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BigB

2002-06-25, 5:25 pm

Hello All,

I have been studying for the OS passed the Core in December. I
have taken some practice tests that ask about command line network
tools--tracert, arp, netstat etc. But in Mike Meyer's book all I have
seen referenced are winipcfg and ipconfig.

What is really on the test?????

Thanks

B
Growler

2002-06-26, 2:25 pm

BigB <bigb3000@mailandnews.com> wrote in news:MPG.1782b6795245aeb59896d8
@localhost:

> Hello All,
>
> I have been studying for the OS passed the Core in December. I
> have taken some practice tests that ask about command line network
> tools--tracert, arp, netstat etc. But in Mike Meyer's book all I have
> seen referenced are winipcfg and ipconfig.
>
> What is really on the test?????
>
> Thanks
>
> B


Winipcfg is win9x ipconfig is NT and up
They get you the same info tho
>


mlogan

2002-06-27, 7:25 am

Mike's book contains more than just winipcfg and ipconfig. It includes
PING. Know that if you can ping an IP address, but not the domain name
(i.e., www.microsoft.com) that the DNS server is down. You should also know
what DHCP, DNS, and WINS is for - I'd say, if it's in the book - it's fair
game for the test.

Tracert is another handy tool to identify a breakdown between you and the
intended destination. Can also test for "sluggishness" when accessing the
Net. Because TCP/IP is such an intergral part of networking, you should
know the utilities - not just for A+, but also for real-world
troubleshooting.

If you plan on going on to Network+, you might want to grab a cup of coffee
at Barnes and Noble or Borders and read through the TCP/IP sections of the
N+ materials before taking the A+ exam. It can only help!

Carly
BigB <bigb3000@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
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st...
> Hello All,
>
> I have been studying for the OS passed the Core in December. I
> have taken some practice tests that ask about command line network
> tools--tracert, arp, netstat etc. But in Mike Meyer's book all I have
> seen referenced are winipcfg and ipconfig.
>
> What is really on the test?????
>
> Thanks
>
> B



Michael Boerigter

2002-06-27, 8:25 am

I don't recall any questions relating to command line utilities on the A+ OS
exam. Do know that WINIPCFG comes with Win 9X and IPCONFIG with WIN2000.
What you definitely should know is how to set or adjust TCP/IP settings. For
example, where do you go to make sure that the system is obtaining an IP
address automatically. Also know what the HOSTS and LMHOSTS files are for.

HOSTS is a file used by the system when DNS is down; it contains a listing
of FQDN's and IP addressess. LMHOSTS is similar but is used for NETBIOS
names when WINS is not working properly.

For the OS exam I used Mike Meyer's book as a final reference and I believe
it did help me greatly (although I also read the Sybex and New Rider's
books).

Mike

"mlogan" <mlogan@toad.net> wrote in message
news:GdDS8.2$9d3.10036@news.abs.net...
> Mike's book contains more than just winipcfg and ipconfig. It includes
> PING. Know that if you can ping an IP address, but not the domain name
> (i.e., www.microsoft.com) that the DNS server is down. You should also

know
> what DHCP, DNS, and WINS is for - I'd say, if it's in the book - it's fair
> game for the test.
>
> Tracert is another handy tool to identify a breakdown between you and the
> intended destination. Can also test for "sluggishness" when accessing the
> Net. Because TCP/IP is such an intergral part of networking, you should
> know the utilities - not just for A+, but also for real-world
> troubleshooting.
>
> If you plan on going on to Network+, you might want to grab a cup of

coffee
> at Barnes and Noble or Borders and read through the TCP/IP sections of the
> N+ materials before taking the A+ exam. It can only help!
>
> Carly
> BigB <bigb3000@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG. 1782b6795245aeb59896d8@localho
st...
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I have been studying for the OS passed the Core in December. I
> > have taken some practice tests that ask about command line network
> > tools--tracert, arp, netstat etc. But in Mike Meyer's book all I have
> > seen referenced are winipcfg and ipconfig.
> >
> > What is really on the test?????
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > B

>
>



Growler

2002-06-27, 6:25 pm

"mlogan" <mlogan@toad.net> wrote in news:GdDS8.2$9d3.10036@news.abs.net:

