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Smtp Problems big ones
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| It seems that my users who have authority to use the pop
and smtp server can only recieve mail outside the
building, and not send to anyone else other than those in
that blong to the domain I get the error no transport
provider was available to....... and the other when i'm
testing the server was found but unable to connect .
Help me out here
anything is welcome
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| Lanwench 2002-10-05, 8:32 pm |
| Need more info.... & preferably not all in one run-on sentence. ;-)
"Matt" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in message
news:1186b01c26b9a$8a036890$3b
ef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA10...
> It seems that my users who have authority to use the pop
> and smtp server can only recieve mail outside the
> building, and not send to anyone else other than those in
> that blong to the domain I get the error no transport
> provider was available to....... and the other when i'm
> testing the server was found but unable to connect .
>
> Help me out here
> anything is welcome
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| Matthew 2002-10-05, 8:32 pm |
| Hi, sorry about the lack of Info.
My Laptop users are trying to send email to people outside
of the lan. They are using outlook 2000 and i have created
2 profiles one with Exchange server for use within and one
with IMS for use without. Both use the same PST file and
the configuration are set as per normal use no ssl and
secure authentication. We had them running Outlook express
but there just isnt the comfort of only using the same
client. If you need more info email me. I could reaaly use
a hand in this.
>-----Original Message-----
>Need more info.... & preferably not all in one run-on
sentence. ;-)
>
>"Matt" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in message
> news:1186b01c26b9a$8a036890$3b
ef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA10...
>> It seems that my users who have authority to use the pop
>> and smtp server can only recieve mail outside the
>> building, and not send to anyone else other than those
in
>> that blong to the domain I get the error no transport
>> provider was available to....... and the other when i'm
>> testing the server was found but unable to connect .
>>
>> Help me out here
>> anything is welcome
>
>
>
>.
>
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| Lanwench 2002-10-05, 8:32 pm |
| A couple of ideas -
1) Using these PST files isn't the best idea, in that all their data lives
on the laptop, isn't backed up, probably isn't compressed or monitored to
make sure it isn't getting too big, and if the laptop breaks/gets
stolen/whatnot, there will be a lot of wailing. You could implement RAS or
VPN, import the PST contents to the mailbox and get rid of the Outlook PST
service, and have the users work in the Exchange mailbox, syncing to an OST
file for offline use. This is a much more manageable way to go. They could
use the same profile all the time, then. Also, they could use OWA, and take
advantage of sharing & public folders, which they can't do right now.
2) If for some reason that isn't possible, check the SMTP server settings.
If you want the users to be able to send through your SMTP server, you need
to set up the server to allow users who authenticate to relay, and set up
their Outlook's SMTP server settings to authenticate using the same
credentials as for the POP account.
Personally, I like #1. :-)
"Matthew" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in message
news:f5de01c26ba7$f34326d0$36e
f2ecf@tkmsftngxa12...
> Hi, sorry about the lack of Info.
> My Laptop users are trying to send email to people outside
> of the lan. They are using outlook 2000 and i have created
> 2 profiles one with Exchange server for use within and one
> with IMS for use without. Both use the same PST file and
> the configuration are set as per normal use no ssl and
> secure authentication. We had them running Outlook express
> but there just isnt the comfort of only using the same
> client. If you need more info email me. I could reaaly use
> a hand in this.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Need more info.... & preferably not all in one run-on
> sentence. ;-)
> >
> >"Matt" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in message
> > news:1186b01c26b9a$8a036890$3b
ef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA10...
> >> It seems that my users who have authority to use the pop
> >> and smtp server can only recieve mail outside the
> >> building, and not send to anyone else other than those
> in
> >> that blong to the domain I get the error no transport
> >> provider was available to....... and the other when i'm
> >> testing the server was found but unable to connect .
> >>
> >> Help me out here
> >> anything is welcome
> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
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| Matthew 2002-10-05, 8:32 pm |
| You a smart cookie!
I have checked to ensure that relaying is enabled only to
those who authenticate.
I have also tried using the OWA method the heads dont
think that a very secure way to go.
the pst files that i'm using for both the exchange service
and the IMS wont fit on my server.... Damn jackasses!!!
These People keep upwards of 7000 emails I have everyone
restricted to 100 megs on the server.... I only have 16
gigs to work with on a compaq proliant. Imagine my
frustration. So I too like the 1st method but needs some
elaboration. We should chat... You seem to know what yer
talkin about
>-----Original Message-----
>A couple of ideas -
>
>1) Using these PST files isn't the best idea, in that all
their data lives
>on the laptop, isn't backed up, probably isn't compressed
or monitored to
>make sure it isn't getting too big, and if the laptop
breaks/gets
>stolen/whatnot, there will be a lot of wailing. You could
implement RAS or
>VPN, import the PST contents to the mailbox and get rid
of the Outlook PST
>service, and have the users work in the Exchange mailbox,
syncing to an OST
>file for offline use. This is a much more manageable way
to go. They could
>use the same profile all the time, then. Also, they could
use OWA, and take
>advantage of sharing & public folders, which they can't
do right now.
