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Author Application for Membership & Newspaper.
Muhammad Zaheer

2004-01-15, 2:23 am

Hello
Please send me also latest news about the community of
MCSD.

Regards,

Muhammad Zaheer
Lahore-Pakistan.
Schfooge

2004-01-15, 3:24 am

"Muhammad Zaheer" <mzaheer12@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hello
> Please send me also latest news about the community of
> MCSD.
>
> Regards,
>
> Muhammad Zaheer
> Lahore-Pakistan.


This sounds like something out of the "You might be a
braindumper if..." thread. Something like... "You might
be an English impaired Indian MCSD wannabe if...
you think a newsgroup is where you subscribe to a
newspaper."


kumar

2004-01-15, 4:24 am

Excuse me.. I find some racial sensitive wording around
here.. If you think Indians are english impaired..Are you
Brain impaired??.. Hold onto your horses buddy.. Your
technical expertise does not give you an automatic license
to abuse on other country people..



>-----Original Message-----
>"Muhammad Zaheer" <mzaheer12@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:096801c3db35$d08e6b50$a30
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>
>This sounds like something out of the "You might be a
>braindumper if..." thread. Something like... "You might
>be an English impaired Indian MCSD wannabe if...
>you think a newsgroup is where you subscribe to a
>newspaper."
>
>
>.
>

Hermit Dave

2004-01-15, 4:24 am

Well yes i do accept the fact that a lot of indians - do use impaired
english. But it does sounds a bit racial.... (mind you that doesnt mean
everyone does...)
Plus you do a lot of MCSD wannabe's though MCSDs for rest of the world >
MCSDs in India probably wouldnt last that long..

Dont worry i dont live or work in india anymore but (when you say indians..
it does bind me into the lot)

--
Regards,

HD

Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
"Schfooge" <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:IIrNb.157611$AAe1.116513@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...
> "Muhammad Zaheer" <mzaheer12@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:096801c3db35$d08e6b50$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
>
> This sounds like something out of the "You might be a
> braindumper if..." thread. Something like... "You might
> be an English impaired Indian MCSD wannabe if...
> you think a newsgroup is where you subscribe to a
> newspaper."
>
>



kumar

2004-01-15, 1:24 pm

Oh ya. I do accept the fact that some indian postings
around here suggest you that most of the indians are
english impaired..But let me tell you, If you look at the
outer world, where english is not official spoken laguage,
you will be amazed at the number of quality english
speakers in india.. Here I am not trying to brag about the
languge skills of my country.., but there is a reason why
you see so much broken english here around.. There is so
much hiring in india now a days as the software boom is
continuing.. They hire even an arts and science student ,
if he has some maths background.. coz they come cheap..
and they train the guys in the areas the company need..
But they dont train these guys in proper english.. that
leaves them way behind people other people.. And when a
person comes onto the field..., well his next destination
is obviously some MCSD or MCAD or some other big thing...
anyway mind YOU guys..
*English is not an Official Language in INDIA*. You
should appreaciate the fact that even then there is so
much quality english coming from that country...


>-----Original Message-----
>Well yes i do accept the fact that a lot of indians - do

use impaired
>english. But it does sounds a bit racial.... (mind you

that doesnt mean
>everyone does...)
>Plus you do a lot of MCSD wannabe's though MCSDs for rest

of the world >
>MCSDs in India probably wouldnt last that long..
>
>Dont worry i dont live or work in india anymore but (when

you say indians..
>it does bind me into the lot)
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>HD
>
>Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
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Syanide

2004-01-15, 1:24 pm

sorry to say but... is this >"Muhammad Zaheer" not the same guy advertising
for braindumps a while back...


"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Excuse me.. I find some racial sensitive wording around
> here.. If you think Indians are english impaired..Are you
> Brain impaired??.. Hold onto your horses buddy.. Your
> technical expertise does not give you an automatic license
> to abuse on other country people..
>
>
>


Hermit Dave

2004-01-15, 5:26 pm

who gives a toss.. can be braindumper for all i care...

--
Regards,

HD

Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
"Syanide" <me@knowhere.com> wrote in message
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> sorry to say but... is this >"Muhammad Zaheer" not the same guy

advertising
> for braindumps a while back...
>
>
> "kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:09ca01c3db41$d3084e80$a30
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>
>



Hermit Dave

2004-01-15, 5:26 pm

oye... i grew up there... so don't get me started... yes english is not the
official language but it doesn't matter... i just commented on the fact the
it did sound like a racial comment
i have been across india in the 24 years was there from gujarat to assam
from delhi to chennai... i know what languages are spoken and how good...
infact whatever broken a lot of people speak is good enough to try and
understand..

my only point was that don't generalize... and yes there are crazy people
who come around here... (well rather lame... ) who can find a news group to
ask where to get info on mcsd but not go to microsoft site... they cant be
that lame that they come around here asking for directions to microsoft.com
and not to forget asking for dumps as well... c'mon guys... its okay if you
don't know proper english but atleast don't make fun of the system.