> Mike's book contains more than just winipcfg and ipconfig. It
> includes PING. Know that if you can ping an IP address, but not the
> domain name (i.e., www.microsoft.com) that the DNS server is down.
> You should also know what DHCP, DNS, and WINS is for - I'd say, if
> it's in the book - it's fair game for the test.
>
> Tracert is another handy tool to identify a breakdown between you and
> the intended destination. Can also test for "sluggishness" when
> accessing the Net. Because TCP/IP is such an intergral part of
> networking, you should know the utilities - not just for A+, but also
> for real-world troubleshooting.
>
> If you plan on going on to Network+, you might want to grab a cup of
> coffee at Barnes and Noble or Borders and read through the TCP/IP
> sections of the N+ materials before taking the A+ exam. It can only
> help!
>
> Carly
> BigB <bigb3000@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG. 1782b6795245aeb59896d8@localho
st...
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I have been studying for the OS passed the Core in December. I
>> have taken some practice tests that ask about command line network
>> tools--tracert, arp, netstat etc. But in Mike Meyer's book all I
>> have seen referenced are winipcfg and ipconfig.
>>
>> What is really on the test?????
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> B

>
>


Just a point. You can ping a domain name . Microsoft times out on me but
got an answer from Yahoo.com.
Nerdom

2002-06-27, 9:25 pm

microsoft does that purposely.

"Growler" <me@there.org> wrote in message
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@65.100.9.17...
> "mlogan" <mlogan@toad.net> wrote in news:GdDS8.2$9d3.10036@news.abs.net:
>
> > Mike's book contains more than just winipcfg and ipconfig. It
> > includes PING. Know that if you can ping an IP address, but not the
> > domain name (i.e., www.microsoft.com) that the DNS server is down.
> > You should also know what DHCP, DNS, and WINS is for - I'd say, if
> > it's in the book - it's fair game for the test.
> >
> > Tracert is another handy tool to identify a breakdown between you and
> > the intended destination. Can also test for "sluggishness" when
> > accessing the Net. Because TCP/IP is such an intergral part of
> > networking, you should know the utilities - not just for A+, but also
> > for real-world troubleshooting.
> >
> > If you plan on going on to Network+, you might want to grab a cup of
> > coffee at Barnes and Noble or Borders and read through the TCP/IP
> > sections of the N+ materials before taking the A+ exam. It can only
> > help!
> >
> > Carly
> > BigB <bigb3000@mailandnews.com> wrote in message
> > news:MPG. 1782b6795245aeb59896d8@localho
st...
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> I have been studying for the OS passed the Core in December. I
> >> have taken some practice tests that ask about command line network
> >> tools--tracert, arp, netstat etc. But in Mike Meyer's book all I
> >> have seen referenced are winipcfg and ipconfig.
> >>
> >> What is really on the test?????
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> B

> >
> >

>
> Just a point. You can ping a domain name . Microsoft times out on me but
> got an answer from Yahoo.com.



Keith T. Williams

2002-06-28, 5:25 am

Growler <me@there.org> wrote in news:Xns923AC9A17BA11metherorg
@
65.100.9.17:

> "mlogan" <mlogan@toad.net> wrote in news:GdDS8.2$9d3.10036

@news.abs.net:
>
>> Mike's book contains more than just winipcfg and ipconfig. It
>> includes PING. Know that if you can ping an IP address, but not the
>> domain name (i.e., www.microsoft.com) that the DNS server is down.
>> You should also know what DHCP, DNS, and WINS is for - I'd say, if
>> it's in the book - it's fair game for the test.
>>
>>

>
> Just a point. You can ping a domain name . Microsoft times out on me

but
> got an answer from Yahoo.com.
>

Growler, he was making a point that if you ping the domain name and it
doesn't respond, but the IP for that name does, then probably the DNS for
that domain name is down.

Also, if you ping both and neither answers, this does NOT necessarily
mean that the site is down. They could simply be blocking ICMP in order
to stop some (D)DOS attacks.


