before that happens.
I don't get the reinstalling of operating system for a CPU upgrade.
Might not deal with your question but that is all that came to mind.
If Windows XP is deactivated, you might have to boot into safe mode
with networking support to reactivate it. I did see where 30 days had
passed and XP was deactivated, it would boot up to a blank screen in normal
mode. May have just been a glitch in their PC.
TC
"jt" <diespam@diespam.com> wrote in message
news:W00Eb.72293$US5.23502@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> Hi folks,
>
> Someone just asked me (and I'm just starting to check into it): if they
> upgrade their CPU (600MHz PIII in old Micron box) - either by CPU upgrade

or
> mbo/cpu combo - will they have to reload their OS and applications. My
> initial thought is yes, but I don't recall exactly why. Could someone out
> there comment on this. Thanks in advance!
>
> cheers,
> jt
>
>



AG

2003-12-18, 7:24 pm


"Thomas Carraway, Jr." <tccarraw@netdoor.comITX> wrote in message
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> I heard that upgrading CPUs could deactivate the activation on Windows XP.
> I upgraded my CPU and it didn't though.
> I think it has to be some major upgrading before that happens.
> I don't get the reinstalling of operating system for a CPU upgrade.
> Might not deal with your question but that is all that came to mind.
> If Windows XP is deactivated, you might have to boot into safe mode
> with networking support to reactivate it. I did see where 30 days had
> passed and XP was deactivated, it would boot up to a blank screen in

normal
> mode. May have just been a glitch in their PC.
> TC

Sometimes XP just will not boot with a new MB. It's not a function of
activation it's that too many drivers have changed and you need to do a
repair install of XP. I've never seen a successful change of a MB with 2000
but I've only done it about twice. I had to do a complete reinstall both
times.
AG


mark mandel

2003-12-18, 10:24 pm


"AG" <atenor@email.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Thomas Carraway, Jr." <tccarraw@netdoor.comITX> wrote in message
> news:zIWdnQa6s-4SzXyiRVn-sQ@netdoor.com...
XP.[color=blue]
> normal
> Sometimes XP just will not boot with a new MB. It's not a function of
> activation it's that too many drivers have changed and you need to do a
> repair install of XP.

Actually it can be worse than that as I discovered so that a complete
reinstall was needed(the repair/install simply didn't work because the drive
letter on which XP was located didn't show up!).

I've never seen a successful change of a MB with 2000
> but I've only done it about twice. I had to do a complete reinstall both
> times.
> AG
>
>



John Dearing

2003-12-19, 11:24 am

Thomas Carraway, Jr. wrote:

> I heard that upgrading CPUs could deactivate the activation on Windows XP.
> I upgraded my CPU and it didn't though.
> I think it has to be some major upgrading before that happens.
> I don't get the reinstalling of operating system for a CPU upgrade.
> Might not deal with your question but that is all that came to mind.
> If Windows XP is deactivated, you might have to boot into safe mode
> with networking support to reactivate it. I did see where 30 days had
> passed and XP was deactivated, it would boot up to a blank screen in normal
> mode. May have just been a glitch in their PC.


Windows XP Product Activation is a pretty complicated affair. Each time
a PC boots, an "election" takes place. Any devices that have changed
since the last startup are awarded "points". Exceed a certian number of
points and you need to reactivate with Microsoft. Also, exceed a certain
number of points within a certain timeframe and you'll have to
reactivate as well.

The NIC has a superweight of 3 points. Most other devices have a weight
of just one point. I believe the magic number is 6, exceed six points
and you need to reactivate.

So, A simple CPU upgrade shouldn't trigger a reactivation but a complete
motherboard swap probably would. But a CPU upgrade and a new NIC and
Sound Card could trigger it. But not if you didn't do them all at once
and too closely together.

Also, changing from say an Intel based motherboard to an AMD motherboard
probably wouldn't work at all since the HAL would be completely
different for AMD systems vs. Intel systems. The HAL is built during
installation of the O/S.

Hope this helps!

John
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