--
Regards,

HD

Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Oh ya. I do accept the fact that some indian postings
> around here suggest you that most of the indians are
> english impaired..But let me tell you, If you look at the
> outer world, where english is not official spoken laguage,
> you will be amazed at the number of quality english
> speakers in india.. Here I am not trying to brag about the
> languge skills of my country.., but there is a reason why
> you see so much broken english here around.. There is so
> much hiring in india now a days as the software boom is
> continuing.. They hire even an arts and science student ,
> if he has some maths background.. coz they come cheap..
> and they train the guys in the areas the company need..
> But they dont train these guys in proper english.. that
> leaves them way behind people other people.. And when a
> person comes onto the field..., well his next destination
> is obviously some MCSD or MCAD or some other big thing...
> anyway mind YOU guys..
> *English is not an Official Language in INDIA*. You
> should appreaciate the fact that even then there is so
> much quality english coming from that country...
>
>
> use impaired
> that doesnt mean
> of the world >
> you say indians..
> message
> $AAe1.116513@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com...


jackass@jerk.com

2004-01-15, 8:26 pm

Yoh dudeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
jerkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
son of aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

First of all get ur geo right.
he is from pakistan.
That is not india OK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
KKKK

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKK
KKKKKKKK

Then come n talk abouttttttttttttttttttt
tech stuffffffffffffffffffff

U r no matchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>-----Original Message-----
>"Muhammad Zaheer" <mzaheer12@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:096801c3db35$d08e6b50$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
>
>This sounds like something out of the "You might be a
>braindumper if..." thread. Something like... "You might
>be an English impaired Indian MCSD wannabe if...
>you think a newsgroup is where you subscribe to a
>newspaper."
>
>
>.
>

kumar

2004-01-15, 8:26 pm

haha.. its good to hear you know about india quite well..
Well i was pissed of about people who make fun of the
people's english rather than care about what they are
asking..You dont have to be a shakespeare to work in
computer field.. Some people are always behind others in
some aspects.. I know there are so many lame posters
here.. just cant help to make them as smart as u r ;-)..
Anyway easy buddy.. I am not critisizing u.. its the
frustration built up all these days seeing all those
negative answers..

>-----Original Message-----
>oye... i grew up there... so don't get me started... yes

english is not the
>official language but it doesn't matter... i just

commented on the fact the
>it did sound like a racial comment
>i have been across india in the 24 years was there from

gujarat to assam
>from delhi to chennai... i know what languages are spoken

and how good...
>infact whatever broken a lot of people speak is good

enough to try and
>understand..
>
>my only point was that don't generalize... and yes there

are crazy people
>who come around here... (well rather lame... ) who can

find a news group to
>ask where to get info on mcsd but not go to microsoft

site... they cant be
>that lame that they come around here asking for

directions to microsoft.com
>and not to forget asking for dumps as well... c'mon

guys... its okay if you
>don't know proper english but atleast don't make fun of

the system.
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>HD
>
>Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
>"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

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Hermit Dave

2004-01-15, 8:26 pm

imagine the frustration of actually working hard and getting a cert... when
people come around asking for dumps...
not to forget (some having just heard the buzzword ... MCSD... i know its
all in good faith but still)
the spirit of MCSD is not in the certification... but in making yourself
feel good bout your knowledge...


--
Regards,

HD

Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> haha.. its good to hear you know about india quite well..
> Well i was pissed of about people who make fun of the
> people's english rather than care about what they are
> asking..You dont have to be a shakespeare to work in
> computer field.. Some people are always behind others in
> some aspects.. I know there are so many lame posters
> here.. just cant help to make them as smart as u r ;-)..
> Anyway easy buddy.. I am not critisizing u.. its the
> frustration built up all these days seeing all those
> negative answers..
>
> english is not the
> commented on the fact the
> gujarat to assam
> and how good...
> enough to try and
> are crazy people
> find a news group to
> site... they cant be
> directions to microsoft.com
> guys... its okay if you
> the system.
> message
> the
> laguage,
> the
> why
> student ,
> destination
> thing...
> do
> rest
> (when
> message
> community of
> might


JaR

2004-01-15, 8:26 pm


"jackass@jerk.com"

Kinda says it all. Dude.

