microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcsd - How many MSCD .NET are there in Brazil ?

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How many MSCD .NET are there in Brazil ?

Ivancleber

2003-03-30, 10:23 pm

Does anyone know how many mcsd .net there are in Brazil ?
And mcad's ?

Thanks

test

2003-03-31, 7:23 am

I don't know of any MCSD .NET in Brazil yet.

Paulo Reichert

2003-03-31, 7:23 am

I'm Brazilian, but I'm not living there today. I would like to know how many
MCSD/MCAD on .NET are there.

--
Cheers,
Paulo
MCAD, MCSD .NET
"test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
news:e6wIDV49CHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I don't know of any MCSD .NET in Brazil yet.
>
>

test

2003-03-31, 8:23 am

Yes, what I meant was "living in Brazil". You're the first brazilian
MCSD.NET I know of. If there are any others, speak up.

test

2003-03-31, 8:23 am

I don't know how many MCADs, but I would estimate based on the messages in
this newsgroup, less than 100 MCADs.

Paulo Reichert

2003-03-31, 8:23 am

The problem in Brazil is that getting certified is not a common practice on
the market, because it costs too much.

Usually, who gets certified does it because his company pays.

How much is costing an exam there in R$?

--
Cheers,
Paulo
MCAD, MCSD .NET
"test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
news:Og6Ylx49CHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I don't know how many MCADs, but I would estimate based on the messages in
> this newsgroup, less than 100 MCADs.
>
>

Fabrício Costa

2003-03-31, 7:23 pm

Hi Paulo!

I'm from Brazil.. :-)

The fee for exams is R$ 215,00 and it is 80% sponsored by Microsoft for
Certified Partners.
We have about 25 MCADS and 10-15 MCSD.NET.

Where are you now?

[]'s
Fabrício Costa
MCAD made in Brazil.

"Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:elapK249CHA.2504@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> The problem in Brazil is that getting certified is not a common practice
on
> the market, because it costs too much.
>
> Usually, who gets certified does it because his company pays.
>
> How much is costing an exam there in R$?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Paulo
> MCAD, MCSD .NET
> "test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
> news:Og6Ylx49CHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I don't know how many MCADs, but I would estimate based on the messages
in
> > this newsgroup, less than 100 MCADs.
> >
> >
>
>

Paulo Reichert

2003-04-01, 1:23 am

I live in Italy from some time...

I was evaluating the possibility to go back to Brazil soon, but I think that
is too risky.

The salaries are too small and there is not vacancies for everybody. I see
some friends of mine that are searching for a job from months and have to go
to work for something around R$ 800,00 because there is no better place.

Where do you live? Is any better at your city?

--
Cheers,
Paulo
MCAD, MCSD .NET
"Fabrício Costa" <fabriciocostaATuolDOTcomDOTbr> wrote in message
news:OHpgks#9CHA.1612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Paulo!
>
> I'm from Brazil.. :-)
>
> The fee for exams is R$ 215,00 and it is 80% sponsored by Microsoft for
> Certified Partners.
> We have about 25 MCADS and 10-15 MCSD.NET.
>
> Where are you now?
>
> []'s
> Fabrício Costa
> MCAD made in Brazil.
>
>
> "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
> news:elapK249CHA.2504@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > The problem in Brazil is that getting certified is not a common practice
> on
> > the market, because it costs too much.
> >
> > Usually, who gets certified does it because his company pays.
> >
> > How much is costing an exam there in R$?
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Paulo
> > MCAD, MCSD .NET
> > "test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
> > news:Og6Ylx49CHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I don't know how many MCADs, but I would estimate based on the
messages
> in

> > > this newsgroup, less than 100 MCADs.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Guilherme Magalhães

2003-04-01, 7:23 am

I'm from Brazil too.

I believe that we have something about 35-40 MCAD's. I know a friend and I
that hold this certification. He's taking the final test for MCSD.NET
tomorrow, and I'm doing it next monday. I think that we have maybe 10-20
MCSD.NET

Why Microsoft don't show us how many people are certified in each country?