>
>2) If for some reason that isn't possible, check the SMTP
server settings.
>If you want the users to be able to send through your
SMTP server, you need
>to set up the server to allow users who authenticate to
relay, and set up
>their Outlook's SMTP server settings to authenticate
using the same
>credentials as for the POP account.
>
>Personally, I like #1. :-)
>
>
>"Matthew" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in
message
> news:f5de01c26ba7$f34326d0$36e
f2ecf@tkmsftngxa12...
>> Hi, sorry about the lack of Info.
>> My Laptop users are trying to send email to people
outside
>> of the lan. They are using outlook 2000 and i have
created
>> 2 profiles one with Exchange server for use within and
one
>> with IMS for use without. Both use the same PST file and
>> the configuration are set as per normal use no ssl and
>> secure authentication. We had them running Outlook
express
>> but there just isnt the comfort of only using the same
>> client. If you need more info email me. I could reaaly
use
>> a hand in this.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Need more info.... & preferably not all in one run-on
>> sentence. ;-)
>> >
>> >"Matt" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in
message
>> > news:1186b01c26b9a$8a036890$3b
ef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA10...
>> >> It seems that my users who have authority to use the
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>> >> and smtp server can only recieve mail outside the
>> >> building, and not send to anyone else other than[/color]
those
>> in
>> >> that blong to the domain I get the error no transport
>> >> provider was available to....... and the other when
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>> >> testing the server was found but unable to connect .
>> >>
>> >> Help me out here
>> >> anything is welcome
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
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>[/color]
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| Lanwench 2002-10-05, 8:32 pm |
| Youch - they don't think OWA is secure but they don't mind transmitting your
POP credentials across the Internet in clear text? They're so wrong - look
into implementing SSL/128-bit encryption on OWA. Has anyone ever lost a PST
file and come to you crying? A couple of times of that, & maybe they'll pay
attention...
As Frasier Crane says, "I'm listening..."
"Matthew" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in message
news:feda01c26bb3$6b09d640$37e
f2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA13...
> You a smart cookie!
> I have checked to ensure that relaying is enabled only to
> those who authenticate.
> I have also tried using the OWA method the heads dont
> think that a very secure way to go.
> the pst files that i'm using for both the exchange service
> and the IMS wont fit on my server.... Damn jackasses!!!
> These People keep upwards of 7000 emails I have everyone
> restricted to 100 megs on the server.... I only have 16
> gigs to work with on a compaq proliant. Imagine my
> frustration. So I too like the 1st method but needs some
> elaboration. We should chat... You seem to know what yer
> talkin about
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >A couple of ideas -
> >
> >1) Using these PST files isn't the best idea, in that all
> their data lives
> >on the laptop, isn't backed up, probably isn't compressed
> or monitored to
> >make sure it isn't getting too big, and if the laptop
> breaks/gets
> >stolen/whatnot, there will be a lot of wailing. You could
> implement RAS or
> >VPN, import the PST contents to the mailbox and get rid
> of the Outlook PST
> >service, and have the users work in the Exchange mailbox,
> syncing to an OST
> >file for offline use. This is a much more manageable way
> to go. They could
> >use the same profile all the time, then. Also, they could
> use OWA, and take
> >advantage of sharing & public folders, which they can't
> do right now.
> >
> >2) If for some reason that isn't possible, check the SMTP
> server settings.
> >If you want the users to be able to send through your
> SMTP server, you need
> >to set up the server to allow users who authenticate to
> relay, and set up
> >their Outlook's SMTP server settings to authenticate
> using the same
> >credentials as for the POP account.
> >
> >Personally, I like #1. :-)
> >
> >
> >"Matthew" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in
> message
> > news:f5de01c26ba7$f34326d0$36e
f2ecf@tkmsftngxa12...
> >> Hi, sorry about the lack of Info.
> >> My Laptop users are trying to send email to people
> outside
> >> of the lan. They are using outlook 2000 and i have
> created
> >> 2 profiles one with Exchange server for use within and
> one
> >> with IMS for use without. Both use the same PST file and
> >> the configuration are set as per normal use no ssl and
> >> secure authentication. We had them running Outlook
> express
> >> but there just isnt the comfort of only using the same
> >> client. If you need more info email me. I could reaaly
> use
> >> a hand in this.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Need more info.... & preferably not all in one run-on
> >> sentence. ;-)
> >> >
> >> >"Matt" <mhickey@mackinnontransport.com> wrote in
> message
> >> > news:1186b01c26b9a$8a036890$3b
ef2ecf@TKMSFTNGXA10...
> >> >> It seems that my users who have authority to use the
> pop
> >> >> and smtp server can only recieve mail outside the
> >> >> building, and not send to anyone else other than
> those
> >> in
> >> >> that blong to the domain I get the error no transport
> >> >> provider was available to....... and the other when
> i'm
> >> >> testing the server was found but unable to connect .
> >> >>
> >> >> Help me out here
> >> >> anything is welcome
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >
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