What are you, 12?

JaR
Sarcastic Thug


Hermit Dave

2004-01-15, 9:25 pm

> here.. just cant help to make them as smart as u r ;-)..

And thanks for the compliment...

--
Regards,

HD

Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:068901c3dbc9$854559d0$a10
1280a@phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> haha.. its good to hear you know about india quite well..
> Well i was pissed of about people who make fun of the
> people's english rather than care about what they are
> asking..You dont have to be a shakespeare to work in
> computer field.. Some people are always behind others in
> some aspects.. I know there are so many lame posters
> here.. just cant help to make them as smart as u r ;-)..
> Anyway easy buddy.. I am not critisizing u.. its the
> frustration built up all these days seeing all those
> negative answers..
>
> english is not the
> commented on the fact the
> gujarat to assam
> and how good...
> enough to try and
> are crazy people
> find a news group to
> site... they cant be
> directions to microsoft.com
> guys... its okay if you
> the system.
> message
> the
> laguage,
> the
> why
> student ,
> destination
> thing...
> do
> rest
> (when
> message
> community of
> might


Schfooge

2004-01-15, 10:24 pm

"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:09ca01c3db41$d3084e80$a30
1280a@phx.gbl...
> Excuse me.. I find some racial sensitive wording around
> here.. If you think Indians are english impaired..Are you
> Brain impaired??.. Hold onto your horses buddy.. Your
> technical expertise does not give you an automatic license
> to abuse on other country people..
>


I said "English impaired Indian MCSD wannabe". I was
saying this person was English-impared AND Indian. If
I was implying that all Indians were English-impared, I would
not have to state both, as the English-impaired part would
be implicit in the Indian part. If you think this statement
means I am racist, then you sir, are both English-impaired
AND brain-impaired.


[color=blue]
>
>


Anti MSCNG Fag Patrol

2004-01-15, 10:24 pm

I'd like to apologize to all of my non American born
counterparts for the shame that the local perverts have
brought us.Please know that not all of us Americans are
racists,fags,perverts,opiniona
ted bitchs,etc. which is
what you will find a great deal of at these message boards.
Unfortunately,American magistrates are currently having
trouble deciding what the proper use of both male and
female genitalia is designed for.Thus,those that advocate
such perversions feel overconfident in expressing their
views in public whereas prior to this phenomenon,would be
publically euthenized.Feel free to advertise all the
factual references to current study guides and ignore the
local cocksmoking minions and their profane and
opinionated bullshit.



>-----Original Message-----
>imagine the frustration of actually working hard and

getting a cert... when
>people come around asking for dumps...
>not to forget (some having just heard the buzzword ...

MCSD... i know its
>all in good faith but still)
>the spirit of MCSD is not in the certification... but in

making yourself
>feel good bout your knowledge...
>
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>HD
>
>Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
>"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

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Schfooge

2004-01-15, 11:24 pm


"jackass@jerk.com" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Yoh dudeeeeeeeeeeeeee,
> jerkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
> son of aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>
> First of all get ur geo right.
> he is from pakistan.
> That is not india OK OOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
KKKK
>
> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKK
KKKKKKKK
>
> Then come n talk abouttttttttttttttttttt
> tech stuffffffffffffffffffff
>


There are no h's in "yo".
There is only 1 e in "dude".
There is only 1 k in Jerk.
The is only 1 a in "a".
"Son of a" is a sentence fragment.
"Your" is not spelled "ur".
Abbreviations such as "geo" should be followed by a period.
Words at the beginning of a sentence should be capitalized.
Interjections should be separated from the rest of the sentence
by a comma. As in "That is not India, OK?"
The "OK" makes the sentence into a question, so a question
mark is required.
"Oooooooooooooooook Oooooooooooooooook!" sounds like
the noises monkeys make (apprpriately).
"And" is not spelled "n".
There is only 1 t in "about".
There is only 1 f in "stuff".
"Then come and talk about tech stuff" is a sentence fragment.

I admit, I should have said "Pakastani", instead of "Indian" in this
case. But you have to admit there have been several cases
of English being mangled by Indians as well as Pakistanis - and
to be honest, more than a few Americans mangle the language
too.

So I say to you:

Yo, dude!
Jerk!
Son of a (explitive deleted)!

First of all get your English right.
You're talking gibberish.
That is not English, OK?
OK?
OK?

Learn English, then come here and talk
about tech stuff.