--
Guilherme Magalhaes - guilherme@iwire.com.br
MCP(Win2k) - MCSD(C++) - MCAD(C#)

"Fabrício Costa" <fabriciocostaATuolDOTcomDOTbr> wrote in message
news:OHpgks#9CHA.1612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi Paulo!
>
> I'm from Brazil.. :-)
>
> The fee for exams is R$ 215,00 and it is 80% sponsored by Microsoft for
> Certified Partners.
> We have about 25 MCADS and 10-15 MCSD.NET.
>
> Where are you now?
>
> []'s
> Fabrício Costa
> MCAD made in Brazil.
>
>
> "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
> news:elapK249CHA.2504@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > The problem in Brazil is that getting certified is not a common practice
> on
> > the market, because it costs too much.
> >
> > Usually, who gets certified does it because his company pays.
> >
> > How much is costing an exam there in R$?
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Paulo
> > MCAD, MCSD .NET
> > "test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
> > news:Og6Ylx49CHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I don't know how many MCADs, but I would estimate based on the
messages
> in

> > > this newsgroup, less than 100 MCADs.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

test

2003-04-01, 11:23 am

I'm from Brazil too, but live in the U.S. Other than my family, I have no
compelling reasons to move back. I do go there every year or so to visit my
family.

test

2003-04-01, 11:23 am

Good question. That question has been asked many times on this newsgroup,
but Microsoft never responds. I would like to know also.

Fabrício Costa

2003-04-01, 3:23 pm

Xref: nntp3.aus1.giganews.com microsoft.public.cert.exam.mcsd:19314

Hi Paulo!

I live in São Paulo and i think day after day the job martket is being more
difficult but for me, the things are good.. :-)
I hame many friends with experiencie + Microsoft Certificates earning R$
30-40 p/hour here.

[]'s
Fabrício Costa
MCAD Made in Brazil.

"Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:#DzgW3B#CHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I live in Italy from some time...
>
> I was evaluating the possibility to go back to Brazil soon, but I think
that
> is too risky.
>
> The salaries are too small and there is not vacancies for everybody. I see
> some friends of mine that are searching for a job from months and have to
go
> to work for something around R$ 800,00 because there is no better place.
>
> Where do you live? Is any better at your city?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Paulo
> MCAD, MCSD .NET
> "Fabrício Costa" <fabriciocostaATuolDOTcomDOTbr> wrote in message
> news:OHpgks#9CHA.1612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Paulo!
> >
> > I'm from Brazil.. :-)
> >
> > The fee for exams is R$ 215,00 and it is 80% sponsored by Microsoft for
> > Certified Partners.
> > We have about 25 MCADS and 10-15 MCSD.NET.
> >
> > Where are you now?
> >
> > []'s
> > Fabrício Costa
> > MCAD made in Brazil.
> >
> >
> > "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> escreveu na mensagem
> > news:elapK249CHA.2504@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > The problem in Brazil is that getting certified is not a common
practice
> > on
> > > the market, because it costs too much.
> > >
> > > Usually, who gets certified does it because his company pays.
> > >
> > > How much is costing an exam there in R$?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Paulo
> > > MCAD, MCSD .NET
> > > "test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Og6Ylx49CHA.2248@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > I don't know how many MCADs, but I would estimate based on the
> messages
> > in
> > > > this newsgroup, less than 100 MCADs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Paulo Reichert

2003-04-03, 7:23 am

I'm in the same situation. I have no compelling reasons to go back to
Brazil, except by my closest friends and family...

Here at Europe the market is not easy, but is not bad at all. Also, in
Italy, there is really a small number of high qualified professionals on
software engineering and development.

Don't know...

I've been outside Brazil from so many time, passing by many places such as
Canada, Israel, US and Germany, and now Italy that I don't even feel like a
Brazilian any more...

I'm sure I don't want to stay at Italy too long... Maybe move to UK or
Australia to see some different cultures and after that I decide about where
to go... :-)

--
Cheers,
Paulo
MCAD, MCSD .NET
"test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
news:uBoEMEH#CHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I'm from Brazil too, but live in the U.S. Other than my family, I have no
> compelling reasons to move back. I do go there every year or so to visit
my
> family.
>
>
>

Guilherme Magalhães

2003-04-03, 4:23 pm

Paulo,

I hope that someday I'll do what you doing. I'm planning to go to
Australia or New Zealand, but I'm afraid of living away from my relatives
and parents, don't find a cool job or have problems with my English. I know
that I can do absolutely anything very well in software development, but I
don't know how the market is abroad...
Can someone like me get easily a job abroad, in a country like
Australia, New Zealand or in the UK?

