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| Malcolm Chalmers 2003-07-20, 2:23 am |
| Has anyone purchased the "MCAD/MCSD Self-Paced Training Kit: Microsoft® .NET
Core Requirements, Exams 70-305/70-315, 70-306/70-316, 70-310/70-320, and
70-300" books ? See link http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/books/6716.asp
I'm thinking about buying them to train for the MCSD. Can anyone
not/recommend them ?
thanks.
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| Kristopher Johnson 2003-07-20, 11:23 am |
| I used these books to study for MCAD and MCSD. I found them useful as
introductory guides and as outlines for deciding what to study, but they are
not sufficient.
The quality of the content is generally pretty low. Some of the problems
are:
- Many typos and bugs in the code examples.
- Many of the exercises require you to type in hundreds of lines of code
from the book. (I just skipped those exercises.)
- The practice tests only give a score--they don't provide any way for you
to find out which answers you got wrong, and what the correct answers were.
- There were several exam questions for material that was not covered by the
MS texts. The MS 70-300 text, in particular, seemed to have almost nothing
to do with the actual exam. (I strongly recommend the Exam Cram 2 70-300
book.)
They are rather expensive, and not really worth the cost. If money is not a
problem, then I'd recommend getting the MS books and using them as
introductory material. Otherwise, you can probably get by using MSDN and
some of the other publishers' better guides.
-- Kris
"Malcolm Chalmers" <malcolmchalmers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Has anyone purchased the "MCAD/MCSD Self-Paced Training Kit: Microsoft®
..NET
> Core Requirements, Exams 70-305/70-315, 70-306/70-316, 70-310/70-320, and
> 70-300" books ? See link http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/books/6716.asp
>
> I'm thinking about buying them to train for the MCSD. Can anyone
> not/recommend them ?
>
> thanks.
>
>
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| I agree with the previous poster that they do have some value but are not
sufficient in and of themselves.
You don't have to " type in hundreds of lines of code
from the book". Just download the code samples from the MS press website.
I bought the book at 43% off on a bookpool special. (www.bookpool.com)
Don't pay full price! $70 is way too much for these books.
"Kristopher Johnson" <junk@kristopherjohnson.net> wrote in message
news:WVxSa.92498$GL4.24467@rwcrnsc53...
> I used these books to study for MCAD and MCSD. I found them useful as
> introductory guides and as outlines for deciding what to study, but they
are
> not sufficient.
>
> The quality of the content is generally pretty low. Some of the problems
> are:
>
> - Many typos and bugs in the code examples.
>
> - Many of the exercises require you to type in hundreds of lines of code
> from the book. (I just skipped those exercises.)
>
> - The practice tests only give a score--they don't provide any way for you
> to find out which answers you got wrong, and what the correct answers
were.
>
> - There were several exam questions for material that was not covered by
the
> MS texts. The MS 70-300 text, in particular, seemed to have almost
nothing
> to do with the actual exam. (I strongly recommend the Exam Cram 2 70-300
> book.)
>
> They are rather expensive, and not really worth the cost. If money is not
a
> problem, then I'd recommend getting the MS books and using them as
> introductory material. Otherwise, you can probably get by using MSDN and
> some of the other publishers' better guides.
>
> -- Kris
>
>
> "Malcolm Chalmers" <malcolmchalmers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3f1a3426$0$1208$afc38c87@
news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Has anyone purchased the "MCAD/MCSD Self-Paced Training Kit: Microsoft®
> .NET
> > Core Requirements, Exams 70-305/70-315, 70-306/70-316, 70-310/70-320,
and
> > 70-300" books ? See link http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/books/6716.asp
> >
> > I'm thinking about buying them to train for the MCSD. Can anyone
> > not/recommend them ?
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
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| John S 2003-07-21, 12:23 pm |
| I can't recommend them. The few I've seen look like they were written by
monkey.
"Malcolm Chalmers" <malcolmchalmers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3f1a3426$0$1208$afc38c87@
news.optusnet.com.au...