Schfooge

2004-01-15, 11:24 pm

"Anti MSCNG Fag Patrol" <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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> I'd like to apologize to all of my non American born
> counterparts for the shame that the local perverts have
> brought us.Please know that not all of us Americans are
> racists,fags,perverts,opiniona
ted bitchs,etc.


The impact of your rant is severely diminished by the
homophobic and mysoginistic language that it is couched
in.


Schfooge

2004-01-15, 11:24 pm

"Anti MSCNG Fag Patrol" <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:076601c3dbdb$88dbe8e0$a10
1280a@phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> I'd like to apologize to all of my non American born
> counterparts for the shame that the local perverts have
> brought us.Please know that not all of us Americans are
> racists,fags,perverts,opiniona
ted bitchs,etc. which is
> what you will find a great deal of at these message boards.
> Unfortunately,American magistrates are currently having
> trouble deciding what the proper use of both male and
> female genitalia is designed for.Thus,those that advocate
> such perversions feel overconfident in expressing their
> views in public whereas prior to this phenomenon,would be
> publically euthenized.Feel free to advertise all the
> factual references to current study guides and ignore the
> local cocksmoking minions and their profane and
> opinionated bullshit.
>
>
>
> getting a cert... when
> MCSD... i know its
> making yourself
> message
> well..
> yes
> spoken
> there
> about
> is so
> is
> cheap..
> need..
> that
> when a
> so
> indians -
> you
> in
> be a


kumar

2004-01-15, 11:24 pm

haha.. nice.. you are smart .. I agree.. but you do not
have to mention a country's name when u criticise a
person....it sends wrong signals to some people.. I can
give you an analogy by saying *ugly (Your country's name)
XXX*, (Excuse me here.. its just an analogy..) infact I am
just criticsing you, but implicitly I am criticsing your
country too..thats wrong .. isnt it...

More over that guy is a Pakistani... Thats one more
mistake on your part..


>-----Original Message-----
>"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

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>
>I said "English impaired Indian MCSD wannabe". I was
>saying this person was English-impared AND Indian. If
>I was implying that all Indians were English-impared, I

would
>not have to state both, as the English-impaired part would
>be implicit in the Indian part. If you think this

statement
>means I am racist, then you sir, are both English-impaired
>AND brain-impaired.
>
>
>
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Anti MCNGP Fag Patrol

2004-01-16, 12:24 am

Do you know what "mysoginistic" means?By definition,the
only remote possibility that you have used this word to
reference or describe my post would be my usage of the
word "opinionated XXXXX",as a retort to the racist enuendo
of the previously referenced post.Otherwise,you identify
yourself with this reference in the context of deviant
behavior. Coupled with your reference to the same
as "homophobic" ,do you interpret my post as
both "homophobic" and "mysoginistic" as you are a
homosexual who engages in sodomy,therefore qualifying
yourself ,in your own mind and perhaps your
likeminded "life partner",as a "woman"?

>-----Original Message-----
>"Anti MSCNG Fag Patrol"

<DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>message news:076601c3dbdb$88dbe8e0$a10
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>
>The impact of your rant is severely diminished by the
>homophobic and mysoginistic language that it is couched
>in.
>
>
>.
>

Schfooge

2004-01-16, 2:24 am

"kumar" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> haha.. nice.. you are smart .. I agree.. but you do not
> have to mention a country's name when u criticise a
> person....it sends wrong signals to some people.. I can
> give you an analogy by saying *ugly (Your country's name)
> XXX*, (Excuse me here.. its just an analogy..) infact I am
> just criticsing you, but implicitly I am criticsing your
> country too..thats wrong .. isnt it...


Not really, if you made a remark about my "ugly Canadian
XXX", it might offend me for the personal insult, but it doesn't
sound to me like a blanket insult to Canadians. However, I
admit it might sound that way to more sensitive ears.

What I was poking fun at was the recurring pattern in posts to
this group that almost always seems to have the following
earmarks:
- the post is in broken, poorly spelled English
- the poster seems to have little or no idea what a newsgroup
is or how to use it properly
- the poster has a name that indicates that they are from
a country in the general vicinity of India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, etc.

I wasn't trying to make a dig at the specific nationality of these
posters so much as mock the contradiction of someone who
can't figure out Usenet looking for a certification that's supposed
to indicate skill in a technical field.