--
Guilherme Magalhães - guilherme@iwire.com.br
MCP(Win2k) - MCSD(C++) - MCAD(C#)

"Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uuRjM5d#CHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I'm in the same situation. I have no compelling reasons to go back to
> Brazil, except by my closest friends and family...
>
> Here at Europe the market is not easy, but is not bad at all. Also, in
> Italy, there is really a small number of high qualified professionals on
> software engineering and development.
>
> Don't know...
>
> I've been outside Brazil from so many time, passing by many places such as
> Canada, Israel, US and Germany, and now Italy that I don't even feel like
a
> Brazilian any more...
>
> I'm sure I don't want to stay at Italy too long... Maybe move to UK or
> Australia to see some different cultures and after that I decide about
where
> to go... :-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Paulo
> MCAD, MCSD .NET
> "test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
> news:uBoEMEH#CHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I'm from Brazil too, but live in the U.S. Other than my family, I have
no
> > compelling reasons to move back. I do go there every year or so to visit
> my
> > family.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Guilherme Magalhães

2003-04-03, 4:23 pm

Paulo Reichert

2003-04-04, 3:23 am

I can't tell you for sure, but I have some ideas about the market:

When I went in other countries (all except Italy) I was going just for
stages and courses. Then I received an offer from a company here in Italy
and decided to come here, so, I arrived here with the job secured. After
some time I decided to change job, so, while working for my old company I
started searching for a new one. After two weeks I found a cool job and
there is where I am today.

Now I decided that I want to move to an English speaking country and I'm
trying to figure out how is the market both on Australia and UK and I can
say that there is a lot of interest for qualified people, but they whant you
to move there prior to give you a job.

It means that you have to find a work permit and money enough to go there,
rent an appartment and live for the time where you will be searching a job.
The work permit is not always difficult. Australia has an imigration program
for skilled professionals, where they evaluate your capacities and market
needs and if you have points enough they give you the visa. UK instead
doesn't have a similar program (as I know), but they give you work permits
if you have or a sponsor there or a company that can provide you work
documentation.

If you have some money to expend, you can try to take a look at the services
provided by Oxygen (www.oxygenonline.co.uk). They have a sponsor and
jobseeking program that looks pretty good.

You have a third option: If you are descendant of a European person you can
get double citzenship. My father is German, and so, I have German citzenship
and I can live in any EU country without special visas or permits.

Help it clearify a bit your ideas.

--
Cheers,
Paulo
MCAD, MCSD .NET
"Guilherme Magalhães" <guilherme@iwire.com.br> wrote in message
news:OONpZti#CHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Paulo,
>
> I hope that someday I'll do what you doing. I'm planning to go to
> Australia or New Zealand, but I'm afraid of living away from my relatives
> and parents, don't find a cool job or have problems with my English. I
know
> that I can do absolutely anything very well in software development, but I
> don't know how the market is abroad...
> Can someone like me get easily a job abroad, in a country like
> Australia, New Zealand or in the UK?
>
> --
> Guilherme Magalhães - guilherme@iwire.com.br
> MCP(Win2k) - MCSD(C++) - MCAD(C#)
>
>
> "Paulo Reichert" <paulo_reichert@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uuRjM5d#CHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > I'm in the same situation. I have no compelling reasons to go back to
> > Brazil, except by my closest friends and family...
> >
> > Here at Europe the market is not easy, but is not bad at all. Also, in
> > Italy, there is really a small number of high qualified professionals on
> > software engineering and development.
> >
> > Don't know...
> >
> > I've been outside Brazil from so many time, passing by many places such
as
> > Canada, Israel, US and Germany, and now Italy that I don't even feel
like
> a
> > Brazilian any more...
> >
> > I'm sure I don't want to stay at Italy too long... Maybe move to UK or
> > Australia to see some different cultures and after that I decide about
> where
> > to go... :-)
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> > Paulo
> > MCAD, MCSD .NET
> > "test" <js@tryandspaam.publiceouydl.com> wrote in message
> > news:uBoEMEH#CHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I'm from Brazil too, but live in the U.S. Other than my family, I have
> no

> > > compelling reasons to move back. I do go there every year or so to
visit

> > my
> > > family.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

test

2003-04-04, 1:23 pm

Here in the U.S. the economy is doing very bad. Salaries for IT went down
this year and last year. You can't find a job easily anymore. There are many
qualified people losing their jobs. But if you're an enterpreneur, you can
always look to find an opportunity amidst this crisis. I am happy here and
don't want to move to another country.

But I think you should do just that, try Australia or the UK, experience
these countries, then you can decide where you would like to live.