> Has anyone purchased the "MCAD/MCSD Self-Paced Training Kit: Microsoft®
..NET
> Core Requirements, Exams 70-305/70-315, 70-306/70-316, 70-310/70-320, and
> 70-300" books ? See link http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/books/6716.asp
>
> I'm thinking about buying them to train for the MCSD. Can anyone
> not/recommend them ?
>
> thanks.
>
>
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| Paul Britton 2003-07-22, 9:23 pm |
| The MS Press Self-Paced Training Kits do lack in quality in terms of
content and presentation. I've used a couple and they do read as if
they have been written by more than one person (or primate) as they
can contradict themselves and are prone to inconsistent use of
terminologies, as well as all the typos.
I would recommend the Que training guides above the MS Kits as they
give a better overall perspective which takes you through the exam and
beyond. The MS Kits tend to take you only half way to the testing
centre and not necessarily by the most direct route.
Having said that, I have been using the 70-300 training kit from MS
Press. And, I'm regretting it, (my exam is tomorrow). I have never
read such an appalling book. I feel that I would have been beter
prepared for the exam if I had never picked it up.
Paul
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| Mike Maddux 2003-07-24, 1:23 am |
| In article <fa3a9c05.0307221319.c2c18e4@posting.google.com>,
paul.britton@brittonglobalinfo.co.uk says...
>
>The MS Press Self-Paced Training Kits do lack in quality in terms of
>content and presentation. I've used a couple and they do read as if
>they have been written by more than one person (or primate) as they
>can contradict themselves and are prone to inconsistent use of
>terminologies, as well as all the typos.
>
These books are so bad that I'm amazed that they are produced by the same
company that came up with .NET, which in my opinion is an amazing acomplishment.
Not only are these books hopelessly bad, but Microsoft charges a huge amount for
them. Microsoft demonstrates a lack of concern and respect for the programming
community by for foisting these things on the public. Everyone who bought one
should be given double their money back and an apology.
Notice that the authors of these boat anchors are not mentioned on the covers.
Could this be because no one wants their name associated with them?
Any comments from Micro Softies, or, better yet, from authors or editors of
these ridiculous tomes?
Mike
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| Malcolm Chalmers 2003-07-26, 7:23 pm |
| Thanks.
As i have only studied C before and that a few years ago, it sound like this
might be a good place to start.
"Kristopher Johnson" <junk@kristopherjohnson.net> wrote in message
news:WVxSa.92498$GL4.24467@rwcrnsc53...
> I used these books to study for MCAD and MCSD. I found them useful as
> introductory guides and as outlines for deciding what to study, but they
are
> not sufficient.
>
> The quality of the content is generally pretty low. Some of the problems
> are:
>
> - Many typos and bugs in the code examples.
>
> - Many of the exercises require you to type in hundreds of lines of code
> from the book. (I just skipped those exercises.)
>
> - The practice tests only give a score--they don't provide any way for you
> to find out which answers you got wrong, and what the correct answers
were.
>
> - There were several exam questions for material that was not covered by
the
> MS texts. The MS 70-300 text, in particular, seemed to have almost
nothing
> to do with the actual exam. (I strongly recommend the Exam Cram 2 70-300
> book.)
>
> They are rather expensive, and not really worth the cost. If money is not
a
> problem, then I'd recommend getting the MS books and using them as
> introductory material. Otherwise, you can probably get by using MSDN and
> some of the other publishers' better guides.
>
> -- Kris
>
>
> "Malcolm Chalmers" <malcolmchalmers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3f1a3426$0$1208$afc38c87@
news.optusnet.com.au...
> > Has anyone purchased the "MCAD/MCSD Self-Paced Training Kit: Microsoft®
> .NET
> > Core Requirements, Exams 70-305/70-315, 70-306/70-316, 70-310/70-320,
and
> > 70-300" books ? See link http://www.microsoft.com/mspress/books/6716.asp
> >
> > I'm thinking about buying them to train for the MCSD. Can anyone
> > not/recommend them ?
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
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