Schfooge

2004-01-16, 2:24 am

"Anti MCNGP Fag Patrol" <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:081801c3dbeb$776e7130$a10
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> Do you know what "mysoginistic" means?By definition,the
> only remote possibility that you have used this word to
> reference or describe my post would be my usage of the
> word "opinionated XXXXX",as a retort to the racist enuendo
> of the previously referenced post.Otherwise,you identify
> yourself with this reference in the context of deviant
> behavior. Coupled with your reference to the same
> as "homophobic" ,do you interpret my post as
> both "homophobic" and "mysoginistic" as you are a
> homosexual who engages in sodomy,therefore qualifying
> yourself ,in your own mind and perhaps your
> likeminded "life partner",as a "woman"?



Feminists object to the use of the word XXXXX in any
context, as it historically was an insult to women.
To call a man a XXXXX is essentially the same as calling
them a nasty tempered woman.

As for the rest of your delusional rant, I said that your
language was working against the impact of your ranting.
I didn't say that I was personally offended by it.
You are quite cleary homophobic, as your constant
references to "fags" and "sodomy" indicate. In fact it
seems that you are the one who has issues with
homosexuality.

I was merely pointing out that it is hypocritical
to get on a soapbox and carry on againt supposed slights
against minorities, when your language is very biased against
other minorities.


Anti MCNGP Fag patrol

2004-01-16, 2:24 am

I'm glad to hear you have an authoritative opinion on the
context of insults between men.And what "minority" ,in
your opinion,can you qualify that I am "biased" against
in any post or do you simply bear false witness?
Or should I assume that you think sexual deviancy qualifys
any individual for "minority" status?That being the
case,perhaps you could elaborate on pedophilia and the
minority identified accordingly with your profound
analysis.



>-----Original Message-----
>"Anti MCNGP Fag Patrol"

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>
>
>Feminists object to the use of the word XXXXX in any
>context, as it historically was an insult to women.
>To call a man a XXXXX is essentially the same as calling
>them a nasty tempered woman.
>
>As for the rest of your delusional rant, I said that your
>language was working against the impact of your ranting.
>I didn't say that I was personally offended by it.
>You are quite cleary homophobic, as your constant
>references to "fags" and "sodomy" indicate. In fact it
>seems that you are the one who has issues with
>homosexuality.
>
>I was merely pointing out that it is hypocritical
>to get on a soapbox and carry on againt supposed slights
>against minorities, when your language is very biased

against
>other minorities.
>
>
>.
>

Schfooge

2004-01-16, 3:24 am

"Anti MCNGP Fag patrol" <DieSodomites@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:08ae01c3dbfc$94db7e00$a10
1280a@phx.gbl...
> I'm glad to hear you have an authoritative opinion on the
> context of insults between men.And what "minority" ,in
> your opinion,can you qualify that I am "biased" against
> in any post or do you simply bear false witness?
> Or should I assume that you think sexual deviancy qualifys
> any individual for "minority" status?That being the
> case,perhaps you could elaborate on pedophilia and the
> minority identified accordingly with your profound
> analysis.


The minority I was referring to was homosexuals.
That should be clear to anyone who's not an idiot.
And I never claimed to have an authoritative opionion
about anything. One doesn't need to be a genius to
see through the invective of a mental midget such as
yourself.
And who said anything about pedophilia? I just stated
that your language would be found objectionable by
homosexuals and feminists, and somehow you've
inferred that I'm a supporter of pedophilia.

I think you've got serious issues, buddy.
[color=blue]
>
>
>
> <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> enuendo
> against


Anti MCNGP Fag Patrol

2004-01-16, 9:23 am

So you discriminate against 1 group of deviants
yourself,yet grant "minority status" to another and
conclude that ,I've "got serious issues, buddy"?
Uninteresting how you equate race and a particular sexual
perversion as equals, selectively.Your opinionation is
trite at best and it is good and well that you see me as
an opposite of yourself.

>-----Original Message-----
>"Anti MCNGP Fag patrol"

<DieSodomites@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>message news:08ae01c3dbfc$94db7e00$a10
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the[color=blue]
qualifys[color=blue]
>
>The minority I was referring to was homosexuals.
>That should be clear to anyone who's not an idiot.
>And I never claimed to have an authoritative opionion
>about anything. One doesn't need to be a genius to
>see through the invective of a mental midget such as
>yourself.
>And who said anything about pedophilia? I just stated
>that your language would be found objectionable by
>homosexuals and feminists, and somehow you've
>inferred that I'm a supporter of pedophilia.
>
>I think you've got serious issues, buddy.
>
definition,the[color=blue]
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>
>
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>

Cindy Winegarden

2004-01-16, 11:24 am

In news: OoLNb.59416$%wh.33948@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com,
Schfooge <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote:
> Feminists object to the use of the word XXXXX in any
> context...


Hmmm ..... What about when breeding dogs?

--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.winegarden@mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com



Cindy Winegarden

2004-01-16, 11:24 am

In news: 096801c3db35$d08e6b50$a301280a
@phx.gbl,
Muhammad Zaheer <mzaheer12@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Please send me also latest news about the community of
> MCSD.


Hi Muhammad,

Perhaps you are referring to the MCP Magazine. You can subscribe at
http://subscribe.101com.com/mcpmag/. You'll need your MCP number.
Unfortunately, most of the articles appeal to MCSEs and not MCSDs.

--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.winegarden@mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com



=?Windows-1252?Q?Frisbee=AE_MCNGP?=

2004-01-16, 1:25 pm

Schfooge wrote:
> There is only 1 f in "stuff".


Dang... you nearly got a 100% on that.

Oh, well, 99% is still an A+

--
Fris "Where's my apple?" beeŽ MCNGP #13

http://www.mcngp.tk
The MCNGP Team - We're here to help

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AntiMCNGP Fag Patrol

2004-01-16, 7:23 pm

Thank you Cindy.Schfooge has personally identified herself
with my vernacular in my apology to foreign nationals who
are constantly being slighted racially at these boards by
the aforementioned.Unfortunately,she now has it that I'm a
racist/bigot of sorts as I refer to these 2 legged dogs
who perpetuate this activity with as negative a cliche
that I can spell.If feminists object to my usage of common
definitions of deviant behaviour,including references to
all manner or sexual perversions,then I can only assume
that they subscribe to the same which she adamantly denys
after objecting.By definition,if you want to insult the
entire human race by equating specific sexual deviants
with minority races by granting the deviants "minority
status" in your objections to to my usage of common
phraseology which defines their deviancy,you need to do so
for all manner of deviants.Otherwise,you set yourself up
as a hypocrite in the process of denying the variations
you don't like or don't know about.It doesn't matter that
you favor sodomy or homosexuals that practice it.The fact
that they do does not make me or anyone
else "homophobic",it just makes them homosexuals.If you
are homosexual, or an "opinionated XXXXX",you have the
right to feel insulted.Next time,don't take the bait.I
didn't plant it for you,so spit in back out because it
does not belong to you.


>-----Original Message-----
>In news: OoLNb.59416$%

wh.33948@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com,
>Schfooge <schfooge@NOSPAMFORME.rogers.com> wrote:
>
>Hmmm ..... What about when breeding dogs?
>
>--
>Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
>cindy.winegarden@mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com
>
>
>
>.
>

Lorne Smith

2004-01-19, 7:24 am

Hmm.... Judging by your use of English... Are you a lawyer? hehehe

Just couldn't resist that one.... Seriously though... In such a
multilingual environment, is it really such a good idea to use such complex
terminology when a lot of people reading it may not understand it? In fact,
I'd be surprised if all the english speaking people in here understood it
too!!

Lorne

"AntiMCNGP Fag Patrol" <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:022b01c3dc85$b4315980$a50
1280a@phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thank you Cindy.Schfooge has personally identified herself
> with my vernacular in my apology to foreign nationals who
> are constantly being slighted racially at these boards by
> the aforementioned.Unfortunately,she now has it that I'm a
> racist/bigot of sorts as I refer to these 2 legged dogs
> who perpetuate this activity with as negative a cliche
> that I can spell.If feminists object to my usage of common
> definitions of deviant behaviour,including references to
> all manner or sexual perversions,then I can only assume
> that they subscribe to the same which she adamantly denys
> after objecting.By definition,if you want to insult the
> entire human race by equating specific sexual deviants
> with minority races by granting the deviants "minority
> status" in your objections to to my usage of common
> phraseology which defines their deviancy,you need to do so
> for all manner of deviants.Otherwise,you set yourself up
> as a hypocrite in the process of denying the variations
> you don't like or don't know about.It doesn't matter that
> you favor sodomy or homosexuals that practice it.The fact
> that they do does not make me or anyone
> else "homophobic",it just makes them homosexuals.If you
> are homosexual, or an "opinionated XXXXX",you have the
> right to feel insulted.Next time,don't take the bait.I
> didn't plant it for you,so spit in back out because it
> does not belong to you.
>
>
> wh.33948@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com,


Hermit Dave

2004-01-19, 9:23 pm

have to agree... lawyer!!!...
guess most did... if they didnt.. you probably lost them a while back
:-)
--
Regards,
HD
Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
"Lorne Smith" <no@spam.here> wrote in message
news:OXPKJMo3DHA.2428@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hmm.... Judging by your use of English... Are you a lawyer? hehehe
>
> Just couldn't resist that one.... Seriously though... In such a
> multilingual environment, is it really such a good idea to use such
> complex
> terminology when a lot of people reading it may not understand it? In
> fact,
> I'd be surprised if all the english speaking people in here understood it
> too!!
>
> Lorne
>
> "AntiMCNGP Fag Patrol" <DieSodomite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:022b01c3dc85$b4315980$a50
1280a@phx.gbl...
>
>



The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-20, 4:23 pm

>I agree.. but you do not
>have to mention a country's name when u criticise a
>person....


Why not? Many of the stupid questions which are posted to these ng's
are by non American's or at least people with non western names, go
figure... And don't come back with the 'racist' remark, it's a fact
see for yourself.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-20, 4:23 pm

>Perhaps you are referring to the MCP Magazine. You can subscribe at
>http://subscribe.101com.com/mcpmag/. You'll need your MCP number.
>Unfortunately, most of the articles appeal to MCSEs and not MCSDs.


.... and is not free to anyone out side North America

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-20, 4:23 pm

>Oh, well, 99% is still an A+

What would an mcse be?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
JaR

2004-01-20, 4:23 pm

"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:704r00tqpafbmk2sokbhsip49
p6mfdm2op@4ax.com...
>
> What would an mcse be?
>
>


70% X 7???

JaR
Thug # 350%


The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-20, 5:24 pm

>> >Oh, well, 99% is still an A+
>
>70% X 7???


What about a paper mcse?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
JaR

2004-01-20, 5:24 pm


"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:9d6r001ee4f0d8j3rhqh8v17a
e4jhv749g@4ax.com...
>
> What about a paper mcse?
>
>


Burned

JaR
Thug #451


JaR

2004-01-20, 5:24 pm


"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:9d6r001ee4f0d8j3rhqh8v17a
e4jhv749g@4ax.com...
>
> What about a paper mcse?
>
>


Or maybe dispensed on a long perforated roll hung in a small room with
adequate ventilation and porcelain conveiniences?

JaR
Thug #2ply


Kumar

2004-01-20, 5:24 pm

haha.. here you come.. I was wondering where is that weird guy who never
talks straight and try to play with the so called wicked sarcasm..

Oh ya.. I know the fact.. I also know where, most of the stupid answers come
from.. you dont own microsoft... dont try to bully anyone.. people have
their right to post.. even if it is stupid.. If you get annoyed by that..
you always have the option to ignore... by the way there is high software
professional community outside america... so naturally there would be more
stupid posts coming from there... If you are good enough and have the heart
to help.. do it..

By the way I am expecting you to say something so stupid in reply to this
post.. I can figure out your personality by reading so many of your posts..
so fire up..


"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:kd3r00ld501prcpnq72p4u99n
ba45u9j5j@4ax.com...
>
> Why not? Many of the stupid questions which are posted to these ng's
> are by non American's or at least people with non western names, go
> figure... And don't come back with the 'racist' remark, it's a fact
> see for yourself.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3



JaR

2004-01-20, 6:23 pm

"Kumar" <kumarreddi.RemoveThis@NoSpam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> By the way I am expecting you to say something so stupid in reply to this
> post..


Be hard to beat yours. Probably could be done if Kline had a lobotomy,
though.

Or got really drunk.

JaR
Thug #XXX


The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-21, 8:24 am

>By the way I am expecting you to say something so stupid in reply to this
>post..


No need too, you've already done so.

> I can figure out your personality by reading so many of your posts..
>so fire up..


Why do you bother reading them then?

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-21, 8:24 am

>dont try to bully anyone.. people have
>their right to post.. even if it is stupid..


Absolutely. Freedom of speech is what helps set America above the rest
of the world, and why so many immigrants want to come and live here -
don't see too many American's wanting to go and live in pakistan or
china.

>If you get annoyed by that..
>you always have the option to ignore...


I think most are very funny, and reassures me I have a job for life.

> by the way there is high software professional community outside america...
> so naturally there would be more stupid posts coming from there...


What!!! lol!

Professional people don't post 'stupid' questions.

> If you are good enough and have the heart
> to help.. do it..


I help lot's of people. However, I don't help people who are stupid,
lazy or ignorant people. This profession requires a high level of
initiative which is clearly completely lacking within many of the
people who post questions to these type of forums.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
Kumar

2004-01-21, 12:23 pm


> Absolutely. Freedom of speech is what helps set America above the rest
> of the world, and why so many immigrants want to come and live here -
> don't see too many American's wanting to go and live in pakistan or
> china.


its not just the freedom of speech, which makes the people come here..
America is rich, and thats why people come here to fill their pockets by
contributing what they can.. its the money thats always matters for
anybody.. why do you think so many company's doing offshoring.. not becoz of
freedom of speech, its becoz they can save few bucks... Its the same for
everybody.. Money drives people, no matter if he is bill gates or a street
begger..

>
> I think most are very funny, and reassures me I have a job for life.
>
america...[color=blue]
>
> What!!! lol!
>
> Professional people don't post 'stupid' questions.


stupidity is relative. Something which sounds stupid for you, may not sound
the same for others.. like your answers. I find them so stupid and
unprofessional.. but you get amused by that kind of posts and find them
funny.

>
> I help lot's of people. However, I don't help people who are stupid,
> lazy or ignorant people. This profession requires a high level of
> initiative which is clearly completely lacking within many of the
> people who post questions to these type of forums.


I never supported posts which sound naive.. My point is you cant get better
over night.. Some people are slow and take time to learn.. be it porgramming
or be it etiquette.. so just be easy on them.. When you just start learning
some new stuff, you are bound to fall. That doesnt mean your whole race is
stupid.. Its the learning curve.. which you allready mastered.. so you get
frustrated by looking at others who seem to fall again and again..So
brother, put an end to this silly quibbling and spend your valuable energy
on something useful.. good luck


> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3



The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-21, 1:23 pm

>> > by the way there is high software professional community outside
>america...
>
>stupidity is relative. Something which sounds stupid for you, may not sound
>the same for others..


You mean other stupid people.

> like your answers. I find them so stupid and
>unprofessional..


So you should, that's the whole point of my replies.

> but you get amused by that kind of posts and find them
>funny.


Very funny actually..

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere

2004-01-21, 1:23 pm

>I never supported posts which sound naive.. My point is you cant get better
>over night.. Some people are slow and take time to learn.. be it porgramming
>or be it etiquette.. so just be easy on them.. When you just start learning
>some new stuff, you are bound to fall. That doesnt mean your whole race is
>stupid.. Its the learning curve.. which you allready mastered.. so you get
>frustrated by looking at others who seem to fall again and again..So
>brother, put an end to this silly quibbling and spend your valuable energy
>on something useful.. good luck


It has nothing to do with 'learning'.

My point is this, brother. The whole certification problem has become
a complete sham and it pisses me off as it is not the premiere
certification it is claimed to be. It pisses me off that stupid people
can become 'certified'. It pisses me off that companies (like those
worthless practice test companies) make money by exploiting the
'certification' process. It pisses me off that microsoft don't give a
shit about it, in fact they 'seem' to encourage it.

Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3
Cindy Winegarden

2004-01-21, 1:23 pm

In news: qu3r009a5u062s74bbal516
8ti9ivloo3u@4ax.com
,
The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere <.> wrote:
>
> ... and is not free to anyone out side North America


There is an online version. I'm not sure if it's free outside of North
America but it's a better bet than the print version. There's a combobox for
the Country that includes far more than just US and Canada.
--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
cindy.winegarden@mvps.org www.cindywinegarden.com



Eric

2004-01-21, 5:24 pm

Cindy Winegarden wrote:

> Perhaps you are referring to the MCP Magazine. You can subscribe at
> http://subscribe.101com.com/mcpmag/. You'll need your MCP number.
> Unfortunately, most of the articles appeal to MCSEs and not MCSDs.


And it takes a couple months to get you first mag after you sign up.
Hermit Dave

2004-01-21, 8:24 pm

oye you two... stop bickering...
you are both right in certain ways... and are still bitching bout it.
i think you both should just do you own thing.
Kumar: its good so see you answering posts nicely
Kline: like the fact you sell more kalini books and ofcourse it is indeed
amusing at times

hope this ends here... take it easy

--
Regards,
HD
Once a Geek.... Always a Geek
"The Poster Formerly Known as Kline Sphere" <.> wrote in message
news:20dt00tc38hdnc2oi2eovol65
d4ri4i946@4ax.com...
>
> It has nothing to do with 'learning'.
>
> My point is this, brother. The whole certification problem has become
> a complete sham and it pisses me off as it is not the premiere
> certification it is claimed to be. It pisses me off that stupid people
> can become 'certified'. It pisses me off that companies (like those
> worthless practice test companies) make money by exploiting the
> 'certification' process. It pisses me off that microsoft don't give a
> shit about it, in fact they 'seem' to encourage it.
>
> Kline Sphere (Chalk) MCNGP #3



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