Season

2003-07-04, 8:48 am

Hi,
I realised that some of you getting into the trap of
OxygenOnline.co.uk.
I was one of their victims. Their site looks promising BUT after you pay
the bond money you will hardly hear anything from them. If you try to
call them they will say that market is down, we are circulating your
resume etc...
I paid the bond money “1 and ½” year ago. I am an MCSD I
haven't received a single Interview from them. I tried to
contact them recently They told me that the scheme I joined ( I
joined for 250 pounds. Now they are charging 345 punds) is now
ceased. They are not even ready to talk me over the phone.
From the other Internet postings I realised that I am not the
only victim of them, there lots of people like me. So don't pay
your hard earned money to some CRIMINALS
Local market in UK is very bad at the moment; you might have
heard that Govt. declared that there is no skill shortage in
UK. So it is difficult for companies to hire a person who
require workpermit.

Regards,
Season

Originally posted by Paulo Reichert
> I can't tell you for sure, but I have some ideas about the market:
>
> When I went in other countries (all except Italy) I was going just for
> stages and courses. Then I received an offer from a company here
> in Italy
> and decided to come here, so, I arrived here with the job
> secured. After
> some time I decided to change job, so, while working for my old
> company I
> started searching for a new one. After two weeks I found a cool job
> and
> there is where I am today.
>
> Now I decided that I want to move to an English speaking
> country and I'm
> trying to figure out how is the market both on Australia and UK
> and I can
> say that there is a lot of interest for qualified people, but they
> whant you
> to move there prior to give you a job.
>
> It means that you have to find a work permit and money enough to
> go there,
> rent an appartment and live for the time where you will be
> searching a job.
> The work permit is not always difficult. Australia has an
> imigration program
> for skilled professionals, where they evaluate your capacities
> and market
> needs and if you have points enough they give you the visa. UK instead
> doesn't have a similar program (as I know), but they give you
> work permits
> if you have or a sponsor there or a company that can provide you work
> documentation.
>
> If you have some money to expend, you can try to take a look at the
> services
> provided by Oxygen (www.oxygenonline.co.uk). They have a sponsor and
> jobseeking program that looks pretty good.
>
> You have a third option: If you are descendant of a European
> person you can
> get double citzenship. My father is German, and so, I have German
> citzenship
> and I can live in any EU country without special visas or permits.
>
> Help it clearify a bit your ideas.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Paulo
> MCAD, MCSD .NET
> "Guilherme Magalhães" wrote in message
> news:OONpZti#CHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl"]news:OONpZti#CHA.21-
> 04@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl[/url]...
> > Paulo,
> > I hope that someday I'll do what you doing. I'm planning to
> go to
> > Australia or New Zealand, but I'm afraid of living away from my
> relatives
> > and parents, don't find a cool job or have problems with my
> English. I
> know
> > that I can do absolutely anything very well in software
> development, but I
> > don't know how the market is abroad...
> > Can someone like me get easily a job abroad, in a country
> like
> > Australia, New Zealand or in the UK?
> > --
> > Guilherme Magalhães - guilherme@iwire.com.br
> > MCP(Win2k) - MCSD(C++) - MCAD(C#)
> > "Paulo Reichert" wrote in message
> > news:uuRjM5d#CHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl"]news:uuRjM5d#-
> CHA.1776@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl[/url]...
> > > I'm in the same situation. I have no compelling reasons to go
> back to

> > > Brazil, except by my closest friends and family...
> > >
> > > Here at Europe the market is not easy, but is not bad at all.
> Also, in

> > > Italy, there is really a small number of high qualified
> professionals on

> > > software engineering and development.
> > >
> > > Don't know...
> > >
> > > I've been outside Brazil from so many time, passing by many
> places such
> as

> > > Canada, Israel, US and Germany, and now Italy that I don't
> even feel
> like
> > a
> > > Brazilian any more...
> > >
> > > I'm sure I don't want to stay at Italy too long... Maybe move
> to UK or

> > > Australia to see some different cultures and after that I
> decide about
> > where
> > > to go... :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Paulo
> > > MCAD, MCSD .NET
> > > "test" wrote in message
> > > news:uBoEMEH#CHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl"]news:uBoEME-
> H#CHA.1156@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl[/url]...
> > > > I'm from Brazil too, but live in the U.S. Other than my
> family, I have
> > no
> > > > compelling reasons to move back. I do go there every year or
> so to
> visit
> > > my
> > > > family.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >

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