--
Keith T. Williams
A+, CCNA

"On two occasions, I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray,
Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right
answers come out?' I am not able to rightly apprehend the kind of
confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."
-- Charles Babbage
Growler

2002-06-28, 2:25 pm

"Keith T. Williams" <pug_ugly@hotmail.com> wrote in
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balservenet@216.254.136.26:

> Growler <me@there.org> wrote in news:Xns923AC9A17BA11metherorg
@
> 65.100.9.17:
>
>> "mlogan" <mlogan@toad.net> wrote in news:GdDS8.2$9d3.10036

> @news.abs.net:
>>
>>> Mike's book contains more than just winipcfg and ipconfig. It
>>> includes PING. Know that if you can ping an IP address, but not the
>>> domain name (i.e., www.microsoft.com) that the DNS server is down.
>>> You should also know what DHCP, DNS, and WINS is for - I'd say, if
>>> it's in the book - it's fair game for the test.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> Just a point. You can ping a domain name . Microsoft times out on me

> but
>> got an answer from Yahoo.com.
>>

> Growler, he was making a point that if you ping the domain name and it
> doesn't respond, but the IP for that name does, then probably the DNS
> for that domain name is down.
>
> Also, if you ping both and neither answers, this does NOT necessarily
> mean that the site is down. They could simply be blocking ICMP in
> order to stop some (D)DOS attacks.
>
>


Now that Ire-read the post I see that you're right
BeagleDaddy

2002-06-28, 3:25 pm

I just took (and passed) the OS exam today and saw NO questions about
ping, pathping, tracert, ipconfig/winipcfg, etc. I primarily studied
the passport book and was surprised at how much I was tested on that
wasn't covered! This book nailed the Core exam for me, but I was deep
in the weeds today. I would suggest combining your efforts with
several other books borrowed from a friend or the library. Good luck!
Pattman

2002-06-30, 7:25 pm

I know "my 2 cents" doesn't always mean much, but there is always one more
thought
.... If you can ping the IP and either CAN or CAN'T ping the NAMED SERVER it
is always possible the physical box is alive, but the services on that box
may not be operating.


Growler wrote:

> "Keith T. Williams" <pug_ugly@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:Xns923B481263820keithwglo
balservenet@216.254.136.26:
>
> > Growler <me@there.org> wrote in news:Xns923AC9A17BA11metherorg
@
> > 65.100.9.17:
> >
> >> "mlogan" <mlogan@toad.net> wrote in news:GdDS8.2$9d3.10036

> > @news.abs.net:
> >>
> >>> Mike's book contains more than just winipcfg and ipconfig. It
> >>> includes PING. Know that if you can ping an IP address, but not the
> >>> domain name (i.e., www.microsoft.com) that the DNS server is down.
> >>> You should also know what DHCP, DNS, and WINS is for - I'd say, if
> >>> it's in the book - it's fair game for the test.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Just a point. You can ping a domain name . Microsoft times out on me

> > but
> >> got an answer from Yahoo.com.
> >>

> > Growler, he was making a point that if you ping the domain name and it
> > doesn't respond, but the IP for that name does, then probably the DNS
> > for that domain name is down.
> >
> > Also, if you ping both and neither answers, this does NOT necessarily
> > mean that the site is down. They could simply be blocking ICMP in
> > order to stop some (D)DOS attacks.
> >
> >

>
> Now that Ire-read the post I see that you're right


Andy Barkl

2002-06-30, 7:25 pm

"Pattman" <vze27fwv@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3D1FA471.626DD72D@verizon.net...
> I know "my 2 cents" doesn't always mean much, but there is always one more
> thought
> ... If you can ping the IP and either CAN or CAN'T ping the NAMED SERVER

it
> is always possible the physical box is alive, but the services on that box
> may not be operating.


A good thought however they are not directly related. The name you ping
must either be registered on a DNS server or available in your Hosts file
and it will resolve to an IP address and respond whether the service is
enabled or running.


Jim Macklin

2002-06-30, 9:25 pm

Many servers now don't respond to ping or tracert because those are often a
means of DOS attacks, I think MSN has blocked ping but Yahoo hasn't.


"Andy Barkl" <abarkl@NOSPAM.wetrainit.com> wrote in message
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> "Pattman" <vze27fwv@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3D1FA471.626DD72D@verizon.net...
> > I know "my 2 cents" doesn't always mean much, but there is always one

more
> > thought
> > ... If you can ping the IP and either CAN or CAN'T ping the NAMED SERVER

> it
> > is always possible the physical box is alive, but the services on that

box
> > may not be operating.

>
> A good thought however they are not directly related. The name you ping
> must either be registered on a DNS server or available in your Hosts file
> and it will resolve to an IP address and respond whether the service is
> enabled or running.
